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Situations for tipping: 
1. Your provider accommodates your irregular requests.
-  ...
2. You are high maintenance. 
- If you need to be strangled and spat on to cum, you should probably be tipping
3. You have a reason to apologize.
- If you've made same day cancellations, untimely reschedules or arrive late 
 
A good 2/3rds of my clients tip. Most 10-20 bucks.  I think it's because it's become national habit and because my rates are very reasonable.
An interesting amount pay the standard rate online and tip higher than the nude rate in person. I also get newer clients who tend to be wide-eyed after a session and like to empty their wallets ... 🤷🏾‍♂️ 
Under regular circumstances you should never feel obligated to provide a tip and you SHOULD NOT tip if it lowers the frequency for which you can get a massage.
Please read that again, because if you're calculating the tip to meet budget costs it's counterproductive. 
 
Tipping is also useful for making a lasting impression on your provider. But only outrageously high ones, so this should never be used as a tactic ... unless you're attempting to hire someone for a Diddy party in the future and want them open to it 

Thanks for letting us know for it turned out. I think it was definitely an intriguing prospect with both high risk and high potential

I typed a review with my experience here on this thread. I tried editing it multiple times to remove any offending wordage and eventually had to scrap it all.

I finish my massages with a hug and it is the one thing he needs to keep going. When his marriage turns sour, when a parent passes, and when he loses his job or his children lash out, he comes. He comes other times as well, but always when he's at his lowest. I give him a hug and sometimes he cries, sometimes uncontrollably. He says that he tries so hard and I say nothing back. I hold onto him as long as he needs someone to hold on to and when the tears have stopped, I let him go. I wipe him down with warm towels, he thanks me and he goes his way. 
The first time he said "I love you" I said "you're welcome". He wanted to express his thanks using stronger words and I gave my response to his gratitude. 
He says I love you every time afterwards and he's been saying it for for years. Recently he moved to a different coast. He has a fulfilling new position and a new house in suburbs of an exciting new city. He also has a great relationship with his children.
Whenever he visits, he comes and he's full of smiles but even still he sometimes cries, and sometimes uncontrollably. And he says I love you.
It's still just a thank you 
(Yes, this is a true story)

I typed a review with my experience here on this thread. I tried editing it multiple times to remove any offending wordage and eventually had to scrap it all.

If you have escorted before you probably know most of this stuff:
 
Guys who make that sort of money work their tails off. Lots of things that successful guys have to do on a regular basis may seem mundane, tedious, and unnecessary to the provider. These things often do not immediately pay off, and they take up a lot of your time. Some of these might be:
1. Polite and timely communication with a client or potential client. Do you respond to texts or emails in a timely manner, and with courtesy and friendliness, regardless of how the client may be communicating with you?
2. Being the highest priced guy in your market. Every time I see an ad with the phrase (and similar) "Upscale clients only," it makes me cringe.
3. Advertise. A lot. Get your name, FACE, and best characteristics on as many platforms you can find.
3.  Get used to the fact that you are going to be criticized; often times unjustly. You are providing a fantasy experience. No matter how hard you try, there will be some who will take potshots against you because the experience did not meet the clients expectation of the fantasy. 
4.  Clients will cancel on you. A lot. Clients will schedule a time and then back out. There are a hundred reasons why a client might cancel. Ran out of money; got too nervous to go through with the appointment; something came up; client decided he really wasn't up for a session at the last minute. And on and  on.
Much of this you probably already know. In answer to your actual question, "what might a reasonably successful independent provider realistically expect to net per year in the current environment? If you work all the time and dedicate yourself to (within reason) the old saying "The customer is always right," an income of high five figures or low six figure income is not totally out of the question. Unfortunately:
1.  The economy is a mess right now. Many clients are hiring less frequently  than they used to. Which for many of us creates fewer discretionary dollars.
2.  You are older now than you used to be. Experience is a great thing to have. I bet you're heavenly in bed. But many guys prefer than young dude, who, in my experience, often disappoints in the sack due to the lack of said experience. 
3.  If you will travel for work your expenses wiil eat you alive. Hard to believe how expensive everything is now.
4. Broadly and generally speaking, people are pissed off these days. Lots of reasons why; we all know them. I think it's harder now than it was ten years ago to create the fantasy potential clients are looking for. 
Anyway these are the things which popped into my brain then out onto this page at the beginning of another lovely day in Dallas. I'm sure other clients, wiser and more experienced than am I, can give you better feedback. But the subject was interesting. Thanks for posing the question and Good Luck.

Telegram gives you the option to hide your phone number, so it seems to be one of the safer chat platforms in terms of anonymity.  

I don't believe we should have to tip masseurs or escorts when they are setting their own rate. Tips are for places of business like a massage spa where the service person is only getting a cut of what you pay the spa...then you tip. If someone is working for themselves, they set their own rate. I only tip if our interaction exceeds what is stated in the service description for example, if a masseur says both nude and release, but we end up doing more like oral or fucking, then I will just give him an extra $50 to $100. I've noticed that a lot of asian masseurs when they come to my apartment for massage they ask for tips and I have to explain to them how it works. A lot of them come from working in massage parlors. 

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

Situations for tipping: 
1. Your provider accommodates your irregular requests.
-  ...
2. You are high maintenance. 
- If you need to be strangled and spat on to cum, you should probably be tipping
3. You have a reason to apologize.
- If you've made same day cancellations, untimely reschedules or arrive late 
 
A good 2/3rds of my clients tip. Most 10-20 bucks.  I think it's because it's become national habit and because my rates are very reasonable.
An interesting amount pay the standard rate online and tip higher than the nude rate in person. I also get newer clients who tend to be wide-eyed after a session and like to empty their wallets ... 🤷🏾‍♂️ 
Under regular circumstances you should never feel obligated to provide a tip and you SHOULD NOT tip if it lowers the frequency for which you can get a massage.
Please read that again, because if you're calculating the tip to meet budget costs it's counterproductive. 
 
