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On 11/8/2023 at 10:00 PM, Westsideguy said:

No. It’s not.  The guys from Montreal do that.  We all know the rules.  So, why would they care ? unless they wanted to scam you.  It’s happened to me before. But, it won’t happen again. 

Talking to some of the nicer/honest strippers in Montreal, they had told me that songs in the lap dance area are always longer than the stage songs.  So when a guy sets a timer with three minutes per song, they are actually shorting you by a minute or two per song.  The guys who set a timer (unfortunately, the hotter ones) only get one song from me.  I find it better to have a guy tell me every time a new song begins. 

On 11/26/2023 at 2:46 PM, HuskyC said:

Matty Canada was there wearing a thong. Some of the other guys showed up in thongs and jocks and the underwear stayed on even when they did lap dances. I wanted to see Matty Canada naked, but I guess in a thong is close enough

This is kind of ridiculous.  The event is called a NUDE PARTY.   There has to be some kind of quality control and the guys who doesn't want to be nude simply shouldn't be at the party.   The hosts are making money and not fulfilling their part here. 

Party name should change to: SOME ARE NUDE PARTY or NUDE/THONG OPTIONAL PARTY lol. 

Out of town now.  Noticed though that he has the exact same travel schedule as chancebrokeboy, 

1 hour ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

this is also a major difference between the two cities - São Paulo is a global city and the financial capital of Latin America.  Better restaurants, better hotels, basically better everything compared to Rio - unless the beach is something you can’t live without. And even then, prepare to be robbed.

Really depends on the type of tourist you are and your requirements.  If you like fine dining, beautiful hotels, a safe & sophisticated environment, then São Paulo is for you.  
If you don’t mind subpar sketchy beach hotels, mediocre food and constant danger, then Rio is your destination.

Variety of GP is also better though (note I didn't say quality of GP ~ this depends a lot on luck.)  I also feel like the GPs in Sao Paolo are a little less "hustlery" than a lot of the guys in Rio who are just GP hustler profissional who I would keep the contact down to programa only.   

About Rio, I will agree to disagree with you on this one.  Even though Rio is just a big bummer of a chore,  I do not think there is truly CONSTANT danger.  Avoiding the danger is really tedious though.  And just It's a LOT of ubering. 

So You mean you don't feel safe even taking a walk after breakfast at 8 in the morning?  The robeiros are still asleep I think lol. I mean it's just me, but I found some periods of time when relaxing a little is okay. I think the beach is generally fine once you get there. It helps that I tan to mulato color really fast though.   My hotel choices are also strategic.  So everything I need is a safe walking distance away (2 blocks or less, mostly less).  

If you want, I can recommend some hotels that won't break the bank.  None are as good though as Sao Paolo price to quality.  

43 minutes ago, Alfstoria said:

I hope our GP thread doesn't get canceled. It's filled with valuable information for planning a sexvacation in Brazil. We're all mature adults here, so we each will take care of ourselves. We don't require additional statistics or updates on recent crimes. Whether or not we have that information, we'll be adequately prepared and aware. If I want news, I'll visit a news or statistics forum.

peace and viva 9/10 inch’s uc well built handsome face garotos

 

Back on topic,  Pro-tip that was recently taught to me as well. If introduce yourself to the hosts of the clubs, you will be surprised how well you are taken care of.  The couple who owns HotHouse are the nicest guys.  They will show you the ropes.  You will always have a stripper or two sitting next to you (who wants your money of course).  

The strippers can put you on guest lists if you befriend them (just be careful) and you won't pay for entry.

Same goes for Lagoa, there are certain people to befriend and your experience will be even better than it already is.  Pay for someones drink once and it will pay off. 

9 hours ago, BSR said:

I will never understand why the so-called "experts" lump together gun murders with gun suicides.  Murder is a crime problem whereas suicide is a mental health problem.  Eliminating guns will not stop people from committing suicide.  Most will find another means.  The few who don't will fall into an abyss:  drugs, alcohol, depression, all of the above.  Japan, where individual gun ownership is extremely rare, has a higher suicide rate than the US.

The US does not have gun violence problem.  We have a drug warfare problem and a gun suicide problem.  If you factor out those 2 causes of gun death, the US has a gun murder rate comparable to Belgium.  I provided all the links & stats in another (now deleted) thread, but nobody bothered to read them.  Hopefully you'll understand why I lack motivation to do it all over again.

