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Conversely. I've encountered 3 or 4 providers in the last few weeks, one moments ago, marked as available during "regular hours" who respond that they're booked up or don't respond until hours later. Nothing wrong in the interaction, I just find the label unreliable.

I strongly encourage you to read through reviews on the forum and choose an established and recommended provider for your first time. I've been getting massage for years and even I am careful about hiring off the apps. Not to say I don't but your likelihood of a dud increases exponentially. This forum exists for you.

I strongly encourage you to read through reviews on the forum and choose an established and recommended provider for your first time. I've been getting massage for years and even I am careful about hiring off the apps. Not to say I don't but your likelihood of a dud increases exponentially. This forum exists for you.

Interesting these reports of disappointing second visits...

When I read reviews that convinced me a provider is not good I block them on RM to make sure I don't fall for those assets in a moment of weakness 😉

When I read reviews that convinced me a provider is not good I block them on RM to make sure I don't fall for those assets in a moment of weakness 😉

When I read reviews that convinced me a provider is not good I block them on RM to make sure I don't fall for those assets in a moment of weakness 😉

When I read reviews that convinced me a provider is not good I block them on RM to make sure I don't fall for those assets in a moment of weakness 😉

Truly.
How could you NOT find a thread about this ? There must be 100 of them.
I agree with what @Michael PhDstated above.
Sensual = titillating and the possibility of you leaving happy.
Erotic = titillating and the expectation of you leaving happy.
Not advertising as an escort means you shouldn't be expecting them to be providing escort services.
I've found it most productive (if you're looking to get a truly erotic experience from a masseur) If you book an erotic session. Let them do their thing. Tip them generously and then engage in a man2man conversation afterwards about the possibility of adding other features to your next session.  Doesn't hurt to ask. And a good tipper will always be given the opportunity  to get to the very limits of what a provider is comfortable with, sexually.
 

Tried him out for an incall in his nice location in Astoria -- massage on bed, well done if mattress was a bit soft for my taste.
Nicest guy ever - and every bit as good looking as his private pics reveal!

Yeah was just at W the other day for the first time in a while, a break from HK. I haven't had as poor experience as that in a long time... 

That's just me being not too detailed in my description. The "early evening" was, in fact, an agreed 7pm.
There was much more detail in our chats. I don't know about other people, but I'm not comfortable giving every identifiable detail in a public post as there are providers who use this board and could figure out your identity. 
There's been no info on him so I thought I'd post my experience and in case others see a trend. This could have been a one off.

Will be intense at work for next couple of weeks so wanted a treat before the madness. Contacted him. Seemed nice, normal. Rate was typical. Scheduled for two evenings away but wanted to get back to me the next day to confirm a time.
Texts me at 11pm the following day asking "how are you" then again at 2:30am asking what time to meet. I suggest early evening.
The day of the meetup he says his schedule is too complicated to work it out... At this point I'm busy at work so can't really find a replacement short notice. Guess I don't get my "treat."
You know, things come up but it sounds like he shouldn't have scheduled in the first place. More disappointing than anything.
 

When I read reviews that convinced me a provider is not good I block them on RM to make sure I don't fall for those assets in a moment of weakness 😉

I strongly encourage you to read through reviews on the forum and choose an established and recommended provider for your first time. I've been getting massage for years and even I am careful about hiring off the apps. Not to say I don't but your likelihood of a dud increases exponentially. This forum exists for you.

I strongly encourage you to read through reviews on the forum and choose an established and recommended provider for your first time. I've been getting massage for years and even I am careful about hiring off the apps. Not to say I don't but your likelihood of a dud increases exponentially. This forum exists for you.

I strongly encourage you to read through reviews on the forum and choose an established and recommended provider for your first time. I've been getting massage for years and even I am careful about hiring off the apps. Not to say I don't but your likelihood of a dud increases exponentially. This forum exists for you.

I strongly encourage you to read through reviews on the forum and choose an established and recommended provider for your first time. I've been getting massage for years and even I am careful about hiring off the apps. Not to say I don't but your likelihood of a dud increases exponentially. This forum exists for you.

Agree on #1 & #3 above.  I look every year we go to ptown and have found no one that stands out.

