HB's posting in today's 'Briefs' section...

[Barry]

Well said.

 

Barry

[HotdadENYC]

HooBoy, how bold and provocative of you to post the Txgiving message. I applaud your openness and your resilience in dealing with the "varied" responses you have received to date.

 

While I don't suggest that you ignore any of the responses you get, I would hope that you devote some time to letting your new friend know how much you appreciate his company. The gift of quality time, in my opinion, is a lot more important than we give it credit for.

 

Cultivate your new relationship and take it where you both think it should go. Its a sad thing to sit back and think about what could have or should have been, or to wonder what might have happened if only you had more time.

 

Even if your critics are right, that is, this relationship won't work, you won't know until you try. It never ceases to amaze me, though, how negative, hateful, spiteful people seemed to be blessed with a propensity for foretelling the future and its always bad.

 

Good Luck.

 

hotdad

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

So now i'm crass and superficial, huh? For a second i thought i was genuine, individualistic and an escort who really loves what he does. Silly me, eh? Boy was i wrong~

 

I suppose you also forgot the adjective 'sarcastic' too.

 

Seriously, if you don't like what i have to post, then simply don't read what i write. Take the 'Howard Stern approach' to my postings if they really irk you that much: Just ignore me. While i won't stop posting to this MC or on my weekly blog, you do have the choice to selectively read.

 

Since you've never met me, it's pretty tough for you to judge me based on words alone. I've got solid reviews and a great group of guys who would beg to differ with your opinion. If i was nothing less than the real-deal, someone would have piped in by now and trashed me deservedly in a review. I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but i'm also not keen on being called certain things by newbies who are obviously looking for an axe to grind...

 

On second thought, i can handle being called 'crass.' It's so close to the word 'ass' that it still gets me all hot & bothered

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Guest rohale]

I know there, unfortunately, people out there so

>lacking in self esteem that they pay large sums to rent

>Nicolas's friendship (why don't they go out and make friends

>of their own-- are they so loathsome no one would want to be

>with them without payment?). And I know Nicolas has a right

>to post here just as I do. But that doesn't stop his

>incessant posts from being increasing tiresome.

 

 

It's rather funny that you would say that. At least yesterday I felt that I made a new friend in my life. About twelve hours ago I was waiting for my flight to get me to Mexico City and from there a connecting flight which would take me to Los Angeles late Monday evening. My original flight was running very late and most passengers were definitely walking on egg shells. There was definitely a bit of tension. Anyways the plane takes off one and a half hours later than originally scheduled.

 

I was seated next to a lady who I had never met before in my life. I just asked her off hand what the time was. She pulled out her watch, she couldn't quite figure out the different time zones. I helped her with that. We both got the picture that there was a good chance we would miss our connecting flights in Mexico City. She was smart enough to change her flight arrangements. I was running on time constraints. So I told her where I was going and vice versa. She was on her way from Cabo to Cancun. Her first time to Cancun and I told her of my experiences. She seemed very interested. She asked me my background and we talked about her family history, and she told me how much she would like to travel to Europe. From there we had a three hour non-stop conversation. We talked about our professional careers, our personal lives, how hard it is to plan vacation time. Places we would love to visit. We even talked surfing and sports and she's really knows her stuff. She even knows the company I work for by reputation and I know her organisation also by reputation. She had a lot to say.

 

In a way I was able to help her not worry about her trip to Cancun and she helped not worry about my connecting flight. We really had a great time. Just as we were leaving, instead of giving email addresses, we exchanged cell phone numbers and we parted company. Her flight was later in the night. I ran passed 35 terminals to get my final flight of the day. I just barely made it and I was the last passenger to board the plane. Just before I turned my cell phone off, she had a left a message on my cell telling me how much fun she had. It made me feel very happy and grateful. I know that she is one person I definitely will keep in touch with, no matter hard it will be, I'll make the effort.