To solve the drug warfare problem, the US could do what Bukele did in El Salvador:  build a massive prison and lock all the narcos up.  Whaddya know, the murder rate plummeted from a shocking 103 per 100,000 in 2015 to just 7.8 per 100K in 2022.  For 2023 year to date ( 1/1-9/3), the murder rate dropped to an eye-poppingly low 2.3 per 100K.

The big question here is WHO was being murdered?  All from inference, so I may be wrong:  They locked up the narcos who couldn't murder each other anymore.  Lower criminal-on-criminal murder that in turn lowered national homicide rates.  So what's the lesson:  don't join a gang?  I never intended to.    

I don't think the majority of your statistic affects tourists or innocent bystanders. I don't do drugs and  have no intention of going anywhere near drug crimes are known to be.   I think drug related gun crime has ZERO% to do with this particular thread.

13 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

agree - and there is a Brazilian crime problem, which may be comparable to some other  places.  
Then there is a separate & different Rio crime problem against tourists that is unique, mainly due to geography & demographics: meaning a couple of very small beachfront areas where wealthy foreign tourists congregate, which are surrounded & adjacent to several high-crime favelas.  Then add a very corrupt Rio police force & it’s creates the perfect conditions for crimes on tourists en masse.

There is no other global tourist destination with these unique dynamics at play.  Of course, it’s important to note many of Rio tourists are seeking paid sexual encounters with unknown people and/or seeking out drugs.  What exactly would anyone think could happen under these circumstances ?

To try to make a comparison, start with major global sex tourist destinations that have millions of wealthy foreign tourists descending in a tiny area surrounded by the most violent high crime/extreme poverty areas in the subject country. 
Hint: there is no other place with all the same variables and the corresponding crime against tourists.

Lots of people here don’t want to acknowledge the additional risks that exist for sex-tourists in Rio, visiting Copacabana and/or Ipanema. Much better to be realistic about it & prepare vs “it could happen anywhere”

I’ve been to Rio at least a dozen times. And it was great when I was younger.  Now, I no longer wish to vacation in a place that requires so much extra vigilance & extra security considerations.  It’s just not fun or relaxing.  
São Paulo is now my Brazilian destination of choice, without all the crime & close-in favelas.  Easy to get into trouble in SP too, but much less likely.  Stay in Jardins near Paulista and then crime equals or is less in comparable areas in major European cities

 btw - hotels & restaurants in Rio are dumps compared to SP.  

Sao Paolo for the win. The hotels are great.  A lot of the condo's that are airbnb'd are modern and extremely convenient.  My favorite airbnb, has facial recognition or a programmable entry lock (your choice), 24 hour security, a big ass tub, a Brazilian toilet that is better than my toto, shared laundry that you can reserve by app and a pool for $45 night.   The 98 Michelin Starred restaurants they have won't leave you broke. The GPs are happy to go eat out with you (choose wisely or just go by yourself) You don't need to tip (please tip) to get amazing service. Best of all, The city is sex-positive and won't judge you for being a sex tourist. You don't need to duck into Lagoa or the clubs all-incognito because sexuality is not shamed.   

Rio would be entirely optional for me if I didn't crave the beach so much when I am vacationing.  Rio can be very limiting.  Thankfully, all I really need in Rio is the beach and the sauna.  There's a lot of Ubering involved. I am not comfortable enough to go so Sao Jose, the beach city south of Sao Paolo, or I would skip Rio entirely.  I don't need to go to the Sauna everyday.  

9 hours ago, BSR said:

I will never understand why the so-called "experts" lump together gun murders with gun suicides.  Murder is a crime problem whereas suicide is a mental health problem.  Eliminating guns will not stop people from committing suicide.  Most will find another means.  The few who don't will fall into an abyss:  drugs, alcohol, depression, all of the above.  Japan, where individual gun ownership is extremely rare, has a higher suicide rate than the US.

The US does not have gun violence problem.  We have a drug warfare problem and a gun suicide problem.  If you factor out those 2 causes of gun death, the US has a gun murder rate comparable to Belgium.  I provided all the links & stats in another (now deleted) thread, but nobody bothered to read them.  Hopefully you'll understand why I lack motivation to do it all over again.

To solve the drug warfare problem, the US could do what Bukele did in El Salvador:  build a massive prison and lock all the narcos up.  Whaddya know, the murder rate plummeted from a shocking 103 per 100,000 in 2015 to just 7.8 per 100K in 2022.  For 2023 year to date ( 1/1-9/3), the murder rate dropped to an eye-poppingly low 2.3 per 100K.

United States tops 400 mass shootings in 2023 | CNN Politics

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The United States has surpassed 400 mass shootings in 2023, setting the stage for a record-breaking year...

