Bieber a Homophobe ?

[jjkrkwood]

You read it first here Guys... So if you have that Str8 guy fantasy about Bieber , FORGET IT

 

The Sorry singer is reportedly on the shortlist to play a pop star in the coming-of-age movie Uber Girl — but will only play the part if the script gets a rewrite.

 

Specifically, if the film takes out a scene that requires him to do some guy-on-guy stuff!

 

Uber Girl cowriter Pete O'Neill told Page Six:

 

"He won't take the part unless the sex scene with him and one of the male backup dancers is taken out of the final script."

 

Aw c'mon, Biebs! Just suck it up and, well… pretend to suck it up for the cameras!

 

Plenty of romantic trysts over the years clearly suggests the 22-year-old is strictly into the ladies, but starring in a movie requires a little bit of what they call ACTING! (Yes, even from YOU, Justin!)

 

O'Neill also said he'd like to cast Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande and Mad Men actress Kiernan Shipka in the film.

 

So, maybe Selena can dispense some serious acting advice to JB and get him to commit to the role??

 

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[+ Cash4Trash]

His major fan base is teenage girls. At this stage in his career probably the right choice. What he really thinks? Your guess is as good as mine. Pete O'Neil should be ashamed for making contract negotiations public in order to drum up advance publicity. And what about casting a gay actor in the role?

[jjkrkwood]

His major fan base is teenage girls. At this stage in his career probably the right choice. What he really thinks? Your guess is as good as mine. Pete O'Neil should be ashamed for making contract negotiations public in order to drum up advance publicity. And what about casting a gay actor in the role?

 

 

Well I don't think the character is meant to be Gay.... he just dabbles....

[Kenny]

When Will Smith signed on to do "Six Degrees of Separation," director Fred Schepisi begged Smith to do a kissing scene with another man. Smith adamantly refused saying a male kiss would “gross out” his fans. Just your basic homophobia, that.

[jjkrkwood]

When Will Smith signed on to do "Six Degrees of Separation," director Fred Schepisi begged Smith to do a kissing scene with another man. Smith adamantly refused saying a male kiss would “gross out” his fans. Just your basic homophobia, that.

 

In Will's case, it's the worst kept Hollywood secret that he and Jada are both Bi, so a gay scene could have put a lot of credence to that, which he didn't want to deal with.

[+ quoththeraven]

His major fan base is teenage girls. At this stage in his career probably the right choice.

 

There are plenty of teenage girls who would be fine with him making out with a guy. Among other reasons, a guy wouldn't be viewed as competition. Also, millennials or whatever label we're applying to teens theese days are far more open-minded about sexuality and gender expression than earlier generations.

 

(As the parent of a 22 year old who spent her teens reading and writing slash fanfiction, I know whereof I speak.)

[AdamSmith]

There are plenty of teenage girls who would be fine with him making out with a guy. Among other reasons, a guy wouldn't be viewed as competition. Also, millennials or whatever label we're applying to teens theese days are far more open-minded about sexuality and gender expression than earlier generations.

 

(As the parent of a 22 year old who spent her teens reading and writing slash fanfiction, I know whereof I speak.)

Davey Wavey [<=yuck] is explicit that teenage girls are the biggest part of his viewership.

[Kenny]

In Will's case, it's the worst kept Hollywood secret that he and Jada are both Bi, so a gay scene could have put a lot of credence to that, which he didn't want to deal with.

The worst kept secret is actually the widest spread rumor. But who knows? Maybe. (Jada did play a lesbian in the awful remake of "The Women.")

[+ quoththeraven]

Davey Wavey [<=yuck] is explicit that teenage girls are the biggest part of his viewership.

 

Exactly.

 

Davey Wavey doesn't bother me as much as he does you or others around here, but I also haven't watched his recent videos either.

[jjkrkwood]

Exactly.

 

Davey Wavey doesn't bother me as much as he does you or others around here, but I also haven't watched his recent videos either.

 

 

He doesn't bother me if he doesn't TALK !

[+ quoththeraven]

He doesn't bother me if he doesn't TALK !

 

His voice doesn't bother me. If it's what he says that bothers you, I can't help you there.

[+ WilliamM]

There are plenty of teenage girls who would be fine with him making out with a guy. Among other reasons, a guy wouldn't be viewed as competition. Also, millennials or whatever label we're applying to teens theese days are far more open-minded about sexuality and gender expression than earlier generations.

 

Exactly. Gale Harold played a gay character on QAF. All these years later, he still has many female fans who seem to know everything about his personal life and latest project -- to the extent that he has a new project on TV or the stage.

[AdamSmith]

His voice doesn't bother me. If it's what he says that bothers you, I can't help you there.

[bostonman]

Gale Harold played a gay character on QAF. All these years later, he still has many female fans who seem to know everything about his personal life and latest project -- to the extent that he has a new project on TV or the stage.

 

Loved him. I have things I liked about QAF and some things I didn't, but I did enjoy Harold's work a lot.

 

I'm tending to think that it's not necessarily homophobic to not want to do a gay sex scene onscreen. If Bieber were refusing to work with gay actors, that would be a different story. But I'm not wanting to go so far as to say that not being comfortable playing the scene is comparable to hating gay people.

