LGBT Rights In Guatemala

[+ Avalon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Guatemala

 

This says homosexuality has been legal in Guatemala since 1871. Could this be typos for 1971?

[marylander1940]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Guatemala

 

This says homosexuality has been legal in Guatemala since 1871. Could this be typos for 1971?

 

I don't know about this specific case. Surprisingly (or not) catholic countries have been more advanced and less hypocritical when it comes tot the relationship between private life/morality, and the law.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Guatemala

 

This says homosexuality has been legal in Guatemala since 1871. Could this be typos for 1971?

No, many countries have decriminalised homosexuality very early. In France it was in 1791.

 

An interesting part of the logic was not that it was ok, but rather, that every time you had a scandal of homosexuals in court on trial, it would make the news and cause a lot of gossiping, which would “promote homosexuality”. So not arresting homosexuals and not giving them a voice when their lawyer would defend them against accusations of sodomy, was helping the government to keep the existence of homosexuality under wraps. Young men wouldn’t hear about it, and so wouldn’t be tempted as much.

 

Not sure if it was efficient, but at least they had realised that there was no punishment you could invent that would completely eradicate homosexual behavior.

[Walker1]

Not sure if it was efficient, but at least they had realised that there was no punishment you could invent that would completely eradicate homosexual behavior

Yup, in the middle east they are throwing gays off buildings and there still are gays there. It is what it is, I fear our country is going down the opposite track with drugs and gays and other victimless crimes.

Edited April 15, 2018 by Walker1

[+ Keith30309]

Surprisingly (or not) catholic countries have been more advanced and less hypocritical when it comes tot the relationship between private life/morality, and the law.

Yes... I would be very, very surprised to hear that. My perception of history has been that Catholic theocracies have generally been fairly doctrinaire and rigid in imposition of Church law on its citizens. I suppose it's all relative.

[JayCeeKy]

My perception of history has been that Catholic theocracies have generally been fairly doctrinaire and rigid

 

Seems like the most sexually permissive countries (France, Italy, South American countries) have been countries where the Catholic Church is strong, whereas those countries with a strong "Protestant ethic" like the USA are often the most uptight. It reminds me of what a Catholic priest once told me about Catholic laws and regulations: The Romans make the rules, the Americans are the ones who follow them.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

Yes... I would be very, very surprised to hear that. My perception of history has been that Catholic theocracies have generally been fairly doctrinaire and rigid in imposition of Church law on its citizens. I suppose it's all relative.

I don't think the countries' main religion (between Protestant and Catholic I mean, of course Muslim countries are awful to us) had that that much influence.

For example for gay marriage: it started in highly protestant countries (like The Netherlands) but then catholic Spain had gay marriage many years before mostly protestant Germany. In Canada, Catholic Quebec was ready before other, mostly protestant provinces, and more mixed denomination countries like Australia and the US were very late.

But at the same time, very Catholic Italy still does not have gay marriage.

So I don't think there is much of a consistent pattern between catholic and protestant countries, with regards to giving gays some rights.

Edited April 15, 2018 by Tarte Gogo

[marylander1940]

Yes... I would be very, very surprised to hear that. My perception of history has been that Catholic theocracies have generally been fairly doctrinaire and rigid in imposition of Church law on its citizens. I suppose it's all relative.

 

Not when it comes to the bedroom, segregation, etc. and that's the point of the thread started by the OP.

 

Don't get mad but... the fact that you are truly surprised by this shows the fact that you never bought as valid some of the lessons on negative stereotypes and projections about Catholics at least.

Edited April 15, 2018 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

Seems like the most sexually permissive countries (France, Italy, South American countries) have been countries where the Catholic Church is strong, whereas those countries with a strong "Protestant ethic" like the USA are often the most uptight. It reminds me of what a Catholic priest once told me about Catholic laws and regulations: The Romans make the rules, the Americans are the ones who follow them.

 

Exactly!

 

Illegal prostitution is an American phenomena pushing an activity underground and putting more women at risk of rape, etc.

[+ Keith30309]

Not when it comes to the bedroom, segregation, etc. and that's the point of the thread started by the OP.

 

Don't get mad but... the fact that you are truly surprised by this shows the fact that you never bought as valid some of the lessons on negative stereotypes and projections about Catholics at least.

 

OK