400 mass shootings in 2023. You don't need a reason to be shot at in this country, You just need to be at the wrong place and the wrong time. 

22 hours ago, sydneyboy said:

Let assure you if you have been mugged as I was safely concerns are not “overblown.”

 

I am sorry to hear about this by the way.  I have read about your experience in other posts.  I would actually stay away from Copacabana palace though . Unless you literally plan to Uber from the front door of the palace to anywhere you are going.  I also would not step out of the palace unless my Uber is ready to go right in front.  The Uber would have to drop me off right in front of the palace going home as well.  The good motoristas know this and will warn you about danger. For The way I like to travel the palace is a no-go. There are times I would spring for say Emiliano, but this would be for one night, when I don't plan to leave the hotel.  I feel way more relaxed in a hotel that is Brazilian brand i.e. Atlantico or Windsor.  I feel like the chances of being a Gringo Victim is way less.

8 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

agree - yet, there are multiple posts here from people doing precisely that.  
some might think it’s cool to do a “favela tour”.  or, they think the American media has wildly overblown the criminal elements in the favelas.  And then there are just some really stupid people 

Some people just don't know how to travel safely I guess.  I've been to Brazil 15x now and I still don't get the draw of Favela tours. First why go to asking for trouble and secondly,  as I mentioned before If you have time to go to a favela tour with the sauna and nightlife taking up a significant portion of your time, you're just doing it wrong.  Brazil has been the most amazing place that's brought me the most joy compared to all the places I have travelled. 

22 hours ago, sydneyboy said:

Let assure you if you have been mugged as I was safely concerns are not “overblown.”

 

You can get mugged anywhere careful or not. Take precautions and plan ahead. The way I dress I dress in Brasil is 90% different than at home. I do not flaunt anything. I carry a decoy wallet, with small bills and expired credit cards. My passport stays in the hotel safe and I have a spare phone. I have a $1,000,000 travel insurance policy with repatriation, I pay yearly and can use all-over the world. It's already paid for itself when I got COVID in Brazil. Top notch hospital , concierge service for international patients, 450$ fully reimbursed. Choice of hospital should also be known prior to traveling.  

There are many many many places in the US now that it is more dangerous than Sao Paolo or Zona Sul in Rio.  I am in the medical field and just today I treated someone that got randomly shot, in their car, driving on the freeway in a safe suburb.  

I feel are a lot safer now in the good parts of Sao Paolo than a lot of places in California now.  Nowadays I can't even go to any kind of minority focused event (e.g. gay pride) without the thought of a random mass gun violence in the back of my head.  Do a simple google of "mass shootings" for different countries and you will be surprised how much safer Brazil is than a lot of places. 

Big cities are all the same when you think of it.  Hotels, drug stores, groceries stores, places of work, malls etc etc; the surroundings and people just look different. If you think the safety of big cities in US vs Brasil is different, you might want to do some research. Europe is the same if you turn the wrong corner.  Athens: you will see as much drugs as Skid row in LA or that bad part of Vancouver. Montreal has a little homeless problem now too but that doesn't mean I am not going. I never come home from Italy without my backpack having a few slash marks.  My Travel bag specifically for Europe is slash-proof.  If you haven't things like this in the majority of the places you travel to, then you are probably a "resort" person who stays in their hotel or the places you travel to are totally sterile. 

ANYWHERE THERE ARE TOURISTS, THERE IS DANGER. If you can't accept this, don't travel.  If you are afraid, stay home.

3 minutes ago, mixer17 said:

For me it's pretty simple,  if you're a tourist then be a tourist. Do the touristy things on your first trip. Feel things out. 2nd trip: more touristy things but maybe farther out. and So on and so forth. There's plenty to do and very little time.  The saunas will take up a lot of your time. If you feel like you have to go adventuring beyond the touristy areas on your first few trips, you probably haven't read up enough.

I don't quite understand why/how anyone would just happen to "wander" into a favela. Favelas look completely different than the rest of the city.  If you cannot distinguish between a favela and their rest of Copacabana or Ipanema, you have no business going to Brazil.  If you don't know what a favela looks like Google photos of favelas....

