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I would take that to mean no over-weight men.

I'm surprised no reviews. Ad says he's been doing massage for 10 years. I could do without the tattoos, but I like his laid back sexy natural body look. Can anyone speak about his massage talent?

I certainly wasn't advocating for Ken to fail. Just expressing my opinion about sensual massage for the gay male customer. If others are happy with Ken's clothed service, by all means he should be praised and supported for a great massage.

Well, if he didn't get naked for an old-timer regular, what are the chances he'll get naked with any one of us? I just don't get it. Most gay men want to be naked with another man during massage, and they will pay a premium for that fantasy wish. I get the disdain for the serial gropers, but I never touch unless invited. Am I alone in this? The visual of naked by itself is worth a higher price for me. If he smothers my face with his groin and butt, then we hit a home-run. But to keep your clothes on while you service a golden unicorn? What a bummer. Thanks EV for the update. Very helpful.

No easy way to get there by public transportation. I wonder how a business like this can survive?

Looks like prices have changed on the M&J website. $100 for 90 minute massage is a bargain, especially if the massage is good. Can't say much about the stock photos. Has anyone had their pubic hair shaved at one of these places? I should probably start a new topic?

He'll be in NYC soon. He lives in London but is traveling. He is not traveling with a table. Has anyone experienced his bed massage?

Lovely. But what is his background? Is he Asian? Latino? Mexican? Texan? Cut or uncut? Flirtatious? Generous with his assets? Thank you. (Clean shaven and polite does nothing for my richter. 😄)

No, I didn't mean that. What a wonderful world it could be if we could visit a gay men's spa website and choose our masseur with the help of a photo. Not in my lifetime. However, if you're trying to attract gay men (or any man) to a spa experience, you can certainly do better than what Shangrila offers. The website is little more than a Yellow pages listing. LOL. (PS I guess it could be worse. The pages could offer naked women in the photos, the generic kind.)

That website is a joke.

The masseur here really knows what he is doing. I wouldn't call this a deep sports massage, but it comes very close. I love when a bearded guy teases the skin around my butt hole with his beard. Even better, when he enjoys rimming. This guy's technique of rimming, while caressing the rest of the body, is the mark of a serious pleasure-providing therapist. Loved this video as a true sensual massage example.

I get the attractive price, but I can't see anything else in his ad that arouses curiosity let alone action. I'm baffled on this one.

Am I the only one who watches Kale's underwear try-ons on YouTube? I am so hot for this guy. He has a ton of social media links at K A L E (12 links) ALLMYLINKS.COM Self Proclaimed Model His profile on PornHub says he is into men and women. Has anyone here ever been with him? I sure wish he did massage. I'd be there in a heartbeat. Damn sexy, and seems incredibly sweet. Is he for real?

He's got a great smile, but those legs. OMG. Killers. Not sure I would want to get my head stuck between those. His package seems huge. My jaw hurts just looking at it. Would love to know if he's talented at massage.

Cohn was drowning in hate, being a vain gay and Jewish in the 50's, with an ugly scar running down his nose. A Shakespearean character of his own making, especially after he was awarded power and fame from the Rosenberg trial at the age of 24. The self-hatred among gays in the 50's is what struck me in this story. The closet was a very ugly, Hell-ish place to live. The fact that Joe McCarthy and his ilk were mostly Catholic was the second most disturbing truth from the series. Unforgivable cruelty and evil, all for the sake of power and fame. Most young gays today have no clue that our government behaved the way it did in the 50's. Do they teach this stuff in red state schools? Absolutely not. I doubt much of this gets taught in blue state schools. The suicide rate during the McCarthy era was staggering. As for acting, Jonathan Bailey stood out for me. His character was incredibly layered and complex. Given how he speaks in real life, I thought his acting was amazing.

You got me. LOL. He's got nice feet, too. I wonder if he would let you lick his pits unshowered? Thanks for posting your experience.

I don't either. And the pumped muscle mass doesn't look natural to me, either. I know a lot of guys are into super-pumped muscle, but I'm not one of those.