 

I love talking to fellow passengers on various flights, I never think about making friends on a plane. Everyone once in a while, sometimes circumstances or karma indicate otherwise. She definitely stood out and I'm grateful for meeting her. I had a really nice relaxing weekend and she really made my day for otherwise could have been a stressful situation. I made a new friend in the weirdest of circumstances and that's the way life is meant to be or at least for me anyways. I have quite a number of friends, it doesn't hurt to have more additional friends in my life.

 

As for Benjamin, like he said take the Howard Stern approach, or do you prefer the Rush Limbaugh approach. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, but then I hope you dont hold a grudge against Benjamin for what he has to stay on the MC, whether you like him or not.

 

Rohale

[mattgunther]

I said your posts were crass and superficial and I think that's an accurate description. Crass is defined as "guided by or indicative of base or materialistic values." Its hard to imagine anything more materialistic than the way you go on and on about your material possessions and luxurious lifestyle.

 

I also said that you were often "spewing contempt" in your postings. The one that starts this thread is a pefect example: you refer to people who disagree with you as "pessimistic shitheads."

 

Its hard to see how you could think of yourself as genuine. You brag about great contacts in the state department but they don't seemed to have enable you to get a visa for hooboy friend. It makes me wonder how much else in your postings is not true.

 

I didn't say anything about you as a person because I have not met you. However, I am not impressed that many people hire you or write good reviews. There are lots of people who think crystal meth is a great thing, there are many others who sing the praises of bareback sex. That does not mean that crystal or barebacking are good things.

 

I do feel bad for people who hire you. Its one thing to hire an escort for an hour or two of sex. But when you need to pay $2000 just to get someone to be your friend for a weekend, that's sad.

 

My hope, for the people who hire you, is that they gain the self esteem that will allow them to go out and make friends who don't need to paid to spend time with them.

[carryover123]

I have made friends in places where I would not expect to and they have been really enjoyable. Unfortunately most of my friends are from the same groups or organizations and we all seem to have similar outlooks and beliefs. I love them dearly, but sometimes like to be with someone who has a different prespective or lookout.

 

When I read Benjamin's posts and messages he did not appear materialistic to me. I read them as adventurous and curious. He seemed to like to try out new things and see different places. His outlook was fresh to me and he had a great attitude. Also, he seemed to genuinely like people and being with people. He seemed open and welcoming to others who were welcoming as well.

 

When I met with him I really enjoyed talking with him and hearing his view on matters. I found his views on life experiences refreshing. Also, he did not want me to pay for things, so I do not think he is as materialistic as some may think. He really seemed to be caring and compassionate towards others, not only me but to clerks in stores and people we came across.

 

My experience with Benjamin was one of friendship and went beyond just meeting up.

 

I am always looking for new friends. As far as self-esteem, on days sometimes my self-esteem takes a beating. That is probably because of my job though, not because I am afraid of meeting people.

 

I guess I am just reading things with a different outlook or have a different mindset. I did really enjoy being with Benjamin and if he can charge a weekend rate for his time and not have any downtime then a lot of people think he is worth it.

 

I'm glad I have a friend in Benjamin.

 

If others disagree that is fine with me as we are all hopefully unique and see things slightly differently. I think thats what makes life interesting. I just do not like personal attacks as I think everyone is worthy of respect as a person.

[giovoni]

Love

 

I havn't been around to see what's been going on since before Thansgiving... I'm sorry to hear that your health has taken a challenging turn but I'm sure that you've had the good sense to find the right hands to take care of you. And if you don't it seems that you now have someone who will make sure of that even if you do not. In any case I join everyone here in wishing you the best in both arenas that have been discussed in the last few days.

 

You've made a huge difference in my life through this MC. If you missed my post on it you can go find it again. Without this forum I'd be headed to a job that my writing skills could get me before I started practicing on here. Even the monsters here give some spice to the MC and probably would be hurting real people with thier ravings if they didn't have this place to vent.

 

I appreciate the concern that some of your friends are no doubt expressing about your new relationship. The hardest thing for someone who loves you to see is you getting hurt in a profound soul searing way, the kind of pain that only lovers can inflict. However, the only thing you can do as I'm sure you know is to let your love burn for each other in a way that will eventually warm the hearts of everyone around you, including those who have been cool to the idea up to now.

