"It Gets Better...Unless You are Fat"

[Zman]

I do lots of walking. I walk to the bakery. I walk to McDonalds. I walk to 711.

[+ Gar1eth]

It's as simple as taking a walk. That's exercise. Surely walking doesn't give you a headache?

Hurts my feet, and I get winded.

 

Gman

[caliguy]

Hurts my feet, and I get winded.

 

Gman

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[Ajac]

Basically I have been up and down weight wise all my life. I am currently heavy again. Having had a trainer and knowledge of nutrition I find having a strict routine of diet and exercise is usually what has gotten me to the goal. But all it takes is one week of working 16 hour days and it all goes out the window. Then you slide into the holidays

, then you get depressed because you aren't hung to your knees. So there are so many factors to our weight issues,all you can do is try your best and be as happy as you can. I swear I have one more thin in me before I die, of course after I die I will be thin again but what fun is that.

[Xavitv]

genetics can be such a bitch tho. Being hwp doesn't help much if you are in the oompa lompa range. Pocket gays need love too other than the regular face to chest hugs

[down_to_business]

I'm gonna get a hella buncha hate mail for this AND dozens of excuses, but...

 

Being overweight is generally "fixable". In most cases (note that I said most), the fix is simple math. Calories burned > Calories absorbed.

ie.. run (or walk) around the block one more time and eat smarter.

 

Generalize much?

 

Mike Pence would argue being gay is fixable too. Pray away the gay. Simple enough? Are you not praying hard enough? Maybe you aren't praying smart enough? Maybe you are praying wrong? Maybe I can set you up with the right conversion therapy coach?

[+ Gar1eth]

genetics can be such a bitch tho. Being hwp doesn't help much if you are in the oompa lompa range. Pocket gays need love too other than the regular face to chest hugs

I love ❤️ pocket gays.

 

Gman

[Zman]

I was kinda disappointed when I was thin. Didn't really make much difference.

[+ quoththeraven]

They did a study on some of the Biggest Loser contestants who gained back weight, taking them into the lab and getting their complete caloric intake and expenditure. They found that one of the guys who got back up to around 300 was consuming 900 calories a day LESS than they expected based on his weight. When you work out more, your heart becomes so much more efficient that you burn fewer calories at rest. And when you hit a certain weight level your body does fight to return to it.

Didn't they all gain back weight?

 

Also, yo-yo dieting (losing weight and putting it back on) is harder on the body than remaining at a steady weight.

[+ quoththeraven]

It's as simple as taking a walk. That's exercise. Surely walking doesn't give you a headache?

Some people (like me) can only walk a short distance before their muscles hurt (me) or they are out of breath (not me).

 

In other words, existing medical conditions can be limiting factors.

[+ OliverSaks]

I would be more than happy to live with someone for a week or two in March or late February and be in charge of meals (vegan plant-based) and fitness (at your level) and see what happens to LDL/Triglycerides/weight/fasting blood glucose in that time - I would do this for a super reasonable rate, if anyone is interested in something like this, PM me - it would be a part of a research project for my professional degree.

 

 

@FreshFluff Leptin is rarely low in obese individuals. Generally, they may acquire a decreased sensitivity to it over time with greater than normal levels.

 

"Plant-Pure Nation" on Netflix:

It could change your life! Check out the China Study also (google it)

 

Swimming is an excellent aerobic exercise that is zero impact. I suggest it to a lot of my patients with a number of comorbid conditions that limit more traditional exercise methods (recumbent bikes are great too)

[Zman]

Has anyone tried fat freezing?

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/freezing-fat-whats-beauty-144511857.html

[Nvr2Thick]

Ever see this post, which went viral some time ago?

 

NG

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/it-gets-better-unless-youre-fat?utm_term=.eqjmPlj1a#.ycPJmP0ND

 

I can remember in the '80s and '90s when the bear movement got co-opted by porn. I had a great conversation with a couple of guys I met at the Lone Star Saloon in SF. A few were of the consensus that ten or so years prior there was this great, welcoming movement where overweight and average/normal gay guys could come together without the body shaming of the clone bars and dance clubs. Then the whole thing got fetishized and marketed to the point where you had to be a hugely built hairy musclebear, and into leather.

[+ Funguy]

There's also that finding about large amounts of internal fat surrounding the organs of some skinny people. Has that held up on further study?

 

Gman

 

Yes, but what i said above still holds!

[+ Funguy]

Hurts my feet, and I get winded.

 

Gman

 

GET ORTHOTICS! And start small - build up to 5+ miles SLOWLY. The only reason I accept is bad knees or hips - then get 'em fixed!! It's worth your life!

[+ Funguy]

Has anyone tried fat freezing?

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/freezing-fat-whats-beauty-144511857.html

 

You just put it right back on elsewhere if you aren't extra careful! And it is not for total weight reduction - more for the cosmetics and spot eliminations.

[N13]

I do lots of walking. I walk to the bakery. I walk to McDonalds. I walk to 711.

 

LOL

[Zman]

You just put it right back on elsewhere if you aren't extra careful! And it is not for total weight reduction - more for the cosmetics and spot eliminations.

Yes I've read that it takes relatively few inches off. So it's not as dramatic a fat loss as one might hope.

I see signs for the treatment all over LA. But I wonder if the people who benefit most are basically people already thin who just want to get rid of some "trouble" spots.

[jvanchicago]

I think a lot of this discussion has missed the point of what the article says.

 

As a poster earlier stated, sure it's simple math. Sure, weight can be changed. But the article was stating that overweight people are treated as less then, that their weight needs to be changed to be worthy. Not just worthy of sex, or love, but just overall worth. And when one of the first posts on here is "Weight can be changed," it misses the point completely. Why does it need to be changed? Because you don't find an overweight person attractive, because you don't want to sleep with them, you feel it is your duty to give advice? Treat them poorly because they don't meet your standard?

