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ER12321 reacted to Simon Suraci in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
Ok, I think I understand. You are being proactive by reaching out to clients you see viewing your profile. You are using the profile view alerts as a defacto checklist of people to reach out to. Every one of the people you spend time reaching out to is, in your mind a bit of wasted energy if the client doesn’t respond. You conclude from this one way interaction that the client must not be serious. I encourage you to reevaluate your approach. Let me explain.
I read mixed opinions on Company of Men about providers reaching out “cold” to prospective clients viewing their profiles. Some find the messages annoying, invasive, or unwelcome. Others find it a refreshing way to break the ice. Some are not paying attention to their message inboxes at all. A few people need a little encouragement to warm up to contacting you for real. Maybe they are shy, unsure, or less confident. In these cases it helps. But you never know who is on the other side of the screen, their temperament, or why they are there.
Others are simply window shopping. If every store clerk ran out of their store onto the street saying the customer glancing into their display should buy something, I see how that would be offputting. Not everyone is ready to buy. They are often comparing products and services before they choose to engage. Maybe they don’t have the funds right now, but shopping gives them a thrill, helps them indulge a fantasy without wasting a store clerk’s time. Maybe after the next paycheck, promotion, or period of savings they will gather the money and decide to splurge on you.
Not responding to your message doesn’t mean they are necessarily unserious. It could mean a lot of things like they are not paying attention. Or they hold the view that they are not obligated to respond to every marketing message they receive. A reasonable view, in my opinion. Or they want to hold off engaging until they actually are serious and ready to book an appointment. Lots of people looking at you are not ready to book right then and there.
I get clients who have kept an eye on me for years and only much later reach out saying something to this effect. Had I blocked them, I would certainly miss out on their business. And guess what? These clients are even more engaged and excited to see me when they actually do book. They are really good clients.
I, like you, engage in some proactive client outreach, but I am a bit more strategic about it. Instead of messaging every client that clicks on my profile, I make selections regarding who I want to spend time reaching out to. For me, I’ve found that it helps to engage with clients on something personal to them. For example, a client listing a specific kink or fantasy or type of guy or scene he is into, I will point this out saying how I would be a good match for xyz. Or that I would enjoy seeing them for some abc reason that genuinely resonates with me. These are the types of messages clients like to respond to. They feel seen, heard, and that you really care. And hopefully you do really care.
Most clients don’t fill out their profile information. So I skim over the vast majority of alerts because I can’t really personalize my message to these people. It would land as well as a cold fish to their face. And yet some of them are so polite and considerate that they respond anyway, because they feel obligated, even though they are not ready to book, or only have a slight interest. Then we both feel obliged to keep messaging out of politeness when it’s really a waste of time for both client and provider. Some clients skip this hassle altogether by choosing to not respond. I can’t blame them.
I might send more of these proactive messages when I am traveling and see interest from those places I am going. Maybe not every person that views my profile, but more particularly those I notice are repeatedly viewing my profile. It’s a hint that they are considering more seriously whether they want to hire me. Not always, but usually. I might mention I will be in their city during certain dates, thank them for checking me out, and mention I am happy to answer any questions.
Many of them never respond, and it doesn’t bother me. Some do respond, however, and it helps break the ice. A few of those people do eventually book. My reason for outreach in this case is to call attention to the limited window for them to book me while I am in their city. That is a good reason to reach out, however impersonal it may be.
My point is to be more selective about who you reach out to and why. It will cost you less time and energy narrowing down your list and not feeling the need to compose a message to every profile viewer. Spending less of your energy leads to less resentment, and you have more energy to respond to the “hot” messages you receive, from potentially more serious, ready-to-book-soon clients. The longer you work this business, the easier it is to skim past the alerts and filter them mentally. Some of us turn off the alerts because we don’t want to spend the time or energy sifting through them. I do, but it is work, and not everyone wants to spend the energy.
It’s not a binary. People are complicated. They don’t all fall into strict ‘serious’ and ‘unserious’ client categories. And it doesn’t really benefit you to put them into those categories and then block whoever you assume is unserious based on something as benign as a non-response.