I also saw him more than a decade ago when he was younger. It was a summer day and he was warm and sweaty, wearing shorts, which worked for me. We did the massage on the floor, where he displayed nimble qualities. After he saw me naked, he advanced quickly to the sensual. There was barely enough time to discern his massage skill, but his touch did not repel me. He turned me onto my back fairly quickly, so I was disappointed in no glute work. I was pretty horny that day, so we did have some fun. He seemed very into playing, and we both ended up satisfied. I don't think he was here for the full hour. I never booked him again. Just goes to show how much I value massage talent over sex. I remember him being Russian and a small-bodied man. He had a boyish quality about him, which could make his age difficult to guess. I'm sure if he had an intoxicating body odor I would have seen him again, but I don't remember his scent at all. I'm sorry to hear he's behaving like a jerk. Jerk behavior is a surefire way to kill your business.

LOL. It took me a minute to figure out what SW meant. Brain fart. A board like this reminds us that no two clients are alike. The same is true for masseurs. There are a percentage of customers who always want something for nothing. Who doesn't love a freebie or a deal? I'm sure some horny gay guys live a selfish life, and when they book a massage off one of these sites, they most certainly are seeking SW any way they can get it, as cheaply as possible. The masseur has to decide how he wants to handle a customer like this. Do you provide a price list? Do you reject old grabby hands every five seconds? Or do you sit on that gorgeous hard-on and satisfy that bottom urge you've had all day? Speaking honestly, I never booked a massage looking for penetration. I was always prepared for aggressive glute work, but penetration was last on my mind. That is, until I discovered the unspoken desire of some masseurs. Certain masseurs know how to seduce us into spending more money, even if it means a chance increase in tip. The guys who were generous sharing their body smells with me certainly left my apartment richer. It's a jungle out there, and we all have to figure out a way to navigate. I always believed that good communication was key, but now in these text-only digital days, it's getting more and more difficult to go beyond one or two words, or can't text at all. Sadly, I don't know what the answer is anymore.

The yogi guys seem to have incredible flexibility, and can withstand these awkward body positions for lengthy period of times. Many Asian guys can do things with their bodies that I could never do. Squatting comes so easy for many of them. Some of my best bed massages were performed by Asian masseurs. I do miss those days.

For many years I used a padded exercise mat neatly covered with a bed sheet on the floor. My floors are poly-ed wood. The mat was fine for me (when my skeleton was in better shape), but I felt sorry for the therapist. I went out and bought knee pads. I'm probably revealing my identity by saying I offered my outcall masseurs kneepads. I have to say those floor massages were mostly fun for me. Almost every one of those guys easily managed to sit on my face during the service.

Mark Alvee has a new video out showing a bed massage in a hotel. This is a good visual example of how difficult this bed method is. Keep in mind that both Mark and the masseur are not tall guys. You can see the little room that exists for a therapist to do competent work. Also, notice the length of time the masseur is on his knees. And when he's not on his knees, he's bent over, dealing with the strain on his back muscles. Certainly, if you want to feign bed sex as the customer, a bed massage might get your fantasy somewhere close. There is no way I can do the head on a pillow anymore, thanks to older age. I need a headrest, so a bed massage is a no for me.

If I stepped into a gym massage room and saw this guy, I would melt. Damn. It's difficult to imagine a muscled body like that not being talented at massage. Guys with bodies like these should know a great massage by default. But the truth is, the talent lies in the hands, and the knowledge and power put behind them. I once went to a guy who specialized in Swedish. He was a handsome, sweet guy, but his massage always made me fall asleep. It took another guy, a sports specialist, to teach me that I never wanted to fall asleep during a massage. Once you embrace the pain benefit, there is no going back to Swedish.

No shortage of photos in quality locations. Definitely a nice body and great behind for a bttm. Face looks familiar. With no massage skill, this thread sounds like he's one of the easy-money guys. Maybe he sits on your face while he plays with your pecs. Many would find that worth $200. I don't see him wanting to do laundry to keep clean sheets on the massage table. Too bad. If he had serious talent, and a generous personality, imagine the business demand this guy could muster.

How would you know whom to book with? Why would the price be $200 at RM, and $70 for 60 minutes at G Man? This doesn't make any sense to me. Is this just a ploy to use (unknown) photos to lure customers in? As much as I like a handsome Asian guy, these ads (and spas) are difficult to trust.