Traveling: Why is it that more and more clients can't host?

[marylander1940]

where do ya’ll find such shady ‘scorts?

 

Yikes!

 

BP...?

 

The more appropriate question in this case would be: Where the hell did you find a young man ( I suppose he was young because he was an escort) who smokes?

[marylander1940]

Post ads in city. People start contacting, but then when it comes to schedule sessions...they can't host? Then, they don't understand I have to ask for deposit because otherwise I'm paying for a hotel on the speculation that they'll show up.

 

It's problematic because I've only have between 3 pm and 11 am to use a hotel room. It's not like I'll have a full 24 hours. If they don't or can't show up between those times, I'm left having to pay again for a room to accomodate them.

 

Not everyone travels the same. Some fly into a city with hotels pre booked, others may drive across several cities getting clients along the way. It seems like people have an unrealistic assumption that we are all there, booked into a hotel with no advance appointments or just see our ad and assume we're waiting in a hotel somewhere. I don't mind hosting or getting the hotel, but I need a guarantee they'll show up.

 

It's like when I was in Atlanta the other Thursday. I had went ahead and booked a nice hotel with a king sized bed and Jacuzzi but didn't have any clients over. I can't do that city to city to city. Eventually people need to either be able to host or be willing to get a hotel themselves if they can't. It places too much of the burden on me to be required to host and pay for a hotel (and lose the money if they can't show up...which is 50% likely to happen).

 

The thing people don't understand too is (again, it comes down to explaining logistics which people always say, "oh I didn't know you were coming from...) I don't need a hotel room in every city. If I'm planning to go from point A to point B and go through 2 or 3 cities over the course of a couple days, I belong to a nationwide but small 24 hour accessible gym. They're in virtually every city and state I've traveled to, even in the Podunk towns. I can take a private shower and some have private "quiet rooms" to sleep for a couple hours until it's time to get going again.

 

I don't have to mention the cost of hotels to know, it adds up fast. Then, most only want to book an hour, that takes away 30-50% of the fee off the first client. Some towns you're only getting 1 maybe 2 clients each hotel night. With many clients being unable to host (and for some reason not having many contacting from hotels either), it's like the whole sightseein experience of being able to travel city to city and seeing clients along the way is becoming less worth the money and time being put into it.

 

Don't you "canvass" a city collecting emails/cellphones to realize if it's worth it going there?

 

Here in DC hotels are expensive but you can always use priceline, besides is pretty seasonal and prices go up and down. I'm sure the same happens with most large cities.

[MikeBiDude]

I wasn't charged for smoking - thank goodness the escort did not smoke. Some high end hotels charge $250.00 for violating their non smoking rules.

Yes that was the charge...$250

[KennF]

If you are taking out a hotel room for someone else (or letting them stay), the way to handle it is to arrange for the payment of the room charges in advance. If you want to let them stay for a day or two extra, that's fine as well.

 

When he arrives, he should put a credit card on file for incidentals.

 

At least that's how I arrange it for people we bring in for business, whether they are customers, suppliers, or interviewees.

 

Just a thought.

[LaffingBear]

Pick the towels up off the floor. The maids will appreciate it along with a generous tip left on the bed.

 

Off topic I know ....

In west, many hotels have discrete signs due to ongoing drought conditions. Some variation of:

 

"Help us conserve water. Please hang up towels you will re-use; leave towels to replace on floor."

I comply, but leave towels to be replaced on tub rim.

[+ DERRIK]

Guys. I typically get a room when I hire and it is not unusual that I don't need to room after he and I finish our appointment

 

However, I would be afraid to let the escort have my room afterwards. His buying room service/mini bar is a small risk. The big risk in my mind that he keeps the room - later someone get assaulted or worse and the room is in my name.

[LaffingBear]

If you are taking out a hotel room for someone else (or letting them stay), the way to handle it is to arrange for the payment of the room charges in advance. If you want to let them stay for a day or two extra, that's fine as well.

 

When he arrives, he should put a credit card on file for incidentals.

 

At least that's how I arrange it for people we bring in for business, whether they are customers, suppliers, or interviewees.

 

Just a thought.

I am familiar with that arrangement when a 3rd party pays, but doesn't check into the room himself.

 

I dont know a hotel that will let you in without credit card on file. Therefore, I doubt one could checkin without the host and rentguy. I suppose you both could stop at the desk when one leaves, closing out the credit card and having the remaining party provide a new card. Seems rather cumbersome and awkward.

