My 1st thread is a thank you and warning

[LivingnLA]

I'd like to thank all of you who provided advice after the robbery I experienced during my first and only experience hiring an escort. Losing a smartphone and some cash was ultimately no big deal especially when my health could've been compromised while I was blacked out, I could've died from whatever was given to me, been murdered, etc. Yeah, a stolen phone and cash are bad but it could've been worse.

 

The warning part is maybe more of a question. Should I write a review of my experience here and on the various websites where he advertises? During the chats I've had, I've learned that the escort I hired and who robbed me is apparently a hard partier. I don't judge. To each their own and all that, but I do not party, beyond some alcohol and medicinal herbals, and I wouldn't have hired him if I'd known. I did not consent to anything beyond a drink or two from him. The fact that he gave me enough of whatever knocked me out for hours worries me because what if one of his future clients has an adverse reaction? Or dies?

 

I'm starting to feel like I have some responsibility to the greater client community to make them aware that this perfectly reviewed escort isn't always so perfect. I've read a review or two here on the forum where clients had fun with him, so I suspect he only preys on the new and naive clients and behaves himself with seasoned clients.

 

He has an account on this site and I have no idea what happened during my blackout, so there's always the possibility of some kind of retaliatory risk. As a precaution--know thy enemy and all that--I figured out his name and have learned a bit about his criminal past, theft and drug possessions and maybe some prison time.

 

I'm not interested in ruining his life. Revenge is pointless. Karma comes around. But, I am worried for people like me, new potential clients who get duped by a smile, nice body and charming personality.

 

Your advice is greatly appreciated.

[BaronArtz]

I am sorry to read this story. I hate it intensely when gay men are taken advantage of. You were the victim of a crime, plain and simple. Not only should you write a review to warn our community about the criminal act of this person - he will have the right to express his point of view if he choses to do so. In addition, you should go to the police. You were robbed. You don't need to tell the cops that you hired him as an escort. You can say you hired him as a companion, or as a masseur. Both are legal. Stand up for yourself.

[Irtwo]

That's a hard one. I understand your reluctance to name him. But at the same time, since you said he has an account on this site, not naming him throws a cloud over all the escorts who post on here.

[seaboy4hire]

Do not name him on the message board but do name him in an offical review. Ass hats like him give those of us who are legit and honest a bad rep and it pisses me off. Call that piece of scum out. You're lucky nothing worse happened. Although I'm not sure how long ago the encoubter was please go and get a full lab of sti work done.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[rogerG]

I've learned that the escort I hired and who robbed me is apparently a hard partier.

That means he's probably an addict and needed your money immediately.

 

I don't judge.

It's important that all newbies cull as much information as one can before jumping into their first hire. With the information, you need to make a judgement and make a hiring decision. If you were to hire a contractor, would you not "judge" his previous work before making the hire?

 

Escorting and addiction often go hand in hand. Whenever you hear that an escort likes to "party," a red flag should go up immediately.

 

I did not consent to anything beyond a drink or two from him.

Never drink or eat anything in the presence of a first-time hire. Bring your own water to the appointment. You should only drink alcohol with an escort you know well.

 

I'm starting to feel like I have some responsibility to the greater client community to make them aware that this perfectly reviewed escort isn't always so perfect.

 

Isn't always so perfect? Wow, talk about soft-peddling. If your story is true, he's a thief and a criminal, I don't care how sexy or hot you find him.

 

There is nothing quite like bad word of mouth to kill an escort's career. With PM's at your disposal, I would use every means necessary to get a truthful story out there. Certainly, write a truthful review. However, there's no guarantee it will get published.

 

Escorts with drug addictions are plentiful. Even the famous and fabulous guys can fall prey. Drug addicts need professional help. First-time customers need to learn how to read the signs and make smart judgements. If you know a well-reviewed escort robbed you, it is your duty to warn others. Always, personal safety must come first when making hiring decisions.

[LivingnLA]

I am sorry to read this story. I hate it intensely when gay men are taken advantage of. You were the victim of a crime, plain and simple. Not only should you write a review to warn our community about the criminal act of this person - he will have the right to express his point of view if he choses to do so. In addition, you should go to the police. You were robbed. You don't need to tell the cops that you hired him as an escort. You can say you hired him as a companion, or as a masseur. Both are legal. Stand up for yourself.

 

Thank you. I identify as bi, so I hope you feel the same when bi guys are taken advantage of too.

 

It happened last year and he's no longer in LA. I'll think about writing the review. I've explained the whole situation to those who've asked via PM, so I certainly have enough text to work with by now.