Does any of this make sense?
I hope it helps you. I want my fellow providers to succeed. These are just my opinions and you don’t need to take it as gospel, but it is intended to help guys like you reading this. Clients here have shared a lot of wisdom. I hope you take it to heart, for your own sake, to improve your business.
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ER12321 reacted to Simon Suraci in Blocked on RM but don't really care...
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I’m struggling to understand why providers like @Braziliancutee @Elite_XLand@SecretProvider block prospective clients viewing their profiles.
What about prospective clients viewing your ad is a detriment to you? Is there any benefit to you from blocking? If they never book you, that’s a neutral result. If they don’t respond to an unsolicited outreach message, that’s also a neutral result.
Why would you need to actively go out of your way to block the client profile? What benefit is it to you to do this? What positive result will such an action gain you? You know they can still view your profile when they sign out of that account, right? And when they tick the box saying don’t track my profile views. For every one of them, you may have a dozen actively ticking that box to hide their similar number and frequency of views. Would you block those tick the box people if you could do so?
We don’t always know the connection between the client screen name and the phone number they are texting you from. They may say hi I’m xxx, username: xxxsampleusername on RentMen, but most of the time they don’t.
If that lookie-loo client books you two years later when travels overlap, that’s a win! What’s wrong with viewing evidence that you successfully occupied space rent free for an extended time in potential clients’ minds? That’s actually a sign of good marketing.
I understand if the prospective client were repeatedly texting you but unserious about booking, canceling last minute, no-showing, sexting, being creepy, stalking, or other problematic behavior… THEN you block them… assuming you are correctly connecting the dots between the caller/texter and profile username …but just the client viewing your profile bothers you? Come on. Show us on the doll where the client touched you. Oh wait, you can’t because you didn’t give him the chance to do so in the first place.
We post ads in hopes that prospective clients will view it and consider hiring us. Who is to say what the motivations are of that one client that viewed you a hundred times but never contacts you or responds to your outreach message? We don’t know. Some of them will eventually book. Some of them will only ever have a quiet fantasy wank. Worst case scenario is a neutral result, with the possibility of a positive one at some point. They aren’t demanding or wasting your time. They are merely existing, and happpen to be looking at your ad. That’s neutral to me.
By blocking clients for no apparent reason, you risk damaging your reputation. That client sees you blocked them and wonders why. He may think less of himself, or less of you, or both. He definitely won’t hire you since you’ve made it loud and clear that he is unwelcome. But he may share the negative experience with others at some point. This is a net negative result to you, your reputation, your income. You’re shooting yourself in the foot.
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ER12321 reacted to BananaBagel in Newbie in NYC: Karl_Kelso
Caught up with Karl recently and he’s looking so great. He told me he’s changing up his workouts and looking even better than ever. With the same heart and joy for life. He’s really the best.
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ER12321 got a reaction from r_curious in The Best of 2025?
Mine is definitely
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ER12321 got a reaction from Frog in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 got a reaction from + Pensant in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 got a reaction from Medin in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 reacted to ChiGeoff in NYC: Where are all the 6’2+, hunky, masculine guys?
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ER12321 reacted to mike carey in interesting new ad on RM
Another vote for 'Welcome to the Forum'. Most members here appreciate openness and honesty from escorts who come here, and it can so easily be a corrective to negativity and speculation. It's all the better when that negativity is countered by the sort of calm rebuttal that you offered, rather than anger. Best of luck as you reembark on this journey.
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ER12321 reacted to BaronArtz in interesting new ad on RM
Hi Jon - thank you for posting this and welcome to this message board. I hope this will be a fun and rewarding activity for you. I wish you the best of luck!
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ER12321 reacted to MikeBiDude in interesting new ad on RM
Well his post is 3 hours old, and as a new member his first post(s) had to get approved by a moderator. So just timing.
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ER12321 reacted to Jon_IvyLeague in interesting new ad on RM
Hi all, I'm the provider.