Tipping is also useful for making a lasting impression on your provider. But only outrageously high ones, so this should never be used as a tactic ... unless you're attempting to hire someone for a Diddy party in the future and want them open to it 

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Thoroughly agree! Michael is a must-try. His style is Thai which few other therapists are able to pull off anywhere near as well.
Top scores for his percussion calf work! 💯

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

I agree. The purpose of a review isn't to complement someone for a good job; it's to give future clients insight on what to expect from a client perspective.

Not cowardly, and exactly the correct and safe and SMARTEST way to extract yourself from this situation. 
 
Two things - #1. Don't hire provide who list that they are involved with PNP. 
and #2 - while it is indeed a sad situation, it is not your problem to fix him, but it is best that you leave a review here to warn others of your experience. It is not unfair to help others not be in this situation as well. 
You yourself may have benefited from others leaving warnings of this kind of danger. Pay it forward. 
And what to do when they show up high? exactly what you did do. The only other thing you can do is make sure it doesn't happen to someone else.
Wait a few weeks if you don't want to leave a review that he can trace back to you. 

That’s not quite true though is it. The guys requiring a face pic are choosing you. These guys aren’t really escorts; they’re guys who have discovered they can monetise their sex life. Is that going to be a fun session? 

I haven't experienced this yet. Is this more towards Deli than Masseurs? I agree with what you said about us not even thinking about how we look if we're looking towards hiring them. That's kind of the whole point of the experience.

Inspired by @7829V 's reporting, I thought I would share my experience at Mr. TJ's Only Boys Spa in Zona Centro yesterday; it was a delightful way to spend a part of the day.
I took the San Diego Trolley to the end of the line at San Ysidro, walked across the border and took an Uber to the Zona Centro location.  I had made an appointment for 11 AM, but arrived maybe 25 minutes earlier than that; the entry was was shuttered but in several minutes a young man arrived to open the spa for the day.  When he had done so, I told him I had requested a Turkish bath and a 60-minute massage; I'm not certain if he was aware of that, but it was fine with him, and I paid 2,000 pesos ($113) with my credit card.
The young man, Yahir, guided me to the massage room to change for the Turkish bath; he gave me a towel to wrap around my waist and a pair of sandals; that bath itself was luxurious; water, soap, scrubbing, repeat.  After a shower, we went back to the massage room; where Yahir, now nude, gave me what I thought was a good therapeutic massage with wonderful erotic touches (I couldn't help but grin at the time and I am grinning now as I write this!).  The session did turn into a deli experience; Yahir was so sweet that I wanted to adopt him and bring him home!  I had planned on tipping him $40, but I was so happy with the session that I gave him $60; he gave me a big smile.
Yahir, who I later learned was 25, had better skills in English than I had in Spanish, but that did not detract from my session in the least.
After lunch at Caesar's Restaurante on Av. Revolucion, I walked around a bit with my camera and, since I was dreading Friday afternoon lines going back to San Diego, I walked back to the port of entry, paid $20 for a bus to take me across the border, went through customs and took the trolley back to San Diego.
Yahir and I were alone the whole time, and that was fine; the place, as indicated above, is not fancy, but it is clean and I felt comfortable the whole time.
I'd encourage those of you who are interested in an adventure to consider this if you are visiting San Diego.  (I am still grinning!)

That's beautiful.

I’ve mentioned somewhere before: if the person is contacting you for the service, it’s probably suspect. Not always, especially if you looked at them first. However if you didn’t look at them and they hit you up, it’s a bit SUS. 
It’s not much worse on the escort end than RentMen and RentMasseur which is also home of “can I paint a mural of you/be your sugar daddy allowance” scams we get. 
 
It’s one thing to ask for full advance payment, but a deposit for a nominal amount towards the session is not of the same kind of request.
I will give an example of someone just today, complaining on my phone about my deposit policy which is clearly on my website. I showed him the same thing that I will show here: how he requested a booking, back in December…said he was going to get back and then never replied. Only to hit me up today asking for a same day appointment like…nothing happened (he’s in Grey, I’m in Green):
 

 
So not only was this person not reliable, but the lack of respect of boundaries and dismissive tone: why the fucking hell would I want to meet someone like this? How can he even get an attitude with me, when HE was the one who didn’t follow thru, and then hits me up 2+ months later out the blue, for a SAME DAY BOOKING ON A SUNDAY like nothing happened? These mother fuckers are out of their raggedy ass minds 😆  I would never open my door or get in my car for these non deposit guys. They can go be another escort or masseur’s problem, but I’m not the one ❌
People like that are why I require deposits. $50 for outcall and $100 for me to host. If I have to travel out of city/state or overnight: it’s up to $250 or half the fee. There’s a lot of games on the sites, and it’s not just from other escorts. I’ve been requiring a deposit for years, and I’ve not seen a cause to drop it for any reason. Guys who don’t want to arrange deposits, are not the type of clients I want to see. 
 
Like I said in another thread, my years of experience in the industry is extensive: and anyone saying how other guys don’t ask for deposits, or another guy scammed them: isn't my prerogative. What I do know is, I see no reason to meet an anon stranger off the street who can’t furnish atleast a portion of the season ahead of time.