[LivingnLA]

That's a hard one. I understand your reluctance to name him. But at the same time, since you said he has an account on this site, not naming him throws a cloud over all the escorts who post on here.

 

Thank you for understanding. True. I hadn't considered that point. If it helps, it doesn't appear he's very active at all here on this site.

[LivingnLA]

Do not name him on the message board but do name him in an offical review. Ass hats like him give those of us who are legit and honest a bad rep and it pisses me off. Call that piece of scum out. You're lucky nothing worse happened. Although I'm not sure how long ago the encoubter was please go and get a full lab of sti work done.

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

Thanks for the advice. The official review would be on rentmen and the like? It happened last year and I have been tested for everything twice since it happened. I'm still clean and will continue to get tested for everything regularly.

[LivingnLA]

That means he's probably an addict and needed your money immediately.

 

It's important that all newbies cull as much information as one can before jumping into their first hire. With the information, you need to make a judgement and make a hiring decision. If you were to hire a contractor, would you not "judge" his previous work before making the hire?

 

Escorting and addiction often go hand in hand. Whenever you hear that an escort likes to "party," a red flag should go up immediately.

 

Never drink or eat anything in the presence of a first-time hire. Bring your own water to the appointment. You should only drink alcohol with an escort you know well.

 

Isn't always so perfect? Wow, talk about soft-peddling. If your story is true, he's a thief and a criminal, I don't care how sexy or hot you find him.

 

There is nothing quite like bad word of mouth to kill an escort's career. With PM's at your disposal, I would use every means necessary to get a truthful story out there. Certainly, write a truthful review. However, there's no guarantee it will get published.

 

Escorts with drug addictions are plentiful. Even the famous and fabulous guys can fall prey. Drug addicts need professional help. First-time customers need to learn how to read the signs and make smart judgements. If you know a well-reviewed escort robbed you, it is your duty to warn others. Always, personal safety must come first when making hiring decisions.

 

Thanks. I did quite a bit of research and exchanged a handful of texts with several candidates on my short list before I focused on him. I had a couple phone chats with him before agreeing to meet. I didn't know about this site, but even if I had, as I've said, there are good things said about him here, so it's clear he doesn't do it to every client.

 

As I said, I had no idea he partied. His ads didn't mention it and he denied it in our exchanges. If I'd known, I wouldn't have booked him. Yes, I definitely made a mistake accepting those drinks and not closely watching when he prepared them. I trusted him and that was wrong.

 

Well, look, I try to be a nice guy and again, he has a good review or two here and from apparently real and respected forum members, so I must conclude that he isn't a hardcore criminal that robs every client. Instead, he likely preys on easy ones. My story is true, but I didn't provide a complete and detailed breakdown of what I remember leading up to the blackout or when I awoke. I can if requested, I just didn't want to give away too much in public out of concern for him seeing it, remembering me and retaliating.

[LivingnLA]

[details deleted by request of a forum member]

 

I now know this escort continues to use drugs with clients, though he apparently asks now before giving drugs to the client.

[+ ArVaGuy]

One of my early hires slammed me against a wall, pressed his forearm on my throat, and punched me in the stomach. When I slumped to the floor he kicked me then stepped on my hand. He took all of my cash and nearly left me stranded in a remote area.

 

I had left my credit cards and ATM card back at the hotel. Which was about the only smart decision made related to this hire. A few months later I discovered the review site and this forum. This forum proved to be a godsend and taught me the best practices for hiring and being a good client.

 

The escort was based in Atlanta and called himself Nick. Some of the long time members will remember a poster here called Beware of Nick (BON). BON undertook the effort to inform as many as possible about this sociopathic escort. He even went so far as to get help for this guy's girlfriend to escape domestic abuse.

 

I did not allow this horrible experience to influence my perception of the working guys in this business. I was determined not to allow Nick that much control. Today I'm much more discriminating in my hires as a very experienced client. There's no way I'd repeat the mistakes made in that early hire. I owe that learning to the fellow posters here and the excellent escorts I've had the pleasure to meet since then.

 

The point to sharing this is to advise you not to be fearful of this bad hire. You made a few errors of judgment. I certainly did in my case and others have as well. Take this as an opportunity to learn and make the next hire an awesome opportunity.

 

If you decide to submit a review stick to the facts. Be truthful regarding the circumstances. Do not embellish and leave emotions at the keyboard. Daddy will no doubt seek to verify this experience if, as you say, the escort is a participant on the forum. The escort is going to be given the opportunity to respond. Due to the nature of the allegations it may be a vigorous defense. If there's a more sinister retaliation then seek out the legal means to protect your interests.

 

There are so many wonderful and great escorts in this business. Don't let this horrible experience prevent you from meