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Random spam message from someone on RM who isn't my type. Even if he was, I still wouldn't. Sounds a little too needy.

"Dear Friend,

I offering my services completely free if you invite me to Los Angeles for you.

I am a discreet, trustworthy, intelligent man who are honest and believes in respect and honor and wants to visit you in - America or travel with you anywhere in the world to pamper and fulfill your most secret and all your desires and fantasies.

I also interested travel companion and Sugar Daddy's.

I'm not asking any money because of the travel costs, accommodation and catering and I can't pay for them but I can guarantee you won't regret it.

Thank you for reading me

If you are interested in my offer then I will wait for your reply.

My contact details:"

I have found this happening more and more over the past year. Latest one was last week (DominusIII) who was visiting from NYC. Made an appointment, confirmed an hour before, and he said he was having hotel issues. Not sure why he wouldn't reach out to me to say he was no longer available.

I guess that’s the thing: just saying something came up and they are no longer available... and that holds for clients, too. It just seems like good form to say “Hey, I need to reschedule.”

Btw I'm surprised this never happened to you before on Grindr. I know for a fact no shows happen with hookups too, folks don't have the courtesy to text and come up with a silly excuse like "my roommate lost his key".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

Ha. That’s the crazy part. It wasn’t Grindr. I have a few words on my Rent Men profile. I’ve met some great pros because of that and avoided a few who agreed we weren’t an actual match.

First time it happened. So strange. He reached out to me based on my profile, we picked a time, he said he was on his way... and then nothing. No arrival. No message. I texted a few times. No response.

I expect that from non-pros. One of the reasons I use a pro is to avoid that. Yet, boom, same shit. Is it really too much to say "Something has come up and we need to reschedule?"

Minor venting. I'm an adult. It's a minor bit of silliness. Over the years, this has happened with tricks and dates.... just never with a pro.

Thanks for letting me vent.

If he's suggesting you meet him at the Los Angeles Backpackers Hotel by LAX, then he's a variation of this scammer. Did the same kind of trick.

https://rent.men/Bejons

Yeah. I've met new guys before. It's been fun. And I've had people with reviews turn out to be bad dates -- like the fell asleep in the bed within a moment of laying down -- but this was the first time I encountered a completely different person.

Classic bait and switch, with the guy in the picture not the guy you meet -- and the demand for money made up front.

First time it's happened to me. Now I know how the scammy thing works.

https://rent.men/Bejons

Big bearish guy. Client. I created a profile on RM to precisely spell out my interests, kinks, and looks. If I was going to meet up with someone, I didn't want them to do it "just for the money" or to reject me once they came to the door. I think it's helped. It makes sure that everything is on the up and up, on both sides.

I pretty much always pay by Venmo. It's easier. It's safer. It allows me to have a spur of the moment longer session, too.

As a client, does it help you to have a profile of my own on a site? I do on Rent Men, explaining generally what I'm looking for, into, and with a headless public and regular private pic of me. I assumed it would make things easier on the escort, but I'd love some first hand views.

Denial of what specifically ? I am working with facts....you all have your head in the sand trying to defend your desire to have bareback sex with a lot of strangers.

You are citing one study. I'm citing the literature. It's inconclusive if PrEP drives up STI rates. Modeling over the long term shows that even with RC -- risk compensation -- greater PrEP use and STI / Testing and treatment will reduce not only STIs in PrEP users but in the larger community as a whole. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Incidence of Gonorrhea and Chlamydia Following Human Immunodeficiency Virus Preexposure Prophylaxis Among Men Who Have Sex With Men: A Modeling Study.

Abstract

BACKGROUND:

Preexposure prophylaxis (PrEP) is highly effective for preventing human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, but risk compensation (RC) in men who have sex with men (MSM) raises concerns about increased sexually transmitted infections (STIs). The Center for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC's) PrEP guidelines recommend biannual STI screening, which may reduce incidence by treating STIs that would otherwise remain undiagnosed. We investigated these two counteracting phenomena.

METHODS:

With a network-based mathematical model of HIV, Neisseria gonorrhoeae (NG), and Chlamydia trachomatis (CT) transmission dynamics among MSM in the United States, we simulated PrEP uptake following the prescription indications and HIV/STI screening recommendations in the CDC guidelines. Scenarios varied PrEP coverage (the proportion of MSM indicated for PrEP who received it), RC (a reduction in the per-act probability of condom use), and the STI screening interval.

RESULTS:

In our reference scenario (40% coverage, 40% RC), 42% of NG and 40% of CT infections would be averted over the next decade. A doubling of RC would still result in net STI prevention relative to no PrEP. STIs declined because PrEP-related STI screening resulted in a 17% and 16% absolute increase in the treatment of asymptomatic and rectal STIs, respectively. Screening and timely treatment at quarterly vs biannual intervals would reduce STI incidence an additional 50%.

CONCLUSIONS:

Implementation of the CDC PrEP guidelines while scaling up PrEP coverage could result in a significant decline in STI incidence among MSM. Our study highlights the design of PrEP not only as antiretroviral medication but as combination HIV/STI prevention incorporating STI screening.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28505240

If they don't reply, I imagine they aren't interested in a respondent as a client?

