extended time pricing

[MikeyGMin]

What is the difference between a hustler and an escort? The terms are synonymous to many.

They aren't to me. I don't consider "hustler" as pejorative either. It's just a description of a different style. More of a wheel and deal kind of approach.

 

For instance, when this particular hottie was in Austin last year for 2 weeks, I saw him a couple times. We stayed in touch and texted almost everyday about simple things. Where he could stay. What he could do. How lame the Austin market can sometimes be for escorts. He was always friendly and flirtatious.

 

At the end of the trip he said that he really really wanted to spend the final night with me. I'm not stupid. He knows I'm not stupid. I know that he knows that I'm not stupid. He was hustling a bit to try to make the trip successful. It also relieved him of the final night of hotel expense.

 

I told him that I couldn't afford such a luxury (not true and he knows it) so he came back with an amount just slightly above his two hour rate. (Because "He really wanted to spend the night with me." ) I agreed and we had a great night together. He cooked for me, we drank tequila and just had a good time in and out of the bedroom.

 

He hustled that last overnight but he completely delivered a great time. If he had not, then he would be a scammer not a hustler, and that obviously is a pejorative.

 

Just the way I look at it. Others will have different interpretations and different uses of the word I'm sure.

[Rudynate]

They aren't to me. I don't consider "hustler" as pejorative either. It's just a description of a different style. More of a wheel and deal kind of approach.

 

For instance, when this particular hottie was in Austin last year for 2 weeks, I saw him a couple times. We stayed in touch and texted almost everyday about simple things. Where he could stay. What he could do. How lame the Austin market can sometimes be for escorts. He was always friendly and flirtatious.

 

At the end of the trip he said that he really really wanted to spend the final night with me. I'm not stupid. He knows I'm not stupid. I know that he knows that I'm not stupid. He was hustling a bit to try to make the trip successful. It also relieved him of the final night of hotel expense.

 

I told him that I couldn't afford such a luxury (not true and he knows it) so he came back with an amount just slightly above his two hour rate. (Because "He really wanted to spend the night with me." ) I agreed and we had a great night together. He cooked for me, we drank tequila and just had a good time in and out of the bedroom.

 

He hustled that last overnight but he completely delivered a great time. If he had not, then he would be a scammer not a hustler, and that obviously is a pejorative.

 

Just the way I look at it. Others will have different interpretations and different uses of the word I'm sure.

 

 

I think you're conflating various uses of the word. In certain settings, a hustler is sort of a shark or an agrresive wheeler dealer, like a pushy used car salesman.

 

A hustler can also be somebody who is resourceful and willing to work hard.

 

Within the world of male sex work, "hustler" is simply an unflattering label for a male sex worker. It harks back to the days when young gay men who offered sex for money cruised certain neighborhoods and any young man hanging out in these locales was assumed to be a hustler.

 

Today's escorts, back then, would have been called "high-class hustlers."

[MikeyGMin]

I think you're conflating various uses of the word. In certain settings, a hustler is sort of a shark or an agrresive wheeler dealer, like a pushy used car salesman.

 

A hustler can also be somebody who is resourceful and willing to work hard.

 

Within the world of male sex work, "hustler" is simply an unflattering label for a male sex worker. It harks back to the days when young gay men who offered sex for money cruised certain neighborhoods and any young man hanging out in these locales was assumed to be a hustler.

 

Today's escorts, back then, would have been called "high-class hustlers."

I'm well aware of how the word was once used. I do not agree that just because "escort" was coined and is commonly used today, it makes "hustler" a pejorative. You're free to think of it as one. I will continue to use it to mean a male sex worker who wheels and deals more than the average escort, but with no negative implication.

[Rudynate]

I'm well aware of how the word was once used. I do not agree that just because "escort" was coined and is commonly used today, it makes "hustler" a pejorative. You're free to think of it as one. I will continue to use it to mean a male sex worker who wheels and deals more than the average escort, but with no negative implication.

 

 

I never imagined I would convince you otherwise. The post was mostly for the readership at large.

