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Well I need to start listing as Latin then for real lol...

Thats why I like the newly introduced versatile top/versatile bottom title rather than straight versatile title. Versatile is kind of ambiguous, and as you said; people have met versatiles who then they end up being only bottom. And vice versa. So the versatile top/bottom tends to give a little more idea of what is preferred. Now, there's claims out there of people not being able to get into a top who ever confesses being versatile, because they like the fantasy of a straight man fucking them who's never been fucked. Some guys have a preoccupation with the straight or straight appearing dick. Bottom/gay dick is the same as Top/straight dick. It doesn't look, taste or feel any different (depending on where it's been but that's a whole other topic). And whether or not a top chooses to get fucked once in awhile, is irrelevant. Now the only exception to that is if the situation is happening in real time. I personally don't like "flip fucking". Or if we do flip, it won't be back and forth. Once I set my mind on topping or vice versa, I'm staying there for the duration of the scene.

Well note to self then...I consider myself Top/Vers. I like when the resistant straight guys with kids who've never tried it, suddenly get all into, having someone inside them. I'm like damn, there really is a such thing as bi sexual. One thing I can't do is do repeated bottoming sessions. A person's cherry needs time to heal. I can take 1 or 2 cherry poppings over a course of a day or 2. But after that I'm out of commission for the rest of the week. As a follow up, last encounter was with a hot Latin bottom and OH my GWOD. No penetration took place, but I needed a couple days to recoupe from that. Guess that's the downside to being a top, you could cause nutrient deficiencies if you do it too often and don't water/vitamin up.

Lol, good question. I was trying to avoid going into it...but that would probably leave too much to wonder about. But I also don't want to sound like a size queen or overly analytical about every dick I ever come across, as that's also annoying (about as annoying as the guys who constantly brings up/brags/fantasizes about big dicks 24/7, 365, which now that I think of it, is probably why most my best gay friends were mostly Tops) It's hard to explain. It's not necessarily about size. A 10" long can slide in better than a 5" thick. I think it's 50% mental, 50% physical. The body type has to be preferable. Though there's no particular type one way or the other. However, I met a guy my age last year who was my type. Initially we talked about me topping him. After I tossed the salad, he wanted to do me. At that point I was so into it, and him and his package were the perfect package. But it had a right curve to it that just felt not comfortable at all. So it just wasn't going in. I've had curved up and down ones..but something about that right hook almost knocked me out. Plus it was a free date, I was getting paid any money to take all that anyway.

This isn't meant to be a competition or to put one down over the other. But I just realized, there actually may be one who "does it" more for one than the other. This could also be a non-brainer for non-versatiles to answer. The reason it isn't a competition is because, I'm not actually asking who does it better. I'm actually asking, who does it better for you. I have two answers: I think bottoms are the better lay. Won't list all the reasons, but for me I get the majority of my satisfactions from them. I'm so into bottoms, pun intended. However, I've occasionally hooked up with a "top" unknowingly (sometimes in person you can't tell who's who, unlike with online where it's stated). And usually, contrary to belief, hooking up with another top doesn't mean a top is going to get penetrated. I think this is why many tops also experiment being a bottom. Something about the way a top can make you feel can just make you want it. But conditionally, it has to be the right top for me. That's why I generally don't advertise as being fully versatile, because I wouldn't be able to guarantee I can bottom for any and everybody. I think all in all, bottoms give the best overall lay, but I get the most turned on from another top.

I know someone here claimed to do the opposite of everything I say, but if I'm still alive and well almost 10 years in the game, I think I have a little bit of street smarts and common sense. Just a little bit. Probably more than the MoFo who said it. I've always had a belief in: I'd rather be (insert minor/major inconvenience) than dead or in jail. The recent passing of an old friend reminds me even more. Its not worth killing or crashing or going to jail over a temporary inconvenience. I also believe in doing unto others as...etc, etc. Now, there's a story in which a person tried to do that to me years ago when I was kinda young. Tried to kick me out without paying. Too bad he didn't realize his Benzo keys were still in my pocket. After all, he wanted me to Chauffeur him to the ATM because he was too inebriated to do so on his own. Don't get it wrong, I've had guys give me their car keys and they weren't inebriated. But, I wasn't gonna steal his car...again, referring to the above paragraph. Though I'm sure he had a hard time finding it again. The best measure is prevention. It's been a long, long time since someone has pulled that one...as in the 100% not wanting to pay. Now, I don't know if you're referring to being at your place or the client's place. That makes a difference. If it's your place, options are limited. I can't say what I'd do in every situation, but if you're at their place and they try not to pay a large sum...dial 911. Because you just got robbed. As long as you didn't hit or assault anyone, the first person to dial 911 is the side the police is going to take first. The police don't care if you're an escort, because since you dialed 911, you're now the victim. That's how it works. Don't say anything about the guy didn't pay you, only mention $200/$300 etc, etc. cash is missing/stolen while you were in the clients residence, and you need help finding it. You may not get the money (unless he actually has it, and police can be good at compelling people to do the right thing) but he'll think twice before he tries it again. **Disclaimer** I would highly advise against the above if an escort is originally trying to scam the client in any way...such as not providing service, extreme unknown up charges, etc. You are more likely to lose the initial case with the officers. And that measure should never need to be deployed more than once or twice in a 5-10 year career span! And be careful, unscrupulous men will try to pull the "I'm calling the police" tactic too. They may even try to do it first, thus making them the victim. In that case, it's important to maintain you were invited to the home by the client...