 

The author of the article was right. When coming out, it gets better. For a minute. And then your new "gay family," the one that welcomes you out of the closet, judge and belittle you for your size. But that's okay, because you can just lose the weight, amiright?

[+ FreshFluff]

Has anyone tried fat freezing?

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/freezing-fat-whats-beauty-144511857.html

 

So a quick Google turns up a rare but scary side effect: Instead of freezing the fat cells in the area, the procedure can multiply (!) them. Can you imagine?

 

Myla Bennett, M.D., a plastic surgeon and owner of the Ederra Bella Plastic Surgery and Medical Spa, in Johns Creek, Ga., says she has performed hundreds of CoolSculpting cases. Among those, two of her CoolSculpting patients had post-treatment paradoxical adipose hyperplasia.

 

“That’s where the patient will actually get a reverse reaction. Instead of fat reduction, they actually end up with more fat cells in that area. It happens more commonly in men than women, and there’s really nothing you can do to prevent it or even know if somebody is at risk for it,” Dr. Bennett says. Dr. Bennett says she is not aware of the complication arising from other types of fat removal or reduction approaches.

 

 

Researchers reported on the side effect in March 2014 in JAMA Dermatology, documenting a case of a man in his 40s who underwent a single cycle of cryolipolysis to his abdomen and developed a large subcutaneous mass in the months following treatment.

 

 

“Paradoxical adipose hyperplasia is a rare, previously unreported adverse effect of cryolipolysis with an incidence of 0.0051%. No single unifying risk factor has been identified. The phenomenon seems to be more common in male patients undergoing cryolipolysis. At this time, there is no evidence of spontaneous resolution,” according to the study’s abstract.

[+ quoththeraven]

I would be more than happy to live with someone for a week or two in March or late February and be in charge of meals (vegan plant-based) and fitness (at your level) and see what happens to LDL/Triglycerides/weight/fasting blood glucose in that time - I would do this for a super reasonable rate, if anyone is interested in something like this, PM me - it would be a part of a research project for my professional degree.

 

 

@FreshFluff Leptin is rarely low in obese individuals. Generally, they may acquire a decreased sensitivity to it over time with greater than normal levels.

 

"Plant-Pure Nation" on Netflix:

It could change your life! Check out the China Study also (google it)

 

Swimming is an excellent aerobic exercise that is zero impact. I suggest it to a lot of my patients with a number of comorbid conditions that limit more traditional exercise methods (recumbent bikes are great too)

1. I enjoy eating omnivorously.

2. Anyone who wants me to eat vegan can pay for and prepare it.

3. I love swimming, but not only is there a time element involved (getting ready and getting dry can take as much time as I can swim without rest), it's not free. It also has downsides like stinging eyes due to chlorine and water in the ears that will bother me for days. (Among other things, I have Meniere's.)

 

I realize this is meant well, but each one of us knows our own bodies and medical condition better than others on the forum do.

[Zman]

So a quick Google turns up a rare but scary side effect: Instead of freezing the fat cells in the area, the procedure can multiply (!) them. Can you imagine?

 

Myla Bennett, M.D., a plastic surgeon and owner of the Ederra Bella Plastic Surgery and Medical Spa, in Johns Creek, Ga., says she has performed hundreds of CoolSculpting cases. Among those, two of her CoolSculpting patients had post-treatment paradoxical adipose hyperplasia.

 

“That’s where the patient will actually get a reverse reaction. Instead of fat reduction, they actually end up with more fat cells in that area. It happens more commonly in men than women, and there’s really nothing you can do to prevent it or even know if somebody is at risk for it,” Dr. Bennett says. Dr. Bennett says she is not aware of the complication arising from other types of fat removal or reduction approaches.

 

 

Researchers reported on the side effect in March 2014 in JAMA Dermatology, documenting a case of a man in his 40s who underwent a single cycle of cryolipolysis to his abdomen and developed a large subcutaneous mass in the months following treatment.

 

 

“Paradoxical adipose hyperplasia is a rare, previously unreported adverse effect of cryolipolysis with an incidence of 0.0051%. No single unifying risk factor has been identified. The phenomenon seems to be more common in male patients undergoing cryolipolysis. At this time, there is no evidence of spontaneous resolution,” according to the study’s abstract.

 

Ugh! And Murphy's Law says I'd be one of these super rare people.

[+ sniper]

The amount of actual weight Cool Sculpting destroys is about an ounce or two per treatment. It's not viable as a weight loss regimen for people who need to lose many pounds.

[+ WmClarke]

and I hate exercise.

Me, too. But I go to the gym 5 times a week. No endorphin rush and yet I still go....

 

 

It's as simple as taking a walk. That's exercise. Surely walking doesn't give you a headache?

Hurts my feet, and I get winded.

Me, too, when I first started. Get some shoes with good support. The pain will fade, and probably fairly quickly. Start with a small distance (say 4 city blocks or the equivalent). Every week, lengthen the walk.

 

Unless your legs literally don't work, you can do this.

[Ajac]

Unfortunately there is no magic quick fix. In addition the change in our metabolism as we get older makes it all that much harder. Even when I had a 32 inch waist I didn't see myself as a thin person. Everyone has their self image issues. I have given up on the concept of esthetics and just want to be as healthy as I can. We are drawn to beautiful people which is why it is nice that we can spend time (even for a fee ) living out our fantasies. Everyone is judged on some level even the most beautiful. So do what you can to change what bothers you and accept what you can't or choose not to. Life is very short, all we can do is enjoy it as much as we can while here.