[Strafe13]

Keep your hours. I see those as a buffer in between longer appointments and ONs. Also, the small hour appointments can take a trip with small profit, to a sizeable one.

 

I offer additional hour discounts, and this discussion is making me think I should post that in my ad. I too enjoy the 2-4 hour appointment range. I feel there isn't a sense of being rushed on either end. Plus, both parties gain more of a connection with the longer appointment.

 

Please do post the multi-hour/additional hour discounts in your ad. Many clients, myself included, are looking for such providers, and now that sites like RM won't post rates, asking for those arrangements is an additional hurdle. I don't want to derail this into one of those threads on anxiety about asking for rates. But Im wary of coming across as disrespectful to the escort because asking about discounts for longer sessions can sometimes seem like haggling to lower rates. Plenty of ads indicate that those escorts don't like those kinds of client inquiries, so I'd hate for the escort to think that's what I'm trying to do.

[MikeyGMin]

Please do post the multi-hour/additional hour discounts in your ad. Many clients, myself included, are looking for such providers, and now that sites like RM won't post rates, asking for those arrangements is an additional hurdle. I don't want to derail this into one of those threads on anxiety about asking for rates. But Im wary of coming across as disrespectful to the escort because asking about discounts for longer sessions can sometimes seem like haggling to lower rates. Plenty of ads indicate that those escorts don't like those kinds of client inquiries, so I'd hate for the escort to think that's what I'm trying to do.

May I suggest that you don't ask about discounts. Just ask them if they have a two or three-hour rate. I am one of those people who is 100% against haggling, but I've always been comfortable asking that question. Just a suggestion.

[+ freecahill1965]

May I suggest that you don't ask about discounts. Just ask them if they have a two or three-hour rate. I am one of those people who is 100% against haggling, but I've always been comfortable asking that question. Just a suggestion.

I like that approach. Thanks

[Strafe13]

May I suggest that you don't ask about discounts. Just ask them if they have a two or three-hour rate. I am one of those people who is 100% against haggling, but I've always been comfortable asking that question. Just a suggestion.

 

Yes, that's a more diplomatic way of asking the same question. In the past I've used the terms multi-hour rates, additional hour discounts, and perhaps other variations, but it was all to acquire the same information. I'll just stick to multi-hour rates from now on, in the hope that it makes a difference. Thanks for the tip.

 

I actually saw an ad once (a few years back) where an escort derided questions about multi-hour rates, saying something to the effect of "its standard hourly rate X times Y number of hours." I have no problem at all with escorts who don't do multi-hour rates/discounts, but that guy seemed clearly offended by such inquiries. At least his disclosure of that in the ad allowed clients to avoid the awkwardness of such an exchange.

Edited December 31, 2017 by Strafe13

[coriolis888]

 

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A hustler can also be somebody who is resourceful and willing to work hard.

 

Within the world of male sex work, "hustler" is simply an unflattering label for a male sex worker. It harks back to the days when young gay men who offered sex for money cruised certain neighborhoods and any young man hanging out in these locales was assumed to be a hustler.

 

Today's escorts, back then, would have been called "high-class hustlers."

 

 

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

William Shakespeare

[desertguy1954]

I usually hire for at lest two hours. So when making the first contact, I ask what there rates are for 2 hrs or more. I have found, that the longer the time requested the "better" the rates. That lets me know if I would like to continue the conversation. If the price is not within my range, I thank them for their time and move on. I never tell them that I feel their prices are to high. Only if they ask me why I did not want to meet I will tell him. I do not haggle over prices. There are always great guys out there to choose from

[+ VictorPowers]

Please do post the multi-hour/additional hour discounts in your ad. Many clients, myself included, are looking for such providers, and now that sites like RM won't post rates, asking for those arrangements is an additional hurdle. I don't want to derail this into one of those threads on anxiety about asking for rates. But Im wary of coming across as disrespectful to the escort because asking about discounts for longer sessions can sometimes seem like haggling to lower rates. Plenty of ads indicate that those escorts don't like those kinds of client inquiries, so I'd hate for the escort to think that's what I'm trying to do.

Since my original reply, it states I provide multi hour rates:D