I really don't understand, how anyone would make this mistake. A dangerous place should feel and look completely different if you're observant. Sé doesn't have as many people walking around because it's a place you shouldn't be walking around. It's pretty obvious if you have went beyond boundaries because the streets will have significantly less people.  Paulista, Augusta, Oscar Freire, Freire  Caneca, Villa Madalena etc etc. has young and old, locals and tourists walking around, in a relaxed manner because there's little reason to be so guarded (stay a little bit guarded though)

Follow the rules. Keep to your Ubers; don't walk if you don't feel 100% safe about a place. Listen to the safety reports here (with a grain of salt, they tend to be overblown). Moreso, Listen to locals, they know what's unsafe and what's not.  For Example, I would never have known that Copacabana beach is not super safe during sunset, because this is when tourists are on the move back to their hotels and robbers take advantage. Learned this from an Uber driver.  I like to stay in moderately priced hotels and draw in Brazilians more than tourists because robbers are probably going to target the expensive, tourist heavy hotels. Copacabana Palace is a huge no-no unless you just plan to stay in the hotel and take Ubers.

Keep the over-confidence in check. 

I guess what I was trying to say is you shouldn't need these maps if:

1.  You have prepared and listed down some destinations.  

2. You have EYES and COMMON SENSE.  

3. You have downloaded UBER into your phone. 

For me it's pretty simple,  if you're a tourist then be a tourist. Do the touristy things on your first trip. Feel things out. 2nd trip: more touristy things but maybe farther out. and So on and so forth. There's plenty to do and very little time.  The saunas will take up a lot of your time. If you feel like you have to go adventuring beyond the touristy areas on your first few trips, you probably haven't read up enough.

I don't quite understand why/how anyone would just happen to "wander" into a favela. Favelas look completely different than the rest of the city.  If you cannot distinguish between a favela and their rest of Copacabana or Ipanema, you have no business going to Brazil.  If you don't know what a favela looks like Google photos of favelas....

I really don't understand, how anyone would make this mistake. A dangerous place should feel and look completely different if you're observant. Sé doesn't have as many people walking around because it's a place you shouldn't be walking around. It's pretty obvious if you have went beyond boundaries because the streets will have significantly less people.  Paulista, Augusta, Oscar Freire, Freire  Caneca, Villa Madalena etc etc. has young and old, locals and tourists walking around, in a relaxed manner because there's little reason to be so guarded (stay a little bit guarded though)

Follow the rules. Keep to your Ubers; don't walk if you don't feel 100% safe about a place. Listen to the safety reports here (with a grain of salt, they tend to be overblown). Moreso, Listen to locals, they know what's unsafe and what's not.  For Example, I would never have known that Copacabana beach is not super safe during sunset, because this is when tourists are on the move back to their hotels and robbers take advantage. Learned this from an Uber driver.  I like to stay in moderately priced hotels and draw in Brazilians more than tourists because robbers are probably going to target the expensive, tourist heavy hotels. Copacabana Palace is a huge no-no unless you just plan to stay in the hotel and take Ubers.

Keep the over-confidence in check. 

can't wait to hear about this one. 

Average at best.  OF content average at best.  Lots of Risky sex, hope he gets tested frequently. 

26 minutes ago, Thomas_Belgium said:

Yes, Pauleiro met MasTim.

any report?

On 5/18/2023 at 8:57 AM, Thomas_Belgium said:

Currently in Prague, I took a screenshot as proof:

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Wow Gorgeous! has anyone met him? 

To the moderators: this person's response was completely unrelated to the original posters topic and has taken over the thread.  Is this not considered Spam? 

On 6/27/2023 at 5:20 AM, pubic_assistance said:

Great news. Your chance of being murdered in Rio are still high but decreasing ( somewhat ).

Violent deaths of LGBT people in Brazil 2022 | Statista

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In 2022, the number of violent deaths of LGBT+ people in Brazil decreased in comparison to the previous year, totaling 273 occurrences.

 

On 6/27/2023 at 5:20 AM, pubic_assistance said:

Great news. Your chance of being murdered in Rio are still high but decreasing ( somewhat ).

Violent deaths of LGBT people in Brazil 2022 | Statista

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In 2022, the number of violent deaths of LGBT+ people in Brazil decreased in comparison to the previous year, totaling 273 occurrences.

 

What is it with these drama queens who can't help themselves from dipping into topics with all this hate.  IT'S NOT FOR YOU, WE GET IT. NOONE wants to know your opinion.

MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD with your hate and unwanted opinions and we won't open it. It's exhausting having through filter through this shit. 

On 5/7/2023 at 9:25 AM, Thomas_Belgium said:

Because, in my opinion, the topic about “Prague & Zürich” is a little bit confusing, this is a topic about Prague only.

