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If one chooses to use Rentmen as the only source for finding and hiring escorts, it's just silly to whine about the rates. There are plenty of other sources available to find hot guys at significantly lower rates.

 

Please PM me an let me know the alternative sources.

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Discuss rates all you want on this forum or elsewhere. As I and others mentioned above, rates charged are whatever the traffic will allow. If an escort charges more than the market will allow, he will not get many clients. It's that simple.

 

Also, there are target markets. An escort charging $500 per hour and up may be targeting wealthy clients who will book him into 5 star hotels, take him to elegant restaurants and otherwise drop cash and gifts on him. Liberace was never short of cash nor are Russian or Saudi billionaires. Top dollar escorts may be looking for a sugar daddy for the long term. If you are not part of that particular market, then you are not--neither am I. There are people who will pay $50 for a hamburger, $25 for a gin and tonic and $2000 per night for a hotel room. The rich are always with us. And, some people are just plain foolish. If a coat, a hotel, a restaurant, a haircut, an automobile or an escort is more than you can afford, or simply more that you are willing to pay, then you don't purchase that commodity. There are plenty of lower priced quality goods and services available. And prices go up over time--big surprise. One used to be able to hire a first class escort in New York for $100 circa 1980. That escort is now $300. Whether they are worth that is for you to decide. Is a ride on a NYC subway worth $2.75?--I remember when it was 35 cents.

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One used to be able to hire a first class escort in New York for $100 circa 1980. That escort is now $300. Whether they are worth that is for you to decide. Is a ride on a NYC subway worth $2.75?--I remember when it was 35 cents.

According to the following website $100 in 1980 equates to $291 today, so it seems that NYC rates are rising roughly in line with inflation.

 

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

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And reduces the escort to a commodity. I know the experience is transactional, but I don't think commodification benefits either party.

Exactly. My half-decade on the analyst's couch was transactional, but the farthest thing from a commodity.

 

http://www.alternet.org/files/story_images/1024px-sigmund_freud_1926-edited.jpg

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Discuss rates all you want on this forum or elsewhere. As I and others mentioned above, rates charged are whatever the traffic will allow. If an escort charges more than the market will allow, he will not get many clients. It's that simple.

 

Also, there are target markets. An escort charging $500 per hour and up may be targeting wealthy clients who will book him into 5 star hotels, take him to elegant restaurants and otherwise drop cash and gifts on him. Liberace was never short of cash nor are Russian or Saudi billionaires. Top dollar escorts may be looking for a sugar daddy for the long term. If you are not part of that particular market, then you are not--neither am I. There are people who will pay $50 for a hamburger, $25 for a gin and tonic and $2000 per night for a hotel room. The rich are always with us. And, some people are just plain foolish. If a coat, a hotel, a restaurant, a haircut, an automobile or an escort is more than you can afford, or simply more that you are willing to pay, then you don't purchase that commodity. There are plenty of lower priced quality goods and services available. And prices go up over time--big surprise. One used to be able to hire a first class escort in New York for $100 circa 1980. That escort is now $300. Whether they are worth that is for you to decide. Is a ride on a NYC subway worth $2.75?--I remember when it was 35 cents.

When I see an escort with a rate that appears to be "more than the market will allow," I assume that perhaps he doesn't want that many clients. Maybe he has a day job that pays well, and escorting is just a side gig. If he's going to spend his precious free time escorting, then it better be worth it, hence the high rate. That or the escort has some sort of charm that escapes my eye.

 

Unless you're lucky enough to have snagged a rent-stabilized apartment, inflation in NYC has gone up far more than the national average because the cost of real estate has skyrocketed since 1980. Back in 1985, my uncle really wanted to buy a townhouse in the West Village for $800K, which seemed like an enormous sum at the time, but couldn't quite swing it. That same townhouse today would be worth $12-15 million. If the standard escort rate was $100 in 1980 while most of today's working guys charge $300, then rates are lagging well behind the rate of NYC inflation.

