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Honestly, I’ve learned that Grindr is even more full of scammers. My advice is to stick with RM ( and even there, only interact well reviewed and longer time providers).

His provider page has disappeared and I never messaged him outside of RM lol. I'm interested in hiring him again. I wonder what makes him delete.

Yes lol, I was being euphemistic with the term "legally controversial". Additionally, I am in full agreement with your last sentence.

Awesome. Can you define 100% success rate here? I'm unclear about whether the no-shows are provider no-shows or client no-shows. Do you mean that You 100% of the time successfully meet with providers that you promise you will meet? Thats great for you that you are quite a considerate, punctual, and kind provider! Indeed, I suspect many of us in this thread and forum are similarly noble clients! I doubt that this sort of upstanding 100% rate client is the only (or even modal) type of person that providers encounter on the scammer/timewaster-filled website that is rent.men.

Are you suggesting it is me who is trying to frame it as a universal requirement? I actually don’t see anyone in this thread trying to do that. If anything, I'm seeing defenders of occasional deposit use. Even I almost always decline to pay a deposit lol, because the person is maybe too close such that I don't think its needed, or they don't have enough good reviews on RM/CoM, or there are definitevly negative reviews about them. I actually decline to pay a deposit 85% of the time that I am asked to pay one 🤣. I think that there are circumstances though, where I find it acceptable to pay a deposit. I am just in disagreement with one or more people who advocate for an absolute end to all deposits. Additionally, I do find it incredible that someone has never been asked for a deposit, because I assume many people have made dozens of different inquiries with distinct providers and that it is likely that one would encounter at least one provider who would ask for a deposit.

It’s just something to be lightly considered. I’m saying that it’s best to not suggest any form of payment on a public profile at all, given that “s*x for MonAy” can be legally controversial in the US

Incredible that you’ve never been asked for a deposit. If you have a profile somewhere, I’d take out the “I pay cash” part, just to avoid any legal attention. If you have found a way to repel providers who would ask for a deposit, that’s a strategy that can indeed save you from an uncomfortable situation/ a wasted conversation.

They indeed probably have vanished for you, alongside some actual meetings. An hour is one example. I think a trip that lasts even 30 minutes is considerably long too, and factoring the trip back home, becomes an hour. I don’t think someone having a FaceTime with a provider to “show they are real” necessarily means that they can’t still flake/cancel/block while the provider is already well on the way. A world without at least some clients paying deposits is impossible, just as a world where all providers can successfully request a deposit is impossible. Both sides have uncertainties to cover.

Some of us indeed do make the grand leap of faith of flying people out. I don’t do that without a ton of judgement, vetting, inquiries, and review of comments on CoM and RM, but it usually leads to a spectacular evening/weekend for me. Say what you will about deposit scammers that personally victimized you , but point (1) here by @PhileasFogg is indispensable: providers encounter time wasters, flakers who make them take 3 hour trips for nothing, scammers, etc as well. Some clients may hope that deposits will vanish as a policy, but that is just unrealistic given the bullshit that providers face as well.

I have tried Seeking before, and it seems many supposed providers on there are scammers. I've had some success with Hunqz before, but honestly, RM seems like it has been my best bet for finding a good crop of providers.

This guy is hot indeed. The blend of beautiful in aesthetics + kinky in behavior is very alluring to many of us clients.

I’ve flown him out several times. That is- prepaid him money for his flight costs to NYC when he used to live in SF. Perhaps the ultimate deposit leap of faith. He is absolutely trustworthy, and an amazing sex partner. I also regularly uber him to me now that he lives in Manhattan. He doesn’t request deposits given that we are somewhat nearby.

Might also be a marketing thing- the allure of potentially finding and fucking a pornstar one adores is what drew me to the site in the first place

Agreed- definitely about security reasons.

I never share details unless I’m hosting. I use a fake first name, and I also use a second phone for hires. I’ve gotten close with one or two guys in Miami and NYC, and they know my first name. You don’t want to give a provider any sense that they can try to blackmail you with something. Especially not a provider you’ve just met and who doesn’t have excellent reviews.

Just as a recommendation, I don’t think such proximate address info (even street number) should be posted. General area within a borough might be more acceptable, unless he himself publicizes the actual street he is on.

Honestly, I shouldn’t say this but I discriminate a little against profiles that are overly performing a taste for luxury or a luxurious aura. The name Xclusiveboy counts as something like that lol.

lol. $150 guys? 😂. Not that I’m doubting they exist, that just seems wild.

Yup. I think the most common rate spat out at me is $400 now. Of course, I’m looking at well-regarded, well endowed, and high quality guys, so that may play a role in my estimate of the market.

Yup, perhaps redacting names is a less permanently-punishing way for people to share their experiences.

I’ve gotten blocked for looking at a providers pics too much. He later unblocked me and told me to turn off viewing notifications

Yeah, I was looking at many of the suggestions people dropped here and ….. lol. Those would not be my definitions of big and bubbly/round. I suspect @blondeguy is looking for something more like this guy (based in NYC but traveling currently). FirstBestBottom - Male Escort, Gay massage - Washington | Rent.Men RENT.MEN FirstBestBottom Gay Escort in Washington, District of Columbia, available for Gay Escorting,Erotic...

I’m visiting SF for Folsom week and he’s here now. Anyone seen him?

The tops in San Francisco are really worth it though.