Is 5K enough to offer a straight guy for muscle worship?

[jjkrkwood]

If you're talking about 5K for a YEAR of worship, sure OK.... If you meant for a single session, Go take a nap, you'll come to your senses when you wake up....

[jawjateck]

Gosh...this sounds lucrative! For 5k, I could fly a gorgeous stud to your door, pay him handsomely, and pocket a nominal finder's fee.

 

<<<<<Reaching for my lil black book>>>>>>

[+ FreshFluff]

Gosh...this sounds lucrative! For 5k, I could fly a gorgeous stud to your door, pay him handsomely, and pocket a nominal finder's fee.

 

<<<<<Reaching for my lil black book>>>>>>

 

The catch is that he has to be totally straight and appear rather shocked by this request.

[traxton]

Why don't you ask him whether he's willing to do body worship, then if he says yes ask him to name a price. For all you know, he'd be willing to do it for much less than $5k.

 

By the way $5K for body worship, heck even $300 for it, is ludicrous. It's idiots like you who drive up the market rate.

[jjkrkwood]

The catch is that he has to be totally straight and appear rather shocked by this request.

 

Is ANYONE really 100% straight ?

[LADoug1]

5k for how much time?

[greatnorthernp]

Hey guys. Title pretty much says it all. I'd like to ask a straight guy (mid-20's, not an escort) for a strictly muscle worship experience. Also, is there a less creepy way of saying muscle worship? It sounds so subservient and pervy; I'm concerned the name alone might turn him off if he's not familiar with it.

 

Call it "private posing" to begin with.

 

Actually, don't begin with any mention of private posing.

 

First, compliment the guy's hard work...that's super neutral, respectful, and acknowledges that it takes hard work. (It does take work.) Make sure you don't mention how good looking the results are at first--that should come second. His hard work is all about him. How he looks to you starts involving you and your perceptions, a secondary issue to him. He does all that work for his own reasons, reasons that you are not party to.

 

Work compliments about his appearance in next, but link them to specifics, e.g., "Great biceps! Do you do a lot of preacher curls?", etc. Gym denizens love to talk gym talk. If he's good looking from the neck up, don't mention it...yet...wait until you meet, if you get that far.

 

If he responds, proceed with "Have you ever competed?" Either "yes" or "no" is fine. If no, "You should!"; if yes, "I hope you won!". This introduces the notion of posing. Wait for a response.

 

If you get a response, you haven't scared him off.

 

Next, the big question. If he has competed, ask "Have you ever done private posing?" This reveals what you really want. (Really, it does, unless he's dumber than a rack of dumbbells, at which point you have a big decision.) If he hasn't, tell him he'd look really great on stage...then ask if he'd be interested in "Private posing sessions, just for practice...".

 

If he gets back to you, you're almost there. If not, drop it; he knows what's up and wants no part of it.

 

Let's say he's kind of interested. Now come the follow up questions: "May I touch? May I oil you up? May I...?", and, lastly, "Would you be interested in a posing fee?". Of course, he might bring up a posing fee, in which case he's already dreaming of what to do with the money.

 

Your next steps are merely logistical if the answer is "Yes". How far...how much...where...when...etc.

 

You've got to demonstrate that you're not a freak who will put him in danger, that you respect him and his hard work, and that he'll come out ahead in some way by meeting up with you. Money may be a secondary issue, after all he might be perfect comfortable financially.

 

It's a kind of seductive dance.

 

$5000 is rather generous in the face of what's available:

 

https://rent.men/thegamechanger

 

Good luck.

[jjkrkwood]

Let's be REAL for a moment here. For me, having a guy flex and bulge in my face just heightens my desire to suck his cock and eat out his ass. So, it some other universe where I might spend $500 - $5000 for a session,

he better be feeding me some cock and ass..... It's not about me making HIM feel better about himself, it's about ME feeling good ! Sorry....

[Man Crush Morris]

I used to pay a very straight nonpro and personal trainer $100 for a muscle worship, froting session (he froted me, not the other way around). The guy was absolutely gorgeous and completely delivered for me.

 

I'd say $5000 is way too much.

[TruthBTold]

Of course, the round about presupposes that he has never been asked before and will be shocked when you do. He may already have done it on prior occasions and the two of you may just have to come to some settled amount. I think for muscle worship $5K is way too much. If a guy is actually open to mere touching I bet it would be less than $1K and could be substantially lower depending on much he really needs those supplements.

[nebula]

Call it "private posing" to begin with.

 

$5000 is rather generous in the face of what's available:

 

https://rent.men/thegamechanger

 

Good luck.

 

on point! I highly doubt the guy can have more muscle than lord gamechanger, a 300 lbs ifbb pro muscle monster! 5k is only 1k shy from his 6k weekend rate. but lord gamechanger is open to negotiation, with me anyway.

[jockstr]

By the way $5K for body worship, heck even $300 for it, is ludicrous. It's idiots like you who drive up the market rate.

 

Just to clarify here, I'm well aware that, in most circumstances, 5K is an outrageous amount of money to offer a guy for a simple MW session. I'm not completely deluded. I arrived at that number not because I think it represents market value but because I wanted to replace any doubts or hesitation he might otherwise have with the prospect of easy money, and a lot of it. In other words, make an offer he couldn't refuse. And to be honest, I'm not all that interested in MW as a fetish. I much rather worship other parts of him, but I can't very well say that outright, as it would likely scare him off. I figure I'll cross that bridge if and when we meet up. And if he's clearly uncomfortable with going further, I won't persist.

