Keenan

@Keenan – the things we stumble upon because of ignorance and naiveté! ?

True and I was only 18 at the time.

Keenan

My first experience as an escort was sort of unexpected to say the least. I was hired as a nude cleaner by an agency not as an escort. I went to the guys house, stripped down and was ready to start cleaning. He suggested I clean the bedroom first, should've figured that he wanted a little more than me cleaning the bedroom. While I was really nervous I enjoyed the time and later learned that cleaning was really more of a front for this agency. I did continue for about a year or so and then went independent.

Keenan

I always try to follow up after someone has viewed my ad thanking them for viewing it. Even if they don't respond at least I reached out.

Keenan

I got into a disagreement with someone over this yesterday. As one who hires, I feel it is justified and fair for providers to substantially raise rates to compensate for months of lost business, and that those who hire should be just fine to oblige, as they will be so horny at this point they will give whatever is asked.

 

My friend told me it is a damn good thing I don't run a business, because I'm crazy to think anyone should do such a thing, essentially implying things should be business as usual and nothing ever happened.

 

I've been price gouged by a masseur only once, who hated my company so much that he let me know later that day (but I didn't hate his), that he was willing for a re-meet for two and a half times his standard rate when he came to my neck of the woods again $200 instead of $80. I declined.

Price gouging I see is raising rates a ridiculous amount? How much? That depends on where the escort lives and the market there. If the escort is charging $150 and the standard rate in the area is between $200-$250 and the escort decides to raise the rate from $150 to $200 I don't see an issue with that. He is in line with what others are charging and has a right to modify his rates from time to time. I think you have to consider too that some may raise their rates due to the risk they place themselves in.

I'm doing private one-on-one cam shows. I also offer customers direct control of my hush plug during the session if they'd like.

Keenan

That has, unfortunately, been my experience. I need a trained, EXPERIENCED, master.

 

Does anyone have a solid DC recommendation?

I love doing rope bondage, in fact to make things even more fun I have conductive rope which I can use with my violet wand. I'm based in the Baltimore/DC area.

Keenan

While it may be bad for escorting, I still need to make a living so as an escort I will continue escorting. Yes my health is at risk but I feel as an escort my health is always at a certain amount of risk. No one says an escorts job is easy, but taking the proper precautions do help.

Keenan

Looking for someone who loves skiing?

I love skiing and been skiing since I was a kid.

Keenan

Not in the business, but a question posed only due to curiosity.

 

What happens if the client after much communication of kinks, time, place , etc.

 

He turns out to be much too big in size for you to feel comfortable going ahead with the deed?

 

It seems rather strange for the provider to ask their client their dick size.

First it's important that the client and escort communicate about any potential issues before the appointment. With that said it's my job as an escort to make sure the client enjoys his time. If he wants to top me then making that happen is important. I have had customers that are really big and the way I handle it is 1)lots of lube, 2)control the situation and by that I mean if there is an easier way for me to bottom for someone bigger then I'll let them know the position (typically I like missionary so I he or I can stroke some while he is inside me). If anything is hurting or he is going to fast I will communicate and make sure he is aware. Some guys go in to fast and taking it slow is key with bigger guys.

Overall controlling the situation is key and communication,

Keenan

That's very interesting. My first hire I told him I wanted to go slowly because I would be very nervous. As soon as we got into his hotel room, he went right for a deep kiss. It freaked me out. It still ended up going well, but those first 10 or so minutes were really awkward for me.

The escort should have let you set the pace instead of setting the pace for you in my experience.

Keenan

Hey guys,

 

I'm about to take my first plunge into hiring and I've been learning a lot from reading the forum here.

 

I'll be taking a trip soon and I booked a guy who is well reviewed and regarded, but I am completely inexperienced. I have disclosed this to him and he asked me what I was looking for. I told him I wanted someone who could be gentle and understanding with me but could "take charge", not in a dom/sub sort of way but just guiding me on what would be most enjoyable since, for me, it's all been theoretical fantasies to this point. We left it at that and he said we'll get in touch again as we get closer to the appointment.

 

My question to providers is, what would you want a new inexperienced client to know or communicate to you before the appointment? Would you like more clear details what they expect or would you feel comfortable guiding the experience for them?

To add to what I said earlier when I go to see I customer I won't initiate any contact or getting undressed. This is to protect myself just in case the customer is in fact with law enforcement. If they want to see me naked or kiss me they have to make the first move and communicate.

Keenan

I feel communication is key. Clear details from what you are looking for makes my job easier. We can't read your mind. While we are there for you I feel both client and escort need to set the pace together. Example, when the escort arrives depending on how much time you have booked with him you may either want to sit down and talk some or you may want to offer to help the escort feel more comfortable. Overall just make sure you communicate and then things should feel less awkward.

Keenan

Who's been there?

I go there from time to time.

Keenan

isn't forum member Keenan from Baltimore? I'm surprised he hasn't been recommended yet.

Yes I am from Baltimore.

It pains me to bring this up but I need to let providers know that live in the DC area be careful with a certain client in Burk VA. I know of 6 providers including me who lost 30k in donations from a client who is committing bank fraud, bad checks and credit card fraud.

 

This client has paid providers with fake checks, in my case he disputed charges 2 months later. Miraculously his mom died and then came back to life, and tons of ridiculous lies and threats.

 

He also has videotaped every provider without consent. I had to move as I didnt feel comfortable with this guy knowing where I live.

 

I cant report him or go to the police so now I am out thousands and now have a sociopath stalking me.

 

I won’t put his name or his address in this thread, because I don’t want there to be any types of harassment towards him and to protect me legally.

If its the same guy he paid me in counterfeit money. While he stayed dressed and played with me in various states of undress I later found out that he had videotaped the entire session and posted it to xtube or a similar site. This was a few years ago and to say the least I wasn't happy.

After a long hiatus from the escort world this past year I am back to working again. I guess the scenes I filmed over the past year helped but the encouragement of clients to come back also helped. So now I am back and this time working full time.

Keenan

Since most topics have already been discussed including this one I'm sure, I thought I'd ask anyway for a current perspective. Have you ever offered a freebie to a longterm client? I once made an arrangement with an escort I was seeing regularly back in the 1980's, that for every 10 times I see him I get a freebie. That worked well. Just wondering what some of you have or think about the idea. Maybe as a good business decision? Thoughts? Musings?

I do similar. It shows appreciation and keeps clients coming back. A few years back I worked in Australia and there it was a work live situation since brothels are allowed. There the client would get the room for free every 10 times but the escort would still get paid the fee.

Keenan

Hey guys, if you are dancing at a club but also have an escort add, what is the etiquette around -say- asking if you want to step out for an hour or two? It seems like many of the guys at Adonis for example do both. Will you get in trouble if you skip out for a bit? Is it sketchy to ask?

 

Thanks!

At least in my case can't leave in the middle of the shift but after the shift is done can meet.

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I advertise as safe only and clients see that but I've had a few clients take it upon themselves to either let the condom slip off or remove the condom and then to proceed going bb. It angers me because some of these clients don't think about the health of the escort, just the enjoyment they want to get for themselves.

This goes both for escorts and clients. How often does a client fall in love with an escort or vice versa? Can such a relationship work?

Clients falling in love with an escort, it happens from time to time, vice versa, not as much. Can such a relationship work? Not likely though it depends on the client. What most clients have an issue with is that the escort still needs to make money and will still be working as an escort. Many clients will get over protective and that will lead to the demise of the so-called relationship.

Keenan

I wouldn't think most escorts would want clients to get to know them. I've tried to be friendly and ask questions of the ones I have hired and they seem to be turned off that I'm asking... and I was just being friendly. To be honest, in general, I have found attractive people to not be the friendliest people (in San Diego and on gay cruises), unless you look like a model yourself. I'm not ugly by any means, but I'm not a model.. just a nice looking fellow.