 

 

Gio

 

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

To quote HB: Bitter, party of one...

 

This, fortunately, will be my last post in this quite unsavory thread, as it's only taking away from the more important matter of HB's health and well-being. That being said:

 

Others here on the MC have already done a pretty perfect job of pegging just exactly who you are~ a disjointed, arrogant braggart who enjoys dressing up and playing 'doctor' with a rather sloppy 'copy & paste' job. Hand squarely in cookie jar, no?

 

As for my guys and my practices as an escort, i'm QUITE proud of not only who i see, but the relationships i have with all of them as well. While you may find it 'sad' and see it only as 'paying for a friend,' you're quite far from the truth. Whether you're simply a bitter escort in disguise or a lurker who's finally found a way to spew his venom publically, i could honestly care less that you find me 'arrogant' and 'materialistic' as someone like you will never find a place in my group of guys.

 

Truthfully, your postings have only fueled my urge to keep doing well and to stay at the top of my game. Thanks for the inspiration and here's wishing that the eye of karma grants mercy on someone like yourself...

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[VaHawk]

First off, this is not a "rah rah pom pom waving" response as regards Benjamin, and I hope BN doesn't mind my response to your post.

 

>I said your posts were crass and superficial and I think

>that's an accurate description. Crass is defined as "guided

>by or indicative of base or materialistic values." Its hard

>to imagine anything more materialistic than the way you go on

>and on about your material possessions and luxurious

>lifestyle.

 

I can only speak for myself, of course, but I have always found BN's postings to be real and honest. As a matter of fact, it was his postings that led me, to the dismay of many, to register on this site and start posting. BN is to this day, one of the most honest, real, unpretentious, admirable people it has been my pleasure to encounter! It was his very postings on this site, that led me to meeting him and I still feel that I'm "one of his guys", even though I haven't seen him in the last year plus. I know that I can contact Benjamin via email or phone anytime, and that being the beautiful person that he is, that he will respond amiably, despite the passage of time between encounters.

 

I fail to see the postings that you allude to, where BN goes on and on about his material possessions and luxurious lifestyle! All I ever see are well-thought out, interesting postings about a variety of topics, and no one has ever posted more honest, client friendly thoughts about the escort business than BN.

 

It is that friendly demeanor, that respect for the client, and that refreshing ability to state a difference of opinion without offending others, that has led to the success of BN, which success seems to "eat" at you in some kind of "jealous need" to strike out at him.

 

Benjamin is rightly reaping the rewards for being who he is, and it is too bad, that you are so full of vitriol that you have to castigate him and even more so, those who have hired him, for more than the customary 1 hour encounter. As one who has done so, I find your comments offensive to both BN and me!, especially since you base your vitriol on people you do not know and will never know!

 

>I didn't say anything about you as a person because I have not

>met you. However, I am not impressed that many people hire

>you or write good reviews. There are lots of people who think

>crystal meth is a great thing, there are many others who sing

>the praises of bareback sex. That does not mean that crystal

>or barebacking are good things.

 

Your comments about BN's postings did indeed impugn BN's character and person.

 

>I do feel bad for people who hire you. Its one thing to hire

>an escort for an hour or two of sex. But when you need to pay

>$2000 just to get someone to be your friend for a weekend,

>that's sad.

 

I have hired BN more than once, and for never less than an overnight, and I enjoyed the encounters immensely! As such, PLEASE don't feel bad for me! You should look in the mirror and ask yourself why you feel the need to bring everyone down to your level of self-loathing hatefulness and spite. That is what is truly sad!

>

>My hope, for the people who hire you, is that they gain the

>self esteem that will allow them to go out and make friends

>who don't need to paid to spend time with them.

 

I have lots of self-esteem, just see some of my posts on this site! So only people with no self-esteem and no friends, hire escorts? What site are you posting to?