 

On the subject of sugar babies, recently while waiting to get into a show, I started talking to the couple behind me. The woman was older and clearly had money. The man was not only young, trim & fit, and drop-dead gorgeous, he was also very polished and well-educated. Although my gaydar's not the best, even I could tell he was gayer than Richard Simmons (but in a painfully refined way). Although they were holding hands, it came off as just a gesture because you couldn't sense any connection between them. Somewhat incongruous with the passionless hand-holding, the woman made it a point to mention "my husband and I" quite a few times during our brief conversation. After we parted ways, I couldn't help but think, "Dude, I hope you are making bank off this deal." Bright as he was, I'm pretty sure he did :)

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You got me to "like" a post with Sigmund's dour mug. You owe me for that, Mr. Smith!:p:D:p

I can't imagine anything in the world I could do that would be sufficient repayment. :rolleyes:

 

My analyst was a post-Freudian who trained under one Heinz Kohut, progenitor of a branch termed self psychology. Extraordinarily realistic and productive approach to psychodynamics of the self, in my experience.

 

Its central move away from Freud was to strongly de-emphasize drive theory in favor of much higher privileging of the analysand's capacity for willed, chosen self-change through self-comprehension. That is, it recognizes much more power in our ability to apply free will -- once we become able to constructively do so in light of new, more accurate, objective and realistic self-understanding gained with the analyst's help -- to change ourselves than Freud did.

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I can't imagine anything in the world I could do that would be sufficient repayment. :rolleyes:

 

My analyst was a post-Freudian who trained under one Heinz Kohut, progenitor of a branch termed self psychology. Extraordinarily realistic and productive approach to psychodynamics of the self, in my experience.

 

Its central move away from Freud was to strongly de-emphasize drive theory in favor of much higher privileging of the analysand's capacity for willed, chosen self-change through self-comprehension. That is, it recognizes much more power in our ability to apply free will -- once we become able to constructively do so in light of new, more accurate, objective and realistic self-understanding gained with the analyst's help -- to change ourselves than Freud did.

 

You're certainly welcome to try!

 

What you describe sounds like therapy with a Freudian foundation that in the end moves closer to cognitive behavioral therapy. My problem is with the Freudian foundation, which I consider mostly rotten, the relative uselessness of the initial part of the analysis for those of us who are already self-reflective, and the emphasis on analysis over therapy. Stories of people in analysis for years and some of the frankly ridiculous harping that the answer to everything is in our childhood and gaining insight from that don't help.

 

I'm sure there are people for whom CBT isn't helpful, or who need more direction from their therapist or counselor than psychotherapy or analysis typically provide. If analysis is helpful, doesn't last forever, and is affordable, that's great, but it is the most time-consuming alternative, yet has no better track record and is not based on the results of scientific studies.

 

If I may be so nosy, how long were you in analysis? Don't share if you don't want to, but this can be your repayment.

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You're certainly welcome to try!

 

What you describe sounds like therapy with a Freudian foundation that in the end moves closer to cognitive behavioral therapy. My problem is with the Freudian foundation, which I consider mostly rotten, the relative uselessness of the initial part of the analysis for those of us who are already self-reflective, and the emphasis on analysis over therapy. Stories of people in analysis for years and some of the frankly ridiculous harping that the answer to everything is in our childhood and gaining insight from that don't help.

 

I'm sure there are people for whom CBT isn't helpful, or who need more direction from their therapist or counselor than psychotherapy or analysis typically provide. If analysis is helpful, doesn't last forever, and is affordable, that's great, but it is the most time-consuming alternative, yet has no better track record and is not based on the results of scientific studies.

 

If I may be so nosy, how long were you in analysis? Don't share if you don't want to, but this can be your repayment.

A half-decade, as stated a couple of posts up. Then twice-weekly psychotherapy with a different person (a psychologist) for four years.

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For anyone interested in a quick and dirty look into major therapeutic modalities, the podcast, "Invisibilia," gives a concise and simplified version interwoven with a couple pretty compelling narratives (that is, the first episode specifically "a secret history of thoughts."

 

http://www.npr.org/programs/invisibilia/375927143/the-secret-history-of-thoughts

 

I hope to practice as a third waver, but I can imagine the other forms being useful for the right type of patients.

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A half-decade, as stated a couple of posts up. Then twice-weekly psychotherapy with a different person (a psychologist) for four years.

 

Thank you! Sorry. I thought you'd mentioned it, but then I couldn't find it.

 

Nine years is a long time. Although I've been through couples counseling (CBT with a woman and when my husband never listened to her, therapy with a man; both were psychologists, not psychiatrists) and a handful (maybe ten?) sessions on my own with a psychiatrist who was more of a therapist than an analyst, all the progress I made was on my own, supplemented by reading. None of the therapy was helpful.

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