 

Clubs in Prague:

https://xbarprague.cz/

http://www.updownbarprague.cz/en/home/

 

Guys in Prague

https://rent.men/Fitnessmasseur

https://www.romeo.com/hunq/HornyBoy020

 

If you know other guys in Prague, please post the link but I would appreciate if you keep this topic about Prague only, thank you.

I kind of agree,  it's pretty confusing. I don't really see any true recommendations.  Mostly just peoples past conquests. There are no links or ways on how to contact any guys.  Or guides on how to find the guys? 

I wish I visited Rio Carnaval 20 yrs ago when I still had patience and energy for big crowds haha! 

36 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

You did not say if it in December you plan to visit Brazil.   You also did not say for how long you would visit each city you mentioned (Rio and Sao Paulo).

You do know, I assume, that December is probably the worse month to visit Brazil.  You have Christmas that month.  Over the years, I noticed the garotos and many shops and restaurants expect "presents" for the holiday even though they do not know you.  Some garotos that get to know you from the sauna or elsewhere can repeat their begging to a point it is annoying.  

You said your budget is somewhere around two hundred dollars each night at a hotel.  

When I stay in Sao Paulo, I usually use the Renaissance Hotel located one block from Avenida Paulista.  It is a two to three dollar Uber ride back and forth to the hotel with regard to sauna Lagoa.  

Over the years, I have had countless visitors meet me in the hotel.  You must meet the visitor in the lobby (there are  phones in the lobby and the visitor calls you on their arrival or you set a time to meet in the lobby).  You and your guest walk to the elevators where you must use your room key to operate the elevator.  Like I said, I have never had any hotel employee ask about visitors.   That is an excellent hotel in a wonderful neighborhood of Sao Paulo. 

If you decide on the above hotel, do not use a hotel booking service for your reservation.  The hotel is part of the Marriott hotel chain.  Go directly on the site for Marriot and book your reservation.  If you have AAA auto club, you will get a discount on the room rate.  If you plan to stay more than ten nights, you will get a "long term stay" discount.  You will not get these discounts if you book through a hotel agency.  

In Rio, I stay at the Marriot in Copacabana.  The area there where Marriott is located is not the best but it is relatively safe and the hotel is nice.  It is within walking distance of sauna 202, if you are a fast walker.  If you prefer, an Uber will take you there in less than ten minutes.  

If you want to save hotel money to spend on garotos, you could stay at the Novotel in Centro.  It is not a fancy hotel but you will not be bothered if you have visitors and you will save money.  Coincidently, just across the street from Novatel is a restaurant that has been in business more than fifty years.  It is not a great restaurant but is has quite a nice selection of various and unusual items.  The name of the restaurant is Estadao and can be seen just fifty feet from the Novotel hotel.  

I hope the above helps in your decision about visiting Brazil.   

 

I am still fiddling with my dates but so far it is Dec 1-4 in SP, 4-8 Rio then 8-11 SP. Then I am back to the US for another week vacation with friends. Im looking at hotel Ca'd'oro in SP. and booked Grand Mercure in Rio.  Renaissance was one of my options in SP, its currently running around 250 per night.   Ca'd'oro around 140. Ca'd'oro is well reviewed on TripAdvisor but the info you provided  about Renaissance weighs heavier.  Haha!! Thanks for the Info! 

32 minutes ago, Vegas_nw1982 said:

 

 

My General Practitioner has started doing housecalls since the uptick of telemedicine has made working without an office more feasible.  But when I visit Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, I seek out a medical clinic when needed instead of relying on a hotel doctor or finding a General Practitioner to make a hotel visit.

So 4 WIW, when in PV with an STI and need a GP, find a clinic rather than rely on Hotel GP, but YMMV.  GL, SS, &HF!  TTFN

While General Practitioner is not commonsensical for the context of my question, I completely understand where you are coming from about abbreviations and acronyms.  I will remember for next time that I cannot use them without receiving negative responses from some forum members that need to be spoon-fed. 

11 hours ago, FrankR said:

WTF? Please stop speaking in code. 🤫 My grandma used to say that if you dont say what you mean, you can never mean what you say. 

What codes did I use?  RJ, SP and GP are very common and unmistakable acronyms.  Or at least they are  in the Americas board.  My parents used to say if you have nothing nice to say then don’t say anything at all.  Petty.

So far the AirBNBs I have found want me to pre-register the “guests” i plan to have over by sending over their credentials in advance and they need to stop by reception for verification.   They also are not allowed to stay overnight.   seems to be same/similar requirements on all the hosts I asked. 

I am looking to rent some nice condo in SP and RJ during my visit this December and I was wondering if I would have any trouble bringing in GP? Does anyone have any experiences?