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Yesterday a post here reported a story about an escort who showed up for a BFE and provided no intimacy. The author used this phrase rather than the excort's nick, and one of the reponders invited a PM in order to check whether they were conned by the same guy.
 
Can't understand this!
Why are you keeping secrets?
Please share nicks, so we'll know whom to avoid!!
 
The aim of this forum is to share not only complimentary referrals but also warnings.
Do both gentelmen want others to go through they same ordeal, allowing this dishonest escort to continue swindling?
Enough with the over-consideration and PC carefulenss!
By taking pity on the bad guys, you're punishing the good guys.

Yesterday a post here reported a story about an escort who showed up for a BFE and provided no intimacy. The author used this phrase rather than the excort's nick, and one of the reponders invited a PM in order to check whether they were conned by the same guy.
 
Can't understand this!
Why are you keeping secrets?
Please share nicks, so we'll know whom to avoid!!
 
The aim of this forum is to share not only complimentary referrals but also warnings.
Do both gentelmen want others to go through they same ordeal, allowing this dishonest escort to continue swindling?
Enough with the over-consideration and PC carefulenss!
By taking pity on the bad guys, you're punishing the good guys.

$5 per minute = $300 per hour.
Isn't it better to pay an escort the same (or les), for full sex in a relaxed setting?

Yesterday a post here reported a story about an escort who showed up for a BFE and provided no intimacy. The author used this phrase rather than the excort's nick, and one of the reponders invited a PM in order to check whether they were conned by the same guy.
 
Can't understand this!
Why are you keeping secrets?
Please share nicks, so we'll know whom to avoid!!
 
The aim of this forum is to share not only complimentary referrals but also warnings.
Do both gentelmen want others to go through they same ordeal, allowing this dishonest escort to continue swindling?
Enough with the over-consideration and PC carefulenss!
By taking pity on the bad guys, you're punishing the good guys.

Hi Guys,
 
A member described an encounter with an escort who scammed him; he later found out that he wasn't the first to be scammed by him. When I inquired why he doesn't share the ID of the scammer, he answered: "Describing a bad experience with a well-reviewed guy invites an avalanche of criticism from his fans and supporters." This was seconded by another member, and it's not the first time I've seen this attitude reflected in our forums.
 
I humbly beg everyone to reconsider.
 
1. The main raison d'etre of these forums is to assist us in enjoying sessions with the good guys, by commending AND by warning.
2. When you refrain from warning, you indirectly set guys up for scamming cheats and endow the bad guys with immunity.
3. Why care about "an avalanche of criticisms"? Are we supposed to permit verbal thugs to suppress free speech?? Does their negativity spread from this forum into our personal-social life??? Isn't disregarding them one of the benefits of our anonymity here????
 
Please ignore negative feedback and let us be forewarned.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!" - I mean warning prospective clients, not taking revenge on escorts.

Hi Guys,
 
A member described an encounter with an escort who scammed him; he later found out that he wasn't the first to be scammed by him. When I inquired why he doesn't share the ID of the scammer, he answered: "Describing a bad experience with a well-reviewed guy invites an avalanche of criticism from his fans and supporters." This was seconded by another member, and it's not the first time I've seen this attitude reflected in our forums.
 
I humbly beg everyone to reconsider.
 
1. The main raison d'etre of these forums is to assist us in enjoying sessions with the good guys, by commending AND by warning.
2. When you refrain from warning, you indirectly set guys up for scamming cheats and endow the bad guys with immunity.
3. Why care about "an avalanche of criticisms"? Are we supposed to permit verbal thugs to suppress free speech?? Does their negativity spread from this forum into our personal-social life??? Isn't disregarding them one of the benefits of our anonymity here????
 
Please ignore negative feedback and let us be forewarned.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!" - I mean warning prospective clients, not taking revenge on escorts.

Hi Guys,
 
A member described an encounter with an escort who scammed him; he later found out that he wasn't the first to be scammed by him. When I inquired why he doesn't share the ID of the scammer, he answered: "Describing a bad experience with a well-reviewed guy invites an avalanche of criticism from his fans and supporters." This was seconded by another member, and it's not the first time I've seen this attitude reflected in our forums.
 
I humbly beg everyone to reconsider.
 
1. The main raison d'etre of these forums is to assist us in enjoying sessions with the good guys, by commending AND by warning.
2. When you refrain from warning, you indirectly set guys up for scamming cheats and endow the bad guys with immunity.
3. Why care about "an avalanche of criticisms"? Are we supposed to permit verbal thugs to suppress free speech?? Does their negativity spread from this forum into our personal-social life??? Isn't disregarding them one of the benefits of our anonymity here????
 
Please ignore negative feedback and let us be forewarned.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!" - I mean warning prospective clients, not taking revenge on escorts.

try these.
they offer massages; probably not professional.
 
http://www.kocnet.jp/english/index.html
https://kids-jp.com/en/tk/s/

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

Notwithstanding the escort's unacceptable behavior, as a client I always hold (also?) myself responsible for not going overtime. When there's a risk of this happening, I discuss it with the escort 10 minutes before the planned session ends.
 
I'm sorry to say/write this, but I really don't understand how a person doesn't notice that 4 hours are passing by. If it would have happened to me, I'd have paid 400 eur. I probably wouldn't have liked the fact that he didn't hold himself responsible for going overtime (in this case I'm sure he did it on purpose), but he and my feeling of bitterness/resentment don't absolve me from my 'contractual' responsibility/decency.

and when you find, please share

N45, I don't understand your reaction.
 
Of course it's a business transaction for him, but so it is for the client. Why then is it so natural to discuss appreciation by the client but not by the escort?
Over the years on these forums many discussed the need to behave respectfully toward escorts. I totally agree. But then - as in other spheres of life - PC kicked in, and now many clients are bending backwards. The zeitgeist now is that we expect of them less than we expect of ourselves (e.g. paying in full for non-performance).
 
To clarify:
I don't expect tokens of appreciation from any escort, including my regulars or those toward whom I've been extra nice.
I'm just wondering aloud why recurring discussions about these tokens are so one-sided.....

or
the client gets a HE from one, and gives to the other...

Hi Guys,
 
Would appreciate any guidance about fun (pay or free) in Amsterdam.
(I'm aware of PlaneRomeo and other websites.)
 
There's a year-old thread about Boys Club 21, but no reviews about prices and types.
Again, would appreciate any update about this or other clubs/saunas.
 
Thanks,
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