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Thanks, but I still can't access the locked nude photos - I'm not a subscriber. ☹️

I'm not a member, so I have no access to photos of his tool (which I'd like to see before hiring). If anyone wants to PM me screen caps of his tool, I'd be rather happy.

Separated - not divorced. Still considered legally married, and I'm betting she was still the beneficiary of his life insurance policy. Even if they were divorced for years, I can't imagine her having such a cool and collected reaction hours after the father of her children was gunned down in cold blood.

I would ask the same question to clients about providers ! Not too long ago, I met a new masseur who moved to my area. In conversation, he asked me what I did for a living, and I told him (in a very general term) I worked in a behavioral health facility, without giving away my position or job duties. Within minutes, he started unloading on me about 'issues' he was having, and he needed to find a new therapist since he's in a new area, and who did I recommend, blah, blah, blah. He did let me know he suffers from anxiety and depression - so which doctor in the area would be the best fit for him ? (It also sounded a little like schizophrenia, too, as he was telling me he believed he was being 'followed' by a sinister individual on his move from the west coast to the east coast, but he couldn't explain why). I gave him the phone number of the company I work for, and told him to book an appointment for 'screening' and they can go from there with him. His questions were beyond my expertise (I deal with the insurance coverage of people), so I couldn't get involved. He seemed to understand, and was happy with the info I suggested to get him started. I know just making the phone call can be overwhelming for some. Cute / sexy guy with decent skills, but after talking about this in the early part of the appointment, it was tough for me to get 'turned on' for the erotic part of the massage. He really had to work at getting me erect and 'explode' (but kudos to him - he did).

I agree. I don't want to be the first to taste him - I mean 'test' him - though. But if I must, I must...

I've hired some very hot men for erotic massages over the years, at rather affordable prices (meaning they weren't charging 'escort' prices for erotic massage). Handsome, sexy guys with unbelievable bodies. I always like to make light conversation with my providers, and after complimenting their looks and skills, usually ask if any guys only hire them for 'therapeutic'. Many of them say yes - there is a percentage of guys who only want therapeutic, they don't want either to be nude, are not interested in mutual touch and don't want release. I can't believe some clients have such restraint with a handsome muscle guy working on them, and available to offer just about anything at all. (When I say this out loud, the masseur usually chuckles and says, 'YOU can't believe it ? How do you think I feel ?'). Some have confessed the guy on their table is hot as well, and would love for them to allow more inter-action in the appointment.

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WOW ! I'm getting confused myself now with this thread on what clients are looking for in sensual vs. erotic. I don't want to craw through older threads on the forum, so my quick question is - what is expected between both the masseur and client for each ? I always thought that if I wanted a massage where both of us are nude, I can touch him (upper legs, abdomen, chest, dick, ass) and get a 'happy ending' by him, then I need to book 'erotic'. So on this list, what is not included in 'sensual' ? Thanks for replies in advance.

I've been saying this at work (I work in a behavioral health facility) 'around the water-cooler' for the past few days. There's something 'not right' with her and her reactions. The husband was fifty, worth millions and probably worth even more dead when she cashes in his life insurance policy.

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You're a true gentleman, and being too kind. The comparison was beyond 'poor taste'. Comparing his prices/services to that of a veterinarian performing life-saving skills on a beloved, helpless animal is in the realm of insanity.

He wasn't into acting (though he had the looks, don't know about the talent or interest), he went for film-making / film-production. Some day I'll see him pick up an Oscar for his work, and I'll remember the huge cock and great ass. He was one of the younger few who wasn't tattooed everywhere, too.

Really ? You find a guy who needs to take his helpless dog to the vet (probably for emergency services) and spend up to $1,000 as 'amusing' ? As a pet owner who would do anything for my dog, I can assure you 'amusing' is not what it is. And you want to compare yourself and your fees to the vet visit ? You have that kind of undeserved self-importance ? It's time you found a new line of work. This really is no longer for you.