 

A slight tangent, but related to actors' limits - I was involved in a musical once where the script called for one of the men to be nude onstage for one short scene. When it came to callback auditions and the selected few actors we had in mind for the role, we did broach the question with them as to whether they would be comfortable with that scene. (We also said we felt the nudity could be optional - that it wasn't essential to the context of the scene, though it would be a bold statement to make were we to do it.) The actor we were most interested in surprised me (just because I tend to think he's a very attractive guy in his own right, with a good body, and he's always seemed quite comfortable with himself) when he gently but pointedly said "I'm very sorry if this takes me out of the running, but I just can't consider doing a nude scene. I just wouldn't be comfortable." So the director and I talked, and decided that having him in the role far outweighed the importance of the character being nude, and we cast him. And I'm glad we did. And the show worked just fine without the nude moment.

 

But, coming back to the point - I think that we can't always equate what an actor feels comfortable doing onstage/onscreen with what his personal views are in real life.

[+ nycman]

He's not a homophobe.

 

Society is.

 

He just a smart businessman.

 

There's a difference.

[+ Cash4Trash]

Wonder if Peter O'Neil threw this out there to drum up financing? Not the first time a popular performers name is bandied about in the hopes of getting a project greenlit.

Bieber has no defense but to ignore this kind of crap.

[Kippy]

Beiber's a little swish-- I doubt he's ever on top!

 

Peace,

 

Kipp

[sincitymix]

I dunno.. if the script calls for a gay scene, then that is what is in the script. If bieber doesn't want to do that scene, then he should just decline the part. actors shouldn't be able to change a script, especially if its considered an important part of the movie or show just because they don't like what is in it.

[bostonman]

I dunno.. if the script calls for a gay scene, then that is what is in the script. If bieber doesn't want to do that scene, then he should just decline the part. actors shouldn't be able to change a script, especially if its considered an important part of the movie or show just because they don't like what is in it.

 

No.

 

Art is collaboration. I've been a part of enough original theatre projects to know that actors very often have a valid and constructive part in script revisions or other kinds of changes.

 

A good screenwriter (or playwright, or composer, or director, etc) will endeavor to make sure that the actor is comfortable in the role, or that compromises can be made that can be lived with on both "sides." Sometimes there ARE reasons not to make changes, and then the actor has to decide whether the situation is worth the role. But mostly, when you have a room full of professionals that want to end up with a quality product, reasonable changes are usually always negotiable.

 

NOW - if you're doing a revival/remake of a famous piece and the actor objects to something iconic or crucial to the original story, that's probably a different matter (unless the director is purposely going for a new concept). I don't think you can agree to play Oedipus and say that you object to the "insinuations" that he slept with his mother and killed his father, and that you won't do the role unless that's changed. I don't think you can play Macbeth and demand the murders be taken out of the script on moral grounds. I don't think you can accept the role of Louis in Angels In America and try to opt out of the sex scene in the park (with lines like "I want you to fuck me, hurt me, make me bleed, " and later "keep going - infect me - I don't care, I don't care" as they fuck).

 

But when it's a NEW film/play/etc, it's often a different story.

[+ José Soplanucas]

So what is homophobia? I know the more popular meaning is hate for gay people, but a better one in my opinion is fear of homosexuality. Mostly your own. Smart businessman or not, I think he qualifies as a homophobe under this definition.

[+ glennnn]

You are right @latbear4blk. Homophobia and anti gay are probably not the same thing. People with agoraphobia can't really be said to hate open spaces. They hate the fear that open spaces generate. Hatred and fear are related, and are strong motivations, but they are not the same thing.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

He is still relatively young. Perhaps it was filming a sex scene and not the partner that was the problem.

[sincitymix]

No.

 

Art is collaboration. I've been a part of enough original theatre projects to know that actors very often have a valid and constructive part in script revisions or other kinds of changes.

 

A good screenwriter (or playwright, or composer, or director, etc) will endeavor to make sure that the actor is comfortable in the role, or that compromises can be made that can be lived with on both "sides." Sometimes there ARE reasons not to make changes, and then the actor has to decide whether the situation is worth the role. But mostly, when you have a room full of professionals that want to end up with a quality product, reasonable changes are usually always negotiable.

 

NOW - if you're doing a revival/remake of a famous piece and the actor objects to something iconic or crucial to the original story, that's probably a different matter (unless the director is purposely going for a new concept). I don't think you can agree to play Oedipus and say that you object to the "insinuations" that he slept with his mother and killed his father, and that you won't do the role unless that's changed. I don't think you can play Macbeth and demand the murders be taken out of the script on moral grounds. I don't think you can accept the role of Louis in Angels In America and try to opt out of the sex scene in the park (with lines like "I want you to fuck me, hurt me, make me bleed, " and later "keep going - infect me - I don't care, I don't care" as they fuck).

 

But when it's a NEW film/play/etc, it's often a different story.

 

true. however you dont have bibo baggins telling sauron to fly around on a pink pony, otherwise he wont star in the movie.

[+ Cash4Trash]

My last thought (I promise). Decisions like this are not made by the celebrity alone. He is a multi-million dollar corporation and has agents, managers, lawyers, P.R. people, advising every decision - "managing the brand".

Why are we believing Pete O'Neill? So that we can have some fun bashing a celebrity.

[jjkrkwood]

I know I was the OP, but we are really taking this TOO seriously. It was meant to be lighthearted, and in view of all Biebers other bad decisions, thought it would be a good fit here, since I am 100% confident many members have had sexual Fantasies about the kid. (of course, NOT me)..... For me, everything that's entertainment related is for Publicity value. I just thought it was interesting that Bieber wouldn't look at Nick Jonas and see that playing GAY had no adverse effect on his career or reputation.