[Doug69]

RE: A needed defense

 

>I said your posts were crass and superficial and I think

>that's an accurate description. Crass is defined as "guided

>by or indicative of base or materialistic values." Its hard

>to imagine anything more materialistic than the way you go on

>and on about your material possessions and luxurious

>lifestyle.

 

I think you're being really unfair to Benjamin here. Here's an excerpt from the first paragraph of his latest entry on his little web diary, which I NEVER miss:

 

<< I luckily got to spend TurkeyDay with the family here in Texas, then had to jet out the following AM to close on some property in Chicago, followed by a rather peaceful trip to Cabo to enjoy the place just before their high-season hits later this month.>>

 

Now, being such a cynic, you may say that someone who speaks this way at all, let alone publicly - "The next morning, I had to jet out to close on some property in Chicago" - is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, insecure bitch-creep who is trying to impersonate Joan Collins at her Dynasty peak as a means of compensating for some pretty low self-esteem.

 

I mean, after all - you might, in your gross cynicism, argue - anyone who is truly comfortable with himself would never feel the need to flamboyantly - and I do mean flamboyantly! - parade his materialistic accomplishments around on the Internet. Only someone who is painfully superficial and in pathological need of attention would do such a thing, you might say.

 

You probably would also then add that one of your most compelling bits of proof in support of your "materialistic and crass" accusation was the time that he went and purchased a new car, and then immediately went outside and posed next to it, and then uploaded the picture with the caption: "ME AND MY NEW CAR!"

 

How devastatingly ill would a person have to be, you might argue, to go out and acquire a new possession, and then feel a desire to pose in a picture next to it and post it on the Internet? That, you might suggest, is truly irrefutable proof of the person's grotesque need to be noticed.

 

Well, matt gunther, I'm here to say: that is just not true! All Benjamin is trying to do is to share the bounties of his life with his followers and admirers - he wants to show the old guys who pay him to be near him what materialistic items their generosity enables him to purchase. Is there something wrong with that?

 

And by the way, matt gunther, if you disagree with any of this, it's only because you're jealous of Benjamin. And if you ever say anything about him that does not overflow with drooling worship, this is a real sign of your evil nature!

 

One last thing, matt gunther: perhaps this will change your view of him. Benjamin is not just physically so pretty, and he not only possesses a lot of jewels, but he's also a child prodigy! Although he's only 21 years old (his website says so!), he graduated college - COLLEGE! - in the last 1990s, and he's already been wildly successful in several different businesses, including as a touring Broadway star and as a Real Estate Executive!

 

And as for all those scornful, hateful, critical comments he makes about all other escorts in order to build himself up - you're just seeing things! That's also because you're jealous and don't appreciate Benjamin's Saintly Perfection, because you're EVIL! EVIL, MATT GUNTHER - EVIL!!!

[+ Lucky]

RE: A needed defense

 

Doug, thanks for your defense of BN. You did a great service that I am now willing to promote you from "slime under the rock" to just a worm. Keep up the good work.

 

Now there's not a chance in hell that I will ever meet you, BN, or god forbid, mattgunther, but I would have to say that I could listen to BN's crass stuff long after I tired of your perpetual bitchiness.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: A needed defense

 

A timely return... I was just musing this AM about your MIA status of late. Beginning to think the turkey got the better of you this year but it appears that all is in working order. :7

[Nicholas571]

So much for getting back to Hooboy's health. Enough about Benjamin Nicholas and Matt Gunther.

 

Benjamin's living on the edge and enjoying a great deal of wealth. in return though, he's always sleeping with one eye open as should the long arm of the law ever focus....no more wealth and that's the least of the issues.

 

How is Hooboy?

[Chuck50]

MattGunther I really can't believe that you are picking on or trying to drag Ben Nicholas name down. What gives you the right do you know him? Are you just trashing his posts? Or What? I take offense in what you have said. If anyone is talking trash my freind you may want to look in the Mirror. HUGS Chuck

[Chuck50]

RE: A needed defense

 

Doug69. I am never sure of where you are coming from but that's all right, cause this is a site for all kinds of people even those who don't have a life and can't stand it when someone else does. They try to take their anger out on someone else and you always do. HUGS Chuck

[woodlawn]

RE: A needed defense

 

>Doug69. I am never sure of where you are coming from but

>that's all right, cause this is a site for all kinds of people

>even those who don't have a life and can't stand it when

>someone else does.

 

Funny, I thought this site was for people who don't have a life and who hire younger men so they can pretend otherwise. Isn't that what you do?

 

>They try to take their anger out on someone

>else and you always do.

 

I think it's simply outrageous that Doug refuses to play along with the rest of us and pretend that hiring younger men for sex is an adequate substitute for something real. What a spoilsport!

[Guest BadBoySmythe]

RE: A needed defense

 

Is it just me, or does the name "woodlawn" sound like a cemetery?

 

For a man with such obvious disdain for escorts and the escorting industry, he sure spends a lot of time on this board.

[woodlawn]

RE: A needed defense

 

>Is it just me, or does the name "woodlawn" sound like a

>cemetery?

 

It's you. With centuries of English literature to draw upon for the insult you were trying to frame, you came up with the most trite, banal and tired remark imaginable.

 

>For a man with such obvious disdain for escorts and the

>escorting industry, he sure spends a lot of time on this

>board.

 

Tell you what: show me a message board where selfishness, self-deception, hypocrisy and the glorification of meaningless sex acts are more in evidence than they are here, and I'll start spending my time there instead.

[+ deej]

RE: A needed defense

 

>Tell you what: show me a message board where selfishness,

>self-deception, hypocrisy and the glorification of meaningless

>sex acts are more in evidence than they are here, and I'll

>start spending my time there instead.

 

Leave out the sex part and you just described 90% of the internet. You shouldn't have any trouble finding a place.

 

Do let us know where to forward your mail, though. }(

[HotdadENYC]

Perhaps I'm wrong, or misread something along the way, but I was thinking that this was a post devoted EXCLUSIVELY to HooBoy's health and well-being.

 

Its not that I didn't enjoy reading about the "back n forth" between the "committed" posters, about whatever they decided to rant about, but I thought it was especially inappropriate to introduce such topics in a post which was originally designed to bring some cheer and good will to a guy who is now down and needs some perking up.

 

And not to mention, from the SAME guy who has beseeched us to be kind to one another.

 

To use this particular forum to blast BN (Benjie) is, in my opinion, the height of tackiness. Start up another thread and post your feelings there.

 

Let's keep this thread solely and exclusively for well wishes to HooBoy, and if you find you can't do that, then keep your comments (at least in THIS forum) to yourself. Remember the old saying, if you can't say anything nice about someone.......

 

But I also have used this guideline in my corporate dealings; maybe its pertinent here:

 

"It is far better to keep you mouth shut, and let people suspect that you are stupid, than to OPEN your mouth and confirm what they already suspected."

 

 

Warmest Regards,

 

hd NYC

[noviceny]

HotDad,

 

Yup, this should be kept for well wishes for HB...but I couldnt resist responding just a little...:-)

 

 

"I also said that you were often "spewing contempt" in your postings. The one that starts this thread is a pefect example: you refer to people who disagree with you as "pessimistic shitheads."

 

- OK guys I dont know where youre all from, but in NY we call our grandmothers "shitheads", so I dont think its that contemptous.

 

"Is it just me, or does the name "woodlawn" sound like a cemetery?"

 

- Woodlawn, I am sorry, but it is the name of a cemetery...I live in Yonkers on the border of the Bronx, and the Woodlawn Cemetery can be found across the street from the Woodlawn train Station (Metro North). Bro, I though you were from the Bronx cause of the name...guess I was wrong.

 

"Tell you what: show me a message board where selfishness, self-deception, hypocrisy and the glorification of meaningless sex acts are more in evidence than they are here, and I'll start spending my time there instead. "

 

- OK, check vatican.org :-) :-) :-) :-)

(j/k...I love Jesus and PJP II)

 

Oh man, I fucken crack myself up.