Not true of all escorts. I've been a sexworker/escort since my senior year in high school starting as a nude male stripper at a club and eventually moving into escorting. I have found that creating a connection with the client/customer and allowing them to get to know me somewhat and me getting to know them helps with repeat business. It really should be the job of the sexworker to make the connection as many times the client/customer can be nervous around us.

Keenan

Since you asked Victor Powers, I assume you are not really familiar with the concept, So, having lived that life, I feel exceedingly capable of explaining thjs to you. Thank you for recognizing that this may be an area in which I might have some expertise.

 

It is a blessing and curse. Having a fit and attractive body usually is associated with good health and a sense of well being mentally. As a result, many people are attracted to those aspects of your being. However, soon enough, if that is all there is to you, no depth, no gravitas, no humor, no humanity, you will find yourself alone or with people who just care about the superficial you. It is the difference between love and lust. It is the difference between fucking and making love. It is the difference between a cherished lover and a post coital sweaty piece of meat that people are anxiously trying to get out of their bed and to the street. .

So it is a big deal.

Most men are horny as fuck and there are times when all they want is to get their rocks off and so having a body that can pretty much guarantee a good hard sweaty fuck is a blessing and you are the one wanting to exit the sheets and the scene, smilingly fucked out.

The negative aspect, comes when trying to judge why someone you care for is with you. It is not knowing whether you are just wanted for your body. Similarly being exceedingly rich tends to put in your mind that perhaps it is the money and not you to whom you partner is attracted. Poor and ugly men do not have this particular problem set.

Also a negative, looks fade and so Victor, if you are in doubt about your attractiveness other than your mortal flesh, I suggest you work on your personality, your kindness and your humor. And, perhaps your sexual techniques and imagination.

I couldn't agree more with your post. Just to add to this while one may think with many guys lusting over your body you may be happy, it's actually the opposite. As an escort many guys don't even try to get to know me, they see my body, they see the end result and then they are off. The job can actually be quite lonely.

Enjoy your time with your new pack. Feel free to sniff around here once and again.

Thanks. And if you are looking for a room for MAL for next year you better book soon, the hotel is already more than halfway sold out. http://www.leatherweekend.com. As they did this year it will be very hard to get into the hotel in the evenings unless you have a run pass for MAL (starting around $150-$175) or are staying at the Hyatt.

I would like to thank everyone who attended the Sunday MAL Forum brunch, and other gatherings, this past weekend. We had an incredibly fun time with clients and providers enjoying good food, making connections, and drinking lots of alcohol. Please read @latbear4blk synopsis of the weekend in the post above. He’s described the weekend so much more eloquently than I could ever write myself.

 

Special thanks to each of the providers who were able to attend @nate_sf , @Ace , @hunterlee , @WilliamErickson and @VictorPowers. This event, along with Palm Springs, allows our community to get together and build relationships that strengthen bonds and create lasting friendships. Now more than ever, we all need to gather in safe, nonjudgmental, and respectful evironments where we can just be ourselves and speak openly about this unique hobby and profession.

 

I will be hosting again same time next year. As soon as dates are available for MAL 2020 I will let everyone know.

 

Thanks

First MAL 2020 is the weekend of January 17th - 19th. I already booked an 800 sq. ft. suite at the Hyatt. Second while I have tried to make it to the DC meetup brunch in the past and while I was there last year I have decided to start pulling out of this community for a number of reasons. I will come onto these message boards from time to time but no longer plan to "work" as a provider. Not only over the past year have I become involved with the leather community but I have also become involved in the pup community too and am pledging a local pups and handlers group. These groups create close tight knit communities which is very important for me. If you see me on here feel free to say hello otherwise I am out.

I'd say "if" sex does happen since it doesn't always happen that after initial introduction and other parts that it's probably about 20 minutes +/- some. This doesn't include the foreplay.

Keenan