Midtownguy99

I concur that Leo is a fantastic kisser. When I inquired about Leo's connection with Gabriel, he mentioned they occasionally travel for work, yet he also travels with other friends on different occasions. 

Regarding their relationship, the fact is they're simply friends, which explains why they don't collaborate professionally. It would be a steamy interaction if they ever crossed that friendship boundary…

Did this ever get up and running?

Bringing this back in honor of Pride this weekend. 

44 reviews on his RM profile and we still can’t figure it out if this lad is the real deal? 
 

10 hours ago, dutchal said:

The rentmasseur reviews are now mostly $400 for 60 minutes (although one for $250) and $550-600 for 90.

Gabriel is the crème de la crème of this industry. He is unmatched. There have only been a small handful of guys in this category and he’s one of them. 

I’ve never met him but had a terrible impression via text. We never even got to the point of setting up an appointment. Not a match for me. 

8 hours ago, Italiano said:

Such a hot guy and great masseur, but (with me) he behaved very weird.

PM me. Sorry you had a bizarre experience with him 

30 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

I don’t travel though so my circumstances don’t really require deposits. On the rare occasion a client fails to show up without a reasonable explanation then I report them and I block their number. 

The providers I’m referring to are the ones who travel and have airfare and lodging overhead to account for. If one client that agrees to meet them, doesn’t show up, that will make a significant difference on the bottom line of their trip. 

Unfortunately this happens more often than it should and it’s difficult for the provider to brush it off or make up for it in the little time they’re in the city. 

Since you’re in your hometown, you pay your rent regardless so there’s not much of a need for a deposit. 

25 minutes ago, Milo Janus said:

Yes!  Waaay back in 1990 in San Francisco.  I saw this very tall 'guido' type from New York.  I forget his name, he had an ace bandage on one leg.  He asked to be paid upfront, which I naively obliged and then we started with my sucking his cock.  Then he started this, "let's go over here . . ." we move to a new spot, the again, "let's go over here," and again and again.  Finally, I had enough, stood up and went to get my money he left on a dresser when the threatened to throw me through a wall!  (I knew he wouldn't, it was his place.)  Sadly, he was very intimidating, tall and strong so I left without my money!!  The only way I could get back at him was when I'd see his ad in the B.A.R. rag I would call him and tell me he's not wanted in this town.  No one will hire him . . . blah blah . . . (I used a landline at the time.)  

I think the reviews help more today. For instance, if that same experience happened today, you can leave an accurate review accounting your experience. And since escorts don’t want their reputation tarnished, they won’t pull something like what you experienced because that review will reflect on their profile. Of course this doesn’t go for all of them, but I think it helps. 

13 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

And the answers:

1: don’t do it

2: don’t do it

3: don’t do it

4: do it (please 🙂).

 

I only do #3 if a provider is traveling to my city and they have a limited schedule and I’ve checked their profile out, looked at reviews, chatted with other clients who have left them reviews etc. But you as a provider, discourage deposits? 

1 minute ago, MikeBiDude said:

I don’t do deposits myself. Tried it a few times…never worked to my advantage, providers no-showed.

Did they have only positive reviews? Did you chat with other clients who vouched for them etc? 

On 12/17/2022 at 1:26 PM, Jamie21 said:

All sorts of different things might be included in BF experience. I once went shopping with a guy, that was his definition of BF experience, he just wanted to buy some clothes and have me advise him on what looked good (Although I don’t profess to be a fashion expert!). In the end he bought me more stuff than he did for himself. Afterwards we went back to his hotel and used the pool and gym. Then back to his room where he ordered room service. We ate and chilled out together for a while, I gave him a massage on the bed (happy end style lol) and that was it. He really enjoyed the whole day, it was much more than a sexual experience. 

That sounds like a very typical date for me. Was I the client? 😂

21 minutes ago, 7829V said:

You clearly have a type 🤪

Guilty as charged. But there’s more to both masseurs than just looks. 

Just now, azdr0710 said:

Top Three Forum Topics.....Ever:

1. complaining about provider rates

2. is hiring a "straight" provider ok?

3. paying an upfront deposit or not

 

 

What’s your take on #3?

14 minutes ago, dbar123 said:

There have been two instances that I’ve paid deposits…. Both times I regretted it. In each case the provider bowed out at the last minute and changed the appointment for another day. If I didn’t have money committed I would have bailed each time. 