My experience, complete LOSER. Booked him for a charity event. Seemed nice enough at first. Said he prefers escorting to porn. Little did I know. He was the headline guest. Totally walked out with no warning in the middle of the event to go do a hookup. I know because he f'ing tweeted about it while we scrambled to get someone to fill in. Thankfully Boomer lived just down the street. He was awesome!

He really is good. 
 
In the past 2 months, I’ve learned to appreciate the meaning of YMMV. As a birthday treat, I had a massage from a well-recommended masseur and it was ‘meh’ at best. 🤷‍♂️ I left feeling like I had wasted my time and money and I couldn’t put my finger on where it went wrong  
However, tonight was different with TantricShaman. There was a great connection and I left feeling amazing. You have to go in with an open mind and embrace how different the experience is. I did and it was very satisfing.
 
I will repeat.   

Yeah sure I get it. I guess I've seen him maybe 20 times and there might have been 3 with release but not a physical climax. Not sure if that makes sense or how your experience felt.
For others reading this thread, it's difficult to describe. He can be both dominating and caring. I've only encountered one other provider (London) that was similar. For anyone thinking of seeing him its important not to "monitor" what he's doing-- is that a drum? Is that incense? It's best to get out of your thinking brain and lean into the rhythm of the drum beat or the smell of the incense and turn your brain off. It can be pretty hard to do, plus part of the excitement of seeing a new masseur are things like: how and where is he touching my body, are there hints of eroticism to come, when do things turn sexy. Those thoughts are thrilling and exciting. I love it but not really the situation here. Oh, and if you're 100% alpha type or must be in control then save your money for a masseur lol. 
BTW, def NOT criticizing your experience @francisssgorg! YMMV is always the rule! I tend not to comment in the forums unless I have questions or first hand so with Alex I felt I should share my experience. 

I've seen Alex many times over many years though I haven't seen him since covid. His background is indigenous South American and he's an actual shaman. So yeah, a lot of drums, chanting, incense, etc. which is authentic for him. It's very little typical massage but rather an experience that you lean in and let go into. I've also done leather (leather not feather) sessions with him which were very sexually charged. 
It's not for everyone and not for anyone looking for rub n tug (or a typical hour deep tissue with release). Admittedly it took a couple of sessions in the beginning before I understood what it was and wasn't. 
Tantric by definition has a spiritual component but the term has been bastardized and lost its meaning. We discussed that on occasion and his frustration around that point. That said, his ad doesn't give you much to go on so some of that misunderstanding is on him. It's likely those who book have different expectations. I kept going back because I appreciated the experience and focus on my well being. And I find him sexy af. 😁

Yeah sure I get it. I guess I've seen him maybe 20 times and there might have been 3 with release but not a physical climax. Not sure if that makes sense or how your experience felt.
For others reading this thread, it's difficult to describe. He can be both dominating and caring. I've only encountered one other provider (London) that was similar. For anyone thinking of seeing him its important not to "monitor" what he's doing-- is that a drum? Is that incense? It's best to get out of your thinking brain and lean into the rhythm of the drum beat or the smell of the incense and turn your brain off. It can be pretty hard to do, plus part of the excitement of seeing a new masseur are things like: how and where is he touching my body, are there hints of eroticism to come, when do things turn sexy. Those thoughts are thrilling and exciting. I love it but not really the situation here. Oh, and if you're 100% alpha type or must be in control then save your money for a masseur lol. 
BTW, def NOT criticizing your experience @francisssgorg! YMMV is always the rule! I tend not to comment in the forums unless I have questions or first hand so with Alex I felt I should share my experience. 

I've seen Alex many times over many years though I haven't seen him since covid. His background is indigenous South American and he's an actual shaman. So yeah, a lot of drums, chanting, incense, etc. which is authentic for him. It's very little typical massage but rather an experience that you lean in and let go into. I've also done leather (leather not feather) sessions with him which were very sexually charged. 
It's not for everyone and not for anyone looking for rub n tug (or a typical hour deep tissue with release). Admittedly it took a couple of sessions in the beginning before I understood what it was and wasn't. 
Tantric by definition has a spiritual component but the term has been bastardized and lost its meaning. We discussed that on occasion and his frustration around that point. That said, his ad doesn't give you much to go on so some of that misunderstanding is on him. It's likely those who book have different expectations. I kept going back because I appreciated the experience and focus on my well being. And I find him sexy af. 😁