[jockstr]

To those who keep saying I could find someone else for much less, you're completely missing the point. This is not just some random, interchangeable hot guy. His face and body represent the very summit of my fantasies and desires all coalescing into a perfect storm of eroticism--HE'S MY EVEREST!

[Man Crush Morris]

These days I think a $1,000 offer is one he can't refuse.

 

I'd start with an impressive (but lower than $5,000) amount and work higher if he wants more.

 

Who knows, he might do it for 500. Or $250.

 

Good luck.

[nebula]

To those who keep saying I could find someone else for much less, you're completely missing the point. This is not just some random, interchangeable hot guy. His face and body represent the very summit of my fantasies and desires all coalescing into a perfect storm of eroticism--HE'S MY EVEREST!

that's funny! we will be cheering for you when you climb your everest!

[BaronArtz]

To those who keep saying I could find someone else for much less, you're completely missing the point. This is not just some random, interchangeable hot guy. His face and body represent the very summit of my fantasies and desires all coalescing into a perfect storm of eroticism--HE'S MY EVEREST!

 

Well DO tell us more. Where is he based? Give us a general description. Better still, post a link to his profile. Some of us may have 'been there' ... and can offer you good advice.

[LD19847]

If he has a high profile on social media then the chances are he has had all sorts of requests and images sent to him. A straight personal trainer I know was offered $100 for his used underwear via Facebook (and that's a very tame example).

 

$5,000 is simply way too much (not least if you end up meeting him regularly!) and is bound to make him think you're expecting much more.

 

I would either play it very softly and gradually build up contact or if you want to be direct, be very clear in your request that you're going to respect his boundaries.

[DonaldTramp]

Stop being so cheap...10K minimum!

[+ FreshFluff]

To those who keep saying I could find someone else for much less, you're completely missing the point. This is not just some random, interchangeable hot guy. His face and body represent the very summit of my fantasies and desires all coalescing into a perfect storm of eroticism--HE'S MY EVEREST!

 

I totally get it, jockstr. The downside is that, if he'll do it for $5000 but not for $500, the session may turn out to be less than you had hoped.

[big-n-tall]

Just to clarify here, I'm well aware that, in most circumstances, 5K is an outrageous amount of money to offer a guy for a simple MW session. I'm not completely deluded. I arrived at that number not because I think it represents market value but because I wanted to replace any doubts or hesitation he might otherwise have with the prospect of easy money, and a lot of it. In other words, make an offer he couldn't refuse. And to be honest, I'm not all that interested in MW as a fetish. I much rather worship other parts of him, but I can't very well say that outright, as it would likely scare him off. I figure I'll cross that bridge if and when we meet up. And if he's clearly uncomfortable with going further, I won't persist.

 

So I'm curious... what if this guy accepts your offer. You start and end the session, but you are partially or totally dissatisfied with what went down. Would you be ok with paying 5k then? I don't know your circumstances. However, if you're willing to part with 5k and aren't worried by possible let down... go for it.

 

Although, like others have said, $5000 is mad excessive.

[jockstr]

So I'm curious... what if this guy accepts your offer. You start and end the session, but you are partially or totally dissatisfied with what went down. Would you be ok with paying 5k then? I don't know your circumstances. However, if you're willing to part with 5k and aren't worried by possible let down... go for it.

 

Although, like others have said, $5000 is mad excessive.

 

Depends on how unsatisfying the experience is. If he balks at any physical contact, I'll throw him a couple C-notes for his time and show him the door (politely, of course). Even though my endgame is beyond MW, since I'm reluctant to share that with him prior to meeting, I can't hold it against him if he declines.

[Scorpio]

Depends on how unsatisfying the experience is. If he balks at any physical contact, I'll throw him a couple C-notes for his time and show him the door (politely, of course). Even though my endgame is beyond MW, since I'm reluctant to share that with him prior to meeting, I can't hold it against him if he declines.

 

So basically, you intend to pull the ole "bait and switch"? It isn't any more acceptable coming from the client side. Here's hoping, for his sake, he doesn't take a nibble.

[jockstr]

So basically, you intend to pull the ole "bait and switch"? It isn't any more acceptable coming from the client side. Here's hoping, for his sake, he doesn't take a nibble.

 

Not at all. I would explain upfront what I expect from the experience and that I respect his boundaries. I would still be happy with a strictly MW session. Afterward, if I sense he's more comfortable, I might broach the topic of taking things slightly further. If he says no, that's fine too. I'm not trying to trick him. I just feel that such a discussion is better suited in-person than over social media. On the other hand, if he agrees to physical content beforehand and then reneges when we meet, I think I'm justified in paying him less than the agreed-upon amount. Just my take on things.

[MikeBiDude]

Not at all. I would explain upfront what I expect from the experience and that I respect his boundaries. I would still be happy with a strictly MW session. Afterward, if I sense he's more comfortable, I might broach the topic of taking things slightly further. If he says no, that's fine too. I'm not trying to trick him. I just feel that such a discussion is better suited in-person than over social media. On the other hand, if he agrees to physical content beforehand and then reneges when we meet, I think I'm justified in paying him less than the agreed-upon amount. Just my take on things.

Well @jockstr I had been a bit (silently) supporting you. But now? Although not a "bait and switch" as @Scorpio suggested here, it is starting to sound like a manipulation using big dollar$ as the control.

[+ azdr0710]

honest communication upfront!....see posts 2 and 13 again, among others.......