A California report finds the number of cases of sexually transmitted diseases in the state reached a record high in 2017.

For MSM, the rise is in syphilis and gonorrhea cases. For straight people, the rise is in chlamydia and syph.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/STDs-CA-2017Snapshot.pdf

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/Syph-Gonorrhea-MSM-2017Snapshot.pdf

Denial seems to be the favorite cure on this thread. A fine example of why so many gay men are prone to substance abuse. Run away and don't face facts. Deny their existence and go have fun...(until you're laying in a hospital bed riddled with disease and addicted to meth.)

The only denial on display here is yours.

Those are interesting selections. The VIP twins would be hotter without the ink, but they might be fun. The hunt continues...

If you want an "uncommon reality" for brothers, this combo is something I could heartily recommend when you come to Vegas:

https://rent.men/CarlPornStar

https://rent.men/peterhung

 

I am pretty sure you could make it happen for $1k! We are in!

Not quuuuuuuiiiiiiittttttttteeeeee what I had in mind. lol

As you no doubt discern from my replies in this thread, I agree that we must balance for ourselves the risks presented by having unprotected sex. This includes having unprotected sex while on PrEP. These risks include the possibilities of contacting HIV (much reduced as far as studies have shown so far) by PrEP and the always existent possibilities of contacting various STIs. Scientific studies have also more recently discussed the fact that there are fewer and fewer antibiotics that will be able to be used to treat various bacterial infections. That of course has to be added to the mix.

I'd have to note that PrEP works better than condoms do for preventing HIV infection and the STI testing regime is the best thing going right now for identifying infections, no matter how they were picked up.

I'm a strong advocate for the medicalization of STIs, not the moralization. I'd love to see the majority of sexually active MSM in any community regularly tested for STIs. That would be the single best thing for reducing to near eliminating the amount of infectious bacteria circulating in any community. It's also the way of tracking and curtailing the progress of even difficult to cure versions of gonorrhea in the wild.

In much the same that I find society backasswards when it comes to escorts and escorting, the same holds for the education and treatment of STIs of any stripe.

Agreed. But let's make clear that is mostly not mean intentioned people, their attitude does not come out out of hatred but out of fear. The epidemic was terrifying and has left us deeply branded.

I somewhat agree with that. There is a great deal of fear around STIs and that's mostly do to equating every STI with the deadliness of HIV. Still, there's another level of moral hypocrisy at work. I've only met a very few people screaming about STIs who use condoms for oral, gloves for hand jobs, and dental-dams for kissing or licking ass. It just strikes me it's about feeling superior, not actively promoting risk reduction.

Shhhh, he can only READ what matches his long lasting prejudices.

It's people with attitudes like his that keep HIV stigma and infection rates high and STI testing and treatment rates low.

I love how the PreP fans consistently ignore data and focus solely on HIV infection rates. Bottom line....traditional STI infection rate increase parallels the, growth in use of PreP at similar rates and similar dates... An elementary school education allows you to see the correlation. So those who deny it have their head DEEP in the sands of barebacking addiction.

Again, you are wrong. STI rates rose before PrEP was introduced. It doesn't track with the introduction of PrEP. There are not enough PrEP users here or abroad to push the rates statistically higher.

Note, one study did show an increase over baseline. Others showed no change, mixed, rises, and reduction. Off the top of my head, there's five studies that have looked at this. All have returned different results.

Still, as PrEP users are tested more often than most MSM, regardless of increase or decrease in infections in that particular population over baseline, treatment removes forward infection vectors. Jenness's paper noted that even with RC, this treatment will lower overall STI rates -- provided enough people are on PrEP. Enough people aren't on PrEP.

So you don't know what you are talking about. You are just looking to shame. On a board about escorting, as either a companion or consumer, you have no grounds to pass yourself off as "superior."

Bottom line: It's well documented that the increase of traditional Sexually Transmitted diseases runs directly parallel to the introduction of PreP in the gay community.

Only people who deny this are: The Drug company who MAKES Truvada, and people who really really want to defend their right to bareback with a lot of strangers.

Nah, it doesn't. The rise in STI rates happened before PrEP. And there aren't enough people on PrEP in North America or Europe to further drive them. And while there data on an increase in risk compensation, the data also shows that the more people on PrEP and tested and treated for STIs, the greater the reduction in overall STI rates will be, PrEP population or not, risk compensation or not.

PrEP and TasP have been instrumental in reducing new HIV infections. We've seen drops in the past two years. That hasn't happened in decades.

After 30 years of fear mongering and shaming, I'd like to think people would realize that moralizing over people having sex without condoms doesn't do much to prevent HIV infections or to reduce STI rates -- testing and treatment do. This is a medical issue, not a moral one.

One of my ongoing fantasies / bucket lists is the classic being used by twins or brothers. I know I'm not alone in this fantasy; I've had a tiny handful of friends who've experienced some variation of it.

That said, how likely is it to find escorts who do this? Over the years, I've posted in personal ads sections and pursued escort pages. I've maybe seen one such example over the years, but of course, they both weren't my type and were on the other side of the planet.

Given the realities of escorting, people, and attractions, I'm assuming this is just one of those rare, random situations that's difficult to find, let alone take advantage of?