I didn't intend for it to be negative. It was funny to me. I had a good, long laugh about it. You made it negative, in your own mind in which you construed it, thus...the negativity belongs to you. Only you, the whole you, and nothing but you.

Exactly. Thankyou for rephrasing that. It's not my negativity. It's the forum's negativity and over insensitivity. Again, if I do leave it'll be because I'm tired of defending myself everytime someone has a quibble about something I have to say. I'm turning 30 this year, I'm getting too old for this shit. And y'all old farts are too old for that shit. Here I am offering the O.P. an mutual experience and how to deal and remedy it (minus the busted Windows part, which if we all be real...gays can be pretty vindictive. I've heard of worse things but I always try to take the high road and live and let live and also have improved greatly on not allowing myself to fall prey to such situations), and now this whole thread has turned into a bitch hunt about me being the center of the issue. I could have just continued on with my vacation instead of offering my assistance.

That's a personal issue, specifically yours. You aren't disliking my negativity, you're disliking the fact that I call out on the negativity. You don't know me at all to even address me. The whole nucleus and core of this thread is negative and wasn't created by me. But bet your ass if it was, y'all hoes would have some ish to say. Everything isn't la la land and made for Oscar's moment. What I'm tired of is you and everybody else's unrelenting labeling of me. Fix that first. Don't try to fix me. Get the dick out your eye before calling out the speck in mine.

Itch please. No one is running me off anywhere. If i do decide to depart it'll be a personal decision out of my own accord. Why can't you just stick to the topic, instead of all over my balls like Oliver "all over ball" Saks? And for those "liking" such posts, grow a pair and stop playing cheerleader with your lil pom pom. If you have nothing to say, keep it moving.

Whats obvious is you wasting your time addressing me. With a question mark for an avatar, I wont waste mine addressing you. So go on and keep looking around, but not for trouble because you don't want it here with me. Actually that WAS meant to be construed as such.

-1= Zero. I have to add also that Ooollliver BALLsacks (hey, I just made a good catch phrase for him if he chooses to use it) comparison of a survivor of sexual assault/violent crime is kinda condescending as well. People always want to throw in a big fish in a little pond, to make it look like there's more water than there actually is, once said big fish is being looked at in hindsight. Bullcrap. Or bullCarp since we're talking about fish. Why he feels like a rape or assault victim would be pompously offended is beyond me. Everyone has their different views and opinions. I've been in all sorts of situations, but if someone is getting fucked in every which way from Sunday (not to say that's what happened with the O.P.) with the expectation of an agreed amount and doesn't receive it, that's at the very least a ripoff. If Comcast, Verizon, or any other business swiped $60 off a customer for no reason....They'd be running to post their first review on Consumer Affairs with something along the lines of, "RAPED". And I doubt it involved a role play scene of the Big Black cable man coming into the unlocked door of the little white twinky dad. And that same customer who hired the OP probably uses one of those companies or their competitor.

And also I'm not Buddhist, but if you wanna get religious, I can post quotes and verses all night: http://www.warrencampdesign.com/heartyBoys/corinthians/letter1a/images/1Corinthians.7.23_lg.jpg

What are you talking about? Where does this holding onto anger piece come in at? Did I say anything about holding onto anger? You not talking to me. I'm just going to hope you're not talking about me. Because I'm very happy, my health shows it, it's in my mind body and soul. I'm living well honey. All I'm saying is we as escorts (or if nobody else, just me) don't have to sit back and just take everything that comes at us. There's remedies out there. No, it doesn't need to be violent or illegal or involve getting oneself into trouble. But, it doesn't need to involve being complacent and not standing up when it comes down to it. The only one who is jaded angry and bitter is you against me. Do you think I'm worried about how you feel about me? Hell no. So keep your narrow minded, insecure, misrepresented, misinformed, misconstrued, closed minded, passive aggressive comments to yourself. Don't dare throw dirt on my name because I'll do the opposite of THAT. Matter of fact, do the opposite of all the things you wish you could do to me: pass the cyanide and fuck me...like a boomerang, back at ya!

Yeah depending on the rate, at least he got paid something. Some of these MFers be bold. Its not fun to have to smash out windows. We don't have time to be plotting payback. It's fun to do once or twice, but we're just not in the business for that. I once long ago had an Adam client take up 2 hours of my time, and at the end act completely ignorant that he was supposed to be paying. It seemed like an honest misunderstanding but it was so avoidable on my part that I didn't even have it in me to carry out a detonation on his home that I was in. That was one of the most disgusting lard of crap I've ever come across. I would never ever ever. How he could even think I would want to. Based on the size of his gut in proportion to his thin body, karma was already on it's way. I didn't even need to ask for it. Luckily it was just basic stuff involved so i only felt financially raped, not physically.

