+ Avalon Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Usually if they are paying taxes they are paying into SS as well. There might be some ways to avoid it but I am not an accountant. So there will be a retirement although there will be a gap between when they stop escorting and when they can collect SS benefits.
Kevin Slater Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 In know escorts pay taxes but do they pay into Social Security? Any sole proprietor pays self-employment tax, which means social security and medicare. Kevin Slater + Avalon 1
+ Avalon Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Any sole proprietor pays self-employment tax, which means social security and medicare. Kevin Slater Good!
jjkrkwood Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Any sole proprietor pays self-employment tax, which means social security and medicare. Kevin Slater Dont worry, Trump will gut those too ! john1973 1
FTM Zachary Prince Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) I do know that RM shows 274 pages of Rentmen. I do know that ~71% of them are under 30. ~23% are 30-39 and ~6% are over 40. Seeing who is advertising is not a good way to judge who is working successfully. As I’ve mentioned, most older escorts no longer need to advertise. Their regular clients and regular income are SET. That’s living the dream, not struggling. Escorts often stop escorting at an older age due to burnout, social stigma, and a host of other reasons that have nothing to do with a lack of demand for older escorts. No ones arguing against plan B, C, or D at any age. But any young escort who believes that their value relies on their youth is choosing to give weight to a toxic and ultimately false idea that will undoubtedly turn into a self-fulfilling prophesy for their own business. If you refuse to provide your clients with some value besides your youth, smooth face & hard body then I guess they really won’t have any reason to keep hiring you once you get older. If you’re offering something valuable that goes beyond that then the demand for your services will never stop. That’s just the way it is, and anyone who chooses to believe otherwise is deluding themselves. Feel free tho if you want... it’s your life and your career! And any client who says otherwise is merely projecting his own biases about the escorts he hires onto the entire market. I’m sure that most (not all) of the guys who frequent RentMen and this board might be interested in younger guys. The whole scene where older escorts who don’t have to advertise are connecting with long-time regulars who are extremely loyal to them is pretty far removed from RM, review boards & discussion forums, as you may or may not be able to imagine. Edited February 4, 2018 by FTM Zachary Prince Kevin Slater, Populist Fury, + pitman and 1 other 4
Bargara Leatherboy Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I am 57 and rarely look at a provider under 30 years old. My fav go to guys are in their 40's and they are amazing . A 70 yr old who knows how to work a bod would still get hired by me + GregM, Montyd and + freecahill1965 3
+ tassojunior Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation.
+ freecahill1965 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Seeing who is advertising is not a good way to judge who is working successfully. As I’ve mentioned, most older escorts no longer need to advertise. Their regular clients and regular income are SET. That’s living the dream, not struggling. Escorts often stop escorting at an older age due to burnout, social stigma, and a host of other reasons that have nothing to do with a lack of demand for older escorts. No ones arguing against plan B, C, or D at any age. But any young escort who believes that their value relies on their youth is choosing to give weight to a toxic and ultimately false idea that will undoubtedly turn into a self-fulfilling prophesy for their own business. If you refuse to provide your clients with some value besides your youth, smooth face & hard body then I guess they really won’t have any reason to keep hiring you once you get older. If you’re offering something valuable that goes beyond that then the demand for your services will never stop. That’s just the way it is, and anyone who chooses to believe otherwise is deluding themselves. Feel free tho if you want... it’s your life and your career! And any client who says otherwise is merely projecting his own biases about the escorts he hires onto the entire market. I’m sure that most (not all) of the guys who frequent RentMen and this board might be interested in younger guys. The whole scene where older escorts who don’t have to advertise are connecting with long-time regulars who are extremely loyal to them is pretty far removed from RM, review boards & discussion forums, as you may or may not be able to imagine. I do not disagree with the logic of your words. BUT I disagree with your interpretation of Dominiking's words and intent of his post.
FTM Zachary Prince Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) I do not disagree with the logic of your words. BUT I disagree with your interpretation of Dominiking's words and intent of his post. Don’t know him personally and thus have made zero comments about the intent of his post. As for “interpretation of his words” I guess we all have to interpret what anyone is saying and I really don’t think I misinterpreted. His sentiments are pretty clear about becoming less desirable as age advances. That’s simply not true, and I’m debating that very clear point. Again no comment about his intentions or why he thinks this. Simply not my place to speculate. Hopefully Dominiking doesn’t feel like I’m attacking him personally. A lot of escorts share this incorrect idea... I hear it from a lot of mouths and it directly contradicts all the real-world evidence I’ve seen from older providers. I’ve been researching the market from the inside for over five years. Edited February 4, 2018 by FTM Zachary Prince escortrod and + José Soplanucas 2
Kevin Slater Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I’ve been researching the market from the inside for over five years. Among other tings. Kevin Slater FTM Zachary Prince 1
Kevin Slater Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation. Wow. Wrong on every point you make. Kevin Slater FTM Zachary Prince, + BenjaminNicholas, MikeBiDude and 3 others 6
+ freecahill1965 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Don’t know him personally and thus have made zero comments about the intent of his post. As for “interpretation of his words” I guess we all have to interpret what anyone is saying and I really don’t think I misinterpreted. His sentiments are pretty clear about becoming less desirable as age advances. That’s simply not true, and I’m debating that very clear point. Again no comment about his intentions or why he thinks this. Simply not my place to speculate. Hopefully Dominiking doesn’t feel like I’m attacking him personally. A lot of escorts share this incorrect idea... I hear it from a lot of mouths and it directly contradicts all the real-world evidence I’ve seen from older providers. I’ve been researching the market from the inside for over five years. Again, I respect you opinion, but I will have to agree to disagree on your interpretation. Great thing about the forum is we all can have our own opinions.