Those are not good providers IMO. 

4 minutes ago, Milo Janus said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the client pay for all travel expenses like airfare, food, etc? 

I've heard where someone paid the airfare for a provider to fly in - and the provider never showed, yet kept the plane ticket to use another time.

If the provider is specifically flying in to meet that client, then yes the provider needs to pay for all expenses. I personally cover all travel expenses and gifts. 
 

But I was referring to if a provider already has a city on their travel schedule, for example NYC January 4-8 and I want to make an appointment with them when they are visiting, then I will pay a deposit to secure my time with them. 

10 minutes ago, caramelsub said:

I have heard of providers who have been cheated by clients. 

It seems as though it’s getting worse, from what my regular providers have mentioned to me. 

What do you suggest as a safety net to traveling providers who have several clients who cancel last minute? 

3 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Correct. And I never do.

Do you hire providers who travel or who are based in your home city? Have you ever cancelled an appointment with short notice on a traveling provider? 

My top two picks of 2022

https://rentmasseur.com/LuisNYC

https://rentmasseur.com/LeoMillan

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Paying upfront is a scam 90% of the time and clueless providers 10% of the time. You decide your chances.

This is your assumption and this is not accurate. I travel a lot and see a lot of providers who travel and when we arrange an appointment it’s usually done before the day of. If we both have a limited schedule and want to secure time together, I will agree to paying a deposit. 
 

Think about it like this: if a provider is coming to your city and paying expenses upfront such as airfare and accommodations and I book a four hour appointment with said provider, that’s requesting they block off a chunk of his schedule and no other clients can book during that time. For both of us to feel secure, I will offer to pay that deposit. 
 

Of course, this is after I’ve done my research and have assurance the provider won’t run off with my money. 
 

If you are skeptical on paying a deposit, then that provider is not one you want to see. I’ve had several of my providers mention time wasters and other clients who book appointments and cancel without notice and then the provider can’t fill that gap in his schedule. If they only have a few days in that city, one appointment can make a significant difference. 

On 12/5/2022 at 10:45 PM, rustyrex said:

Hey all,

it’s been a while since I posted but I just contacted an old provider to meet up and he and I couldn’t get our schedules to work.  He asked me for $100 because he’s struggling.  Is this the new norm?  I kinda want to help but I’m also not an ATM. We’ve only met once before and while we had a good time I think asking for $100 is a little much.  I was about to suggest a compromise of maybe pics or a video chat but I’m not sure if that’s even a good idea?  What would you do?

I do agree if you do send the money it will most likely be a recurring experience. If you’re in the financial state to wanting to spoil or help a hot young guy out then do it. If you aren’t the don’t do it. There are providers that I will spoil and send money to for a variety of reasons. 

1 hour ago, MikeBiDude said:

That’s a most unusual paradigm. I’d guess you’re in a minority of clients who compensate ahead like that.

This is only for providers who travel to my city. If they text me and say they are planning a visit and only have a few days here, I absolutely will pay a deposit to secure my time with them. It’s not always 100%, but the point is deposits need to be paid especially with several clients cancelling without notice when the providers are paying so much in travel costs and depending on making the money from appointments that we book. I always put myself in their shoes and have the most respect for what these guys do. 

My rule of thumb. If there is a quality provider I know I want to meet I will contact him for an appointment and pay a 50% deposit of the appointment time. No questions asked. This puts us both at ease. He knows he will be taken care of with me paying him, and I know I will get the confirmed time that works best for me. 

Once I’ve met the provider, I will pay 100% of their fee when booking the next appointment. This works best for me and any provider I’ve hired. It seems like a win win for both parties, I’m not sure why all clients don’t follow suit. 

Are these fees you all are quoting current (2022)? Not from 2019 or several years ago. Covid changed a lot of things. Several smoldering hot guys that I never thought would be for rent began escorting during the pandemic. The price for everything went up, as did several of the provider’s fees. From what I’ve seen $400 per hour is the norm currently. 
 

My game has changed since the pandemic and I don’t hire several different providers so often like I used to. I’m more selective and have my set guys that I will happily spoil instead of spreading myself so thin on hourly appointments with anyone that checks a box or two. 
 

I’ve seen several clients on the forums really complaining about the discrepancy between $300 and $400. Is it that serious to throw a fit or will that make not wanting to hire a provider because you solely base your experience on what you used to pay 3 or more years ago?