Likewise:

Karma is a bitch. Revenge is a mother fucker. @JuniorNYC , this is an unfortunate situation but the solution is straight forward. Contact the client and inform of the loss. $60 thru PayPal or Google wallet or he can end up on www.nationalblacklist.com for all eternity. Fuck all the philosophical bullshit. This is business. Or at the very least...something that shouldn't be allowed to go unspoken. Could have been an innocent mistake or a sinister motive. Not really sure until the situation is remedied. Some of the advice re: paying for your lessons and therefore condoning such a ruthless behavior (even if that wasn't the intent) is a bit shortsighted. It's like the rape/mug victim being told: that's a lesson for not jogging at 5 am. Or wearing short shorts. Or being an escort. After all...had you not been an escort, you'd of never gotten shorted. Is that the lesson needing to be learnt? True...you do pay for lessons in life, but it shouldn't been seen as some sort of tuition because there's no gain for the loss and it's not mutually consensual. You don't have to pay for shit. Teach him a lesson and Make them pay. Don't be afraid of retaliation or looking bad. Stand your ground. Being professional doesn't need to equate to having no backbone. Every since I've started letting clients know I'm not with the bullshit and if they come for me the wrong way...they're going to find out the hard way...the escort life has been much more peaceful. I don't give a chance to short because I'm counting the money every hour, on the hour. And both before and after.

I've absolutely hooked up with other escorts. It's fun but there's also a bond of sorts. One of my exes from years ago didn't tell me he was escorting until well into our relationship. That said though, I don't specifically seek out hooking up with escorts. It's not like I'm going for a notch to say I've hooked up with so and so. I prefer to meet people out and about than another working dude because occasionally you will come across hints of jealously because at the end of the day you're competition. Even you may be jealous, for whatever reason especially if the topic of business comes up, or if right before or after a client call and things end abruptly. That said, with today's hookup apps, anyone can be a ho so hooking up with an escort is only as different as if someone calls themself that, and has an actual exchange of money. People get offended by labels, so society has made it okay to be a ho, without actually being a ho.

I concur...

Lol, I never understood the last one. Flicking someone off looks cute in theory, but never for an ad. Unless it means "I will fuck you" versus simple "fuck you/fuck off". In addition to your above terms, things like alpha seem to be popular terms too. However, some guys take the alpha thing too far. I had a friend overuse the word so much to describe any and every beefy/chubby guy he could find...that I only want to hear the word to be used to describe the actual Alpha and Omega....not used to describe a random guy who goes camping and doesn't wear deodorant.

I like this line from one of my favorite artist's album, under the song "where u at?" "They say you never know what you have until you lose it If you promise your girl something, you better do it You can't tell a woman you love her, are you stupid? Words don't express your love, you got to prove it." So yeah...there's a difference between loving, and being IN love. The latter is the one you'd want to be concerned about. Besides, if a guy is full of shit, they'll just say whatever they feel like in the moment.

Just wondering how many others try to get some idea of who is on the other end before they meet a client. I recently started asking as the text appointments started become more standard, and I got tired of sitting around texting and running off to meet someone not knowing anything about the person. People ask, "are you available?" But, available where? For whom? Who am I meeting? Are you man or woman, legal age?? People seem to be oblivious to the fact that we have no idea who they are, and it's up to me to find out. Most people are okay with it, and sometimes even send a pic. However, I sent the same response today, along with 2 other questions I ask and got a snarky reply back about "if I'm concerned about their looks", to forget it. My reply was that I ask everyone that, but you can call so I atleast have a voice to go by. Example stats would be: 5'11, 170, insert race (which I don't exclude any, but still helps), and age...followed by what the person is interested in. The most important thing here, is its not about looks or being picky. But just like lawyers, personal trainers and apartment rental agents do brief consultations, so can escorts. It's just that our consultations involve physical attributes. I think we all have a right to know who we're meeting.

I don't really see it as a dilemma. I am uncut and condoms don't at all take away the abililty to cum. My only issue with cum up the bum, is the way the condom looks when it's full, and wondering what it might have looked like otherwise. I think that theory would probably be very relative. After 6 years, I can still get off in 30 seconds, or 30 minutes. However, certain drugs, supplements and medications can cause someone to take longer to cum. I assume the OP isn't referring to this, but I've noticed the actual act of C.I.A. seems to becoming quite common in certain scenarios. But, as I've said above...there's people like me who can still employ CIA tactics with a condom. Don't feel you have to risk rectal G.I. just to enjoy it, as I'm pretty sure guys will pull the "I can only cum when I fuck bare" card. And if you're not careful, other tops can pick that up before you may have the chance to realize it.

The roid tummy sounds familiar, but also outside of that it could have to do with the way the spine is curved. Some spines curve inward pushing the organs against the tummy. Others are more straight, and others curve outward, giving that slouched look...but a flatter abs.

Nope, but my nipples are like this: http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/xl/push-button-outdoor-faucet-adapters-xl.jpg