I remember meeting an escort online who lived in a dorm not too far from the hotel I would stay in when I visited Manhattan (he was actually in walking distance to my hotel). He was a young, handsome, muscled 20-something who was a college student who had his first class at 9:30 on Monday mornings. He would get to my room around 6 am, and arrive in his 'pajamas', with his clothes in his back pack. I'd leave the door unlocked for him, and I'd stay in bed. He'd come in, and crawl into bed with me. Right away he'd get an erection, pull off his bottoms, and show me his 'morning wood' (as though he was sleeping next to me the whole night). I'd bottom him with my morning wood, while he'd shoot his load all over me. It was the perfect teacher / student fantasy we both got into. When we were through, I'd order room service for breakfast while the two of us hit the shower and have more fun with each other. We'd have breakfast in bed, then he'd get dressed and go off to class (he was just as sexy dressed for the day). This went on for a couple of semesters, and I remember he was a film major. One of the hottest young men I ever met, and would book every time I was out there. I was sad when he told me he was done with school, and he was moving to LA to start a career in movies. (This was around 2018). I never stayed in touch with him, but I hope he's living his dream.

Once again, a client is mistaking a 'hire' as his 'friend' and 'potential love interest'. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG !

Nope. (And I didn't mention the lip ring at all).

I don't know if I would say 'cheated', more 'disappointed'. I paid him for what he delivered - a sensual massage, not an erotic massage for whatever reasons he had. If I go to a restaurant and order a $25 turkey dinner, and the server brings me a $12 turkey sandwich instead because they sold out of turkey dinners, I'm disappointed - not cheated. And I'm not paying $25 for the sandwich just because I originally ordered the dinner. Doesn't make sense. And I don't think the server would expect me to do so. So if he's a 'professional' I should expect he would realize he's getting paid for a 'sensual' massage since he couldn't deliver the 'erotic' massage.

I think with the lip ring and the band aid, it just set he whole appointment off kilter. I couldn't wait for it to end.

Last night, one of my favorite masseurs was in town, so I made an appointment with him. This was probably the fourth or fifth visit in the past two years. I always book erotic with him for $225. Being my birthday this weekend, I wanted to treat myself to a great erotic massage with a lot of interaction, which this guy always provided. When I showed up at his hotel room, I noticed he now had a pierced bottom lip which looked 'odd' on him (he's in his 30s, and it just threw his looks off). Also, he had a bandaid on his penis. I asked him what happened and he said he cut himself shaving earlier that day. Not only did that take away from the aesthetic of his beautiful cock, but I realized it was going to be impossible to masturbate him (as I always do as part of the erotic component, while he finishes me off). I mentioned this to him, and he just laughed. Funny thing is, I wonder if he just stuck that on him for me not to touch him, or he really did 'cut himself'. So overall, the massage was a good therapeutic with some sensual elements and a happy ending. When it came time to pay with Venmo, I said out loud 'You charge $170 for a sensual massage, correct ?' I took him off-guard, he said something with a laugh, and I Venmoed him $170. He didn't say anything. I think this was my last time with him - 2025 is around the corner, and it's time I 'cleaned house' and look for some new masseurs.

Here's where I am really confused, so I will ask the question: As a sex worker, how and why are you actually 'consulting' your client ? What problem is the client presenting to you, which you will give professional advice on how to solve it, and how (in some detail) you plan to reach that goal of solving it for him ? That's why I'm saying the wording of 'consultation' is being tossed around like confetti by providers. I'm guessing (again, 'guessing' - not assuming or accusing) they may think it makes them sound more 'professional' or 'respected' as a businessman, but they are using this word incorrectly. I would also guess that if a client is having a sexual problem, they would probably consult with a sex therapist to solve the problem (and that would come with a free consultation of presenting the problem and the plan to solve it) before going to a sex provider to solve the problem.

I don't think some of the providers are using 'consultation fees' correctly. What exactly are they 'consulting' the potential client about ? Answering simple questions about the service one provides is not consulting. I know many professionals in the service industry offer consultations for their services (and the consultation is usually to determine whether you need their specialty service or not), and those consultations are (for the most part) free. The professional (re: lawyer, surgeon, dentist, hairstylist, financial investor, mechanic, caterer, dress designer, home remodeler, tutor, etc.) will sit down with the potential client and consult the client on their specific need, what the client's goal is, what the professional can offer to reach that goal (if anything), what the process will involve, what the time frame looks like, and what the hourly fee / final cost will be. The client / professional then usually will reach a decision at the end of the consultation on whether they should move further (and sign an agreement with everything they discussed detailed), or they decide the professional's service is not needed. This is usually less than an hour, and done as a courtesy by the professional. If I should call a lawyer and ask whether he practices real estate law, how much he charges per hour, where he's located, etc. and he answers those questions, that's not considered a 'consultation'. That's called answering questions about his business, and also done for free.

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