This thread is so full of tall-tales that it's cracking me up! 🤣
I'm vers, maybe even more top. All my clients so far have been bottoms and we've had a lot of fun 😀.
I am financially independent; I'm not coming away from some previous "sugar daddy" arrangement, lol; I wasn't "put out on the curb," by a recent breakup (that suggestion had me floored! 🤣).
I haven't had any "open house" events, for prospective "sugar daddies" (lol🤣) but something like an "open house" for anyone interested in meeting me sounds like a fun idea if enough guys are interested 😃.
I say that I don't want to meet guys who are in exclusive relationships because I would feel like I'm hurting their partner. As an empath, that wouldn't feel right.
My images are up-to-date and from modeling gigs in over the past year. I dabbled in escorting in college years ago but I haven't been active in the industry since then.
I'm doing this, frankly, because I enjoy giving intimacy, and it's fun to earn income from something that I enjoy.
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ER12321 reacted to robberbaron4u in interesting new ad on RM
I am old. In my honesty, I tend to ramble in my conversation. Even the house cat regards me with scorn. Too, I am not given to indulging my critics in their diatribes. My recommendation to you is to forego my posts if you find them tedious in the reading. Succinctly put, shove off, sailor.
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ER12321 reacted to robberbaron4u in interesting new ad on RM
By reputation, he is a sweet, engaging "bottom" recently set out on the curb by his keeper; he is going on forty, and, his shelf life as a young "hot item" having expired, he is exploring sundry venues to the end of finding a mature gentleman of means to take him as an "exclusive", hence his qualification that prospective clients be unattached; his expectations are,I agree, somewhat unrealistic given the nature of the escorting business. That stated, he is on my calendar in the coming winter season.
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ER12321 got a reaction from wearytraveller in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 got a reaction from NJF in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 got a reaction from liubit in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 got a reaction from DMonDude in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 got a reaction from big-n-tall in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 got a reaction from Delter in Rentmen Reviews
I am a premium member of RM, but since the beginning of this year, you cannot, even as a premium member, publish a review unless you register your phone number for verification. As I do not want RM to call me or send SMS to my phone, this is a total showstopper for me. So I think this reduces even further the number of reliable reviews in RM.
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ER12321 reacted to ShortCutie7 in Newbie in NYC: Karl_Kelso
While I do not have access to premium content, I can say with 99% certainty that he would not share face pics. But you can trust us when we’re all saying that (regardless of whatever your personal preference is) he is objectively an incredibly handsome man… my best description would be to imagine if Superman were a catalog model.
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ER12321 reacted to Whippoorwill in Providers: how old is too old to hire?
I’ll be 82 in a couple of months and I’m still raring to go. True, the body parts are wearing out and nothing works quite the way it used to. But, a couple of weeks between orgasms, a couple of viagra, a couple of a hundred dollars, and the right provider do the trick. I have always been a chicken hawk, and today “chicken” for me is definitely someone over 30…or more…someone who has been around the block a couple of times, who understands they are not god’s gift to the world, who are skillful at what they do, who understand that they are in business and each of us have a role in the transaction. My role is to respect them and their work, to be flexible in setting up appointments as with any professional, to be clear on what I am buying, to pay the fee asked, to show up on time clean and prepared, to be complimentary as appropriate, to express gratitude for a service well rendered, to write positive reviews on their ad page and on COM, and to be a loyal repeat client. In the situations where it works best, I have become the old guncle who shares whatever wisdom I have gained in a long life and they share the excitement of youth and change. With the right person that goes beyond sagging tits and a limp dick.
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ER12321 reacted to + FLOutdoors in 411 on MarcusNYC
I have to agree! I saw him yesterday and had an exceptional experience that is worth repeating! Highly recommended!
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ER12321 got a reaction from peter831 in The Best of 2025?
Mine is definitely
https://rent.men/Karl_Kelso
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ER12321 got a reaction from Midtownm4m in The Best of 2025?
Mine is definitely
https://rent.men/Karl_Kelso