 

Personally, I wouldnt let a rentguy remain beyond my departure.

 

Also, I'm extraordinarily, situationally, cheap. I wouldn't flinch at taking an escort out for a very expensive meal, or to buy us overpriced snacks in some gourmet shop. I've bought escorts clothes/gifts if we're out shopping. But I might faint if my guest incurred a $7.50 charge for a Nestle Crunch from the mini-bar. 35 years of travel, often business travel at the expense of my employer or client, or complimentary stays at casinos, I have never once ordered a pay-per-view movie. There are never incidental charges on my folio for items I believe to be a rip-off. (Except BS resort fees, which are a blatant scam)

[KennF]

@LaffingBear The credit card is on file, however, it is limited to room rate only, in a prepaid format. When the 3rd party arrives (in this case the escort), he is required to check in and either use his credit card (or cash deposit) for incidentals (like the mini bar, smoking, etc...).

 

I've never had a situation where my card was charged for anything more than the room rate. I know some of them have had incidental charges.

 

It is more difficult when the person arriving isn't the one I originally had on file, but in those cases, as long as I give authorization while they are checking in, things have gone smoothly.

 

It's really just prepaying for the reservation, since the person still has to go through check-in procedures.

[LaffingBear]

@LaffingBear The credit card is on file, however, it is limited to room rate only, in a prepaid format. When the 3rd party arrives (in this case the escort), he is required to check in and either use his credit card (or cash deposit) for incidentals (like the mini bar, smoking, etc...).

 

I've never had a situation where my card was charged for anything more than the room rate. I know some of them have had incidental charges.

 

It is more difficult when the person arriving isn't the one I originally had on file, but in those cases, as long as I give authorization while they are checking in, things have gone smoothly.

 

It's really just prepaying for the reservation, since the person still has to go through check-in procedures.

I understand that. But I'm guessing that, in the situation you describe, you aren't the first person to check-in, take occupancy of the room. And, perhaps you never really occupy that room at all.

 

I'm skeptical that any hotel would let you prepay the room, but take occupancy, without a credit card on file for incidentals

 

For your solution to work, you could prepay the room on your credit card, but you'd need to have the escort check in first, or at least concurrent with you, and use his credit card for incidentals.

[MikeBiDude]

I understand that. But I'm guessing that, in the situation you describe, you aren't the first person to check-in, take occupancy of the room. And, perhaps you never really occupy that room at all.

 

I'm skeptical that any hotel would let you prepay the room, but take occupancy, without a credit card on file for incidentals

 

For your solution to work, you could prepay the room on your credit card, but you'd need to have the escort check in first, or at least concurrent with you, and use his credit card for incidentals.

I’m skeptical as well, it’s pretty obvious that even with your credit card “limited to room rate only” it’s a risk.

 

So escort checks into to the room that’s been prepaid, used his credit card on check in. Trashes room, gluttons the minibar. Leaves, and disputes charges on his credit card, or used bogus credit card (so easy), guess whose card/name will be hit next by the hotel???

[coriolis888]

BP...?

 

The more appropriate question in this case would be: Where the hell did you find a young man ( I suppose he was young because he was an escort) who smokes?

 

 

I am puzzled - here is a quote from my post:

 

"I wasn't charged for smoking - thank goodness the escort did not smoke. Some high end hotels charge $250.00 for violating their non smoking rules."

 

What made you think that the escort smokes?

 

And, no, he was not from BP. Rentmen seems to be the website of choice lately.

[coriolis888]

 

where do ya’ll find such shady ‘scorts?

 

Yikes!

 

 

On rentmen.eu

 

Lots of them are available.

 

Many are good but some are not.

[coriolis888]

 

If you are taking out a hotel room for someone else (or letting them stay), the way to handle it is to arrange for the payment of the room charges in advance. If you want to let them stay for a day or two extra, that's fine as well.

 

When he arrives, he should put a credit card on file for incidentals.

 

 

When dealing with escorts, not many of them have a credit card. Therefore, your suggestion will not work in the discussed situation. Even if a hotel payment is made in advance, any extra "incidental charges" are added to the bill and the person who rented the room is obligated to pay.

 

If we rent a room for a rendezvous and allow an escort to use the room for the duration of the rental after we leave, we are stuck with the bill and all charges made by the person allowed to stay in the room.

[marylander1940]

I am puzzled - here is a quote from my post:

 

"I wasn't charged for smoking - thank goodness the escort did not smoke. Some high end hotels charge $250.00 for violating their non smoking rules."

 

What made you think that the escort smokes?

 

And, no, he was not from BP. Rentmen seems to be the website of choice lately.

 

It wasn't a reply to.... @coriolis888 you aren't even the OP of this thread, you just told a story I was quoting @OliverSaks when he talked about shady escorts.

 

I should have said: shady? Try finding someone who fucking smokes now a days, I was a weirdo when I was young because I didn't smoke then, NOW who the hell smokes.

 

I didn't even quote you on that one, cause that happened to @MikeBiDude

 

and @latbear4blk I didn't say that escort smokes... read again.

 

This was my reply to you, after you hired the non smoking escort.

 

First of all, thank you for sharing such a personal story.

 

I hate you engage in Monday quarterbacking... but unless you knew him for a long time you were pretty naïve.

 

Did you review him?

Please review him (if you haven't done it already).

Edited December 29, 2017 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

When dealing with escorts, not many of them have a credit card. Therefore, your suggestion will not work in the discussed situation. Even if a hotel payment is made in advance, any extra "incidental charges" are added to the bill and the person who rented the room is obligated to pay.

 

If we rent a room for a rendezvous and allow an escort to use the room for the duration of the rental after we leave, we are stuck with the bill and all charges made by the person allowed to stay in the room.

 

Any person over 21 years old who says he doesn't have a CC is lying or he needs to get one...

 

You can always hire someone who has a place to host and if he doesn't just move on to the next ad.

 

For God sakes, talking about making life complicated... get a room at a Travelodge, meet the guy, say goodbye to him after or ask him to get a room, go to HIS room, pay him the night charge and his fee, and leave.

Edited December 29, 2017 by marylander1940

[coriolis888]

 

Any person over 21 years old who says he doesn't have a CC is lying or he needs to get one...

 

 

I hope you really don't believe this. Some people have lousy credit and cannot get a credit card. Or, they do not have a work history and/or sufficient assets to get a credit card.

 

 

You can always hire someone who has a place to host and if he doesn't just move on to the next ad.

 

 

We all have our different methods of meeting escorts. I certainly would not tell you how to find an escort.

 

For God sakes, talking about making life complicated... get a room at a Travelodge, meet the guy, say goodbye to him after or ask him to get a room, go to HIS room, pay him the night charge and his fee, and leave.

 

 

For God's sake? Again, we all have our own methods. I would never think of telling you how and where to find an escort. Your method is your method, not mine.

Edited December 29, 2017 by coriolis888

[MikeBiDude]

Any person over 21 years old who says he doesn't have a CC is lying or he needs to get one...

Ummmm, that’s not true

[+ José Soplanucas]

Any person over 21 years old who says he doesn't have a CC is lying or he needs to get one...

 

That is definitely not true.

[marylander1940]

Ummmm, that’s not true

 

That is definitely not true.

 

Sorry but usually the young men I hire or the ones who are members of my family do this thing called: "having your shit together/road map/plan" and they all have accounts to pay for college or other expenses and sooner or later get a secured CC.

 

My youngest hire ever was 23, I never asked him if he had CC to be honest.

[marylander1940]

 

For God's sake? Again, we all have our own methods. I would never think of telling you how and where to find an escort. Your method is your method, not mine.

 

Thank you for quoting me on subject this time, and as I said before thank you for telling us such a personal story about an escort taking advantage of your good faith.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Sorry but usually the young men I hire or the ones who are members of my family do this thing called: "having your shit together/road map/plan" and they all have accounts to pay for college or other expenses and sooner or later get a secured CC.

 

My youngest hire ever was 23, I never asked him if he had CC to be honest.

 

And you think that as the few people you know "have their shit together/road map/plan" , they are the measurement for everyone else. Perhaps you need to go out and mingle with reality.

[marylander1940]

And you think that as the few people you know "have their shit together/road map/plan" , they are the measurement for everyone else. Perhaps you need to go out and mingle with reality.

 

I never thought having a CC would be such an accomplishment to anybody with Social Security number that belongs to them.

 

My bad.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I never thought having a CC would be such an accomplishment to anybody with Social Security number that belongs to them.

 

My bad.

 

As I said, you need to go out and mingle. Many Americans of all ages, not only younger ones, do not have a credit card. Many.

[marylander1940]

As I said, you need to go out and mingle. Many Americans of all ages, not only younger ones, do not have a credit card. Many.

 

[Larstrup]

Whew....