+ freecahill1965 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation. Wow. Wrong on every point you make. Kevin Slater I have to agree with Kevin. I am not sure that one can generlize such horrific circumstance. Again, going by the RM data which by others words is not a total indicator, there are some people who escort sucessfully for decades and make a sucessful living. What you describe is true for many who do not even escort. I would venture to guess their poor descisions during their escort years brought them to their circumstance not their escorting.
+ tassojunior Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen.
MikeBiDude Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation. So wrong minded and not even factual + freecahill1965 1
MikeBiDude Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen. Love me my negative newbies + pitman, Kevin Slater, + BenjaminNicholas and 1 other 4
+ freecahill1965 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen. Wow! This is your opinion I suppose. I can clearly interpret this as a negative sterotype of yours regarding escorts. Unless you have data to support such a statement, it is very unfair to say even if was true. I will even go as far as to say it is mean spirited. I am not an escort and I am taking back by such unkindess. The forum is about sharing. It is not about making unqualified statements that maybe hurtful or unkind to others. Edited February 4, 2018 by freecahill1965
+ freecahill1965 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen. After reviewing the Bureau of Justice Statistics I can say your are WRONG. From the latest data posted, there were 251,521 arrests per week reported. Of those arrests only 914 are classified as arrested related to prositiution and commercialised vice. There are well over 2000 escorts on RM. You are not even close on your unfactual statement in being right. By the way, there are about 11,207,000 arrests a year in the US only 0.4% of those arrests are related to prositiution and commercialised vice. Just saying. Edited February 4, 2018 by freecahill1965 MikeBiDude 1
+ tassojunior Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 After reviewing the Bureau of Justice Statistics I can say your are WRONG. From the latest data posted, there were 251,521 arrests per week reported. Of those arrests only 914 are classified as arrested related to prositiution and commercialised vice. There are well over 2000 escorts on RM. You are not even close on your unfactual statement in being right. By the way, there are about 11,207,000 arrests a year in the US only 0.4% of those arrests are related to prositiution and commercialised vice. Just saying. No one said arrested for prostitution . No, our dearest and best tend more toward arrests for murder, rape, beating up spouses/children/girlfriends/boyfriends. It does seem to be a more frequent occurrence with the gay-for-pay guys than gay escorts. And maybe gay escorts use their connections better to move up in life. That would make sense. But at least the GFP's rarely do and end up back in poor conditions they came from, just older and less pretty.
MikeBiDude Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 No one said arrested for prostitution . No, our dearest and best tend more toward arrests for murder, rape, beating up spouses/children/girlfriends/boyfriends. It does seem to be a more frequent occurrence with the gay-for-pay guys than gay escorts. And maybe gay escorts use their connections better to move up in life. That would make sense. But at least the GFP's rarely do and end up back in poor conditions they came from, just older and less pretty. Cite your sources...?
+ tassojunior Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Cite your sources...? If someone hasn't been under a rock the past few years they've read in gay publications of so many of the top guys being charged with murder. Google it yourself. I think there are gay sites that collect it and plenty of gay sites regularly have the stories
+ VictorPowers Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 All this plan B talk and you'd think someone was pregnant. + GregM, + Tarte Gogo, FTM Zachary Prince and 2 others 5
+ freecahill1965 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 All this plan B talk and you'd think someone was pregnant. I love you sense of humor. Thank you!
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) If someone hasn't been under a rock the past few years they've read in gay publications of so many of the top guys being charged with murder. Google it yourself. I think there are gay sites that collect it and plenty of gay sites regularly have the stories He asked you for sources. He's still waiting. You keep changing your argument to suit your now-deflated original post. Top guys? No. Bit players, yes. 'Dearest and best' aren't the guys who use their limited porn scenes to hustle out an hour or two when the end of the month rolls around. Edited February 4, 2018 by Benjamin_Nicholas + freecahill1965 1
jjkrkwood Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Personally, I hope when they retire, they'll come over for Brunch.... (you listening Benjamin ?) + BenjaminNicholas 1
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