[Doug69]

>Perhaps I'm wrong, or misread something along the way, but I

>was thinking that this was a post devoted EXCLUSIVELY to

>HooBoy's health and well-being.

 

I do so hate to be disrespectful to the elders, "DadE," but you're apparently having some serious difficulties with reading comprehension.

 

The original post by lil' Benji which started this thread had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Hooboy's health (let alone being "EXCLUSIVELY" about his health). Indeed, Benji's original post was written PRIOR to Hooboy's disclosure of his "very minor stroke," and pertained exclusively to Hooboy's announcement of some new boy he found that he likes.

 

That prompted Benjamin -- who undoubtedly secured yet another Coverboy of the Day - to then excoriate all of us Insensitive Souls for the grievous sin of failing to comment on HB's critically important announcement that he's been hanging out with some hot kid (BN announced himself "shocked" - just "shocked" - that everybody (other than Benji) lacked the social graces to acknowledge Hooboy's announcement of finding a new boy).

 

So, you're confuinsing this thread - which had nothing to do with Hooboy's health - with the 22 other threads in which people write post after post telling HB, who seems to be having a great time cavorting in Thailand, to rest and not do anything.

 

Put another way, you owe everyone who participated in this thread a heartfelt and humble apology for yelling at us for mentioning things in this thread other than HB's health -- given that this thread had nothing to do with that topic.

 

Let's hear it.

 

>. . . . but I thought it was especially inappropriate

>to introduce such topics in a post which was originally

>designed to bring some cheer and good will to a guy who is now

>down and needs some perking up.

 

Read what you wrote here - then go read BN's post again. Do you see, yet, just how painfully mistaken you are. That's what happens when we rush to sermonize and parade ourselves around as the Guardian of Tact and Ethics.

 

>Let's keep this thread solely and exclusively for well wishes

>to HooBoy, and if you find you can't do that, then keep your

>comments (at least in THIS forum) to yourself. Remember the

>old saying, if you can't say anything nice about

>someone.......

 

How come - when you went to write this long post telling all of us how rude and tacky and inappropriate we are - that you didn't follow your own advice?

 

Doesn't that little trite lession - "Remember the old saying, if you can't say anything nice about someone......." -- apply to you?

 

>But I also have used this guideline in my corporate dealings;

>maybe its pertinent here:

>

>"It is far better to keep you mouth shut, and let people

>suspect that you are stupid, than to OPEN your mouth and

>confirm what they already suspected."

 

Good advice. Here's hoping that, the next time you go to hit the POST button, you'll follow it.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Tighten it up a little..

 

In the business world brevity is everything...

 

>"It is far better to keep you mouth shut, and let people

>suspect that you are stupid, than to OPEN your mouth and

>confirm what they already suspected."

>

 

'It is far better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool

than to open it and remove all doubt.'

 

First encountered in 4th grade and left a lasting impression. Teacher had it posted all year. Was she trying to tell us something? I bet she never expected that lesson to travel so far and wide.

[woodlawn]

RE: A needed defense

 

>Leave out the sex part and you just described 90% of the

>internet. You shouldn't have any trouble finding a place.

 

If there is such a plethora of places that share those characteristics, you shouldn't have any trouble recommending one. Still waiting.

[woodlawn]

>"Is it just me, or does the name "woodlawn" sound like a

>cemetery?"

 

>- Woodlawn, I am sorry, but it is the name of a cemetery...I

>live in Yonkers on the border of the Bronx,

 

You're from Yonkers? That explains a lot.

 

>and the Woodlawn

>Cemetery can be found across the street from the Woodlawn

>train Station (Metro North). Bro, I though you were from the

>Bronx cause of the name...guess I was wrong.

 

I'm equally puzzled by your posts. In one thread in the Deli section, you claim you have never had sex with a man. In another thread in the same section, you pretend to speak with authority about the behavior of clients and escorts as if from long experience. Both of those things can't well be true. Which is it?

 

 

>Oh man, I fucken crack myself up.

 

That's great. Now you can start trying to figure out how to write posts that OTHERS find amusing as well. Check back with us in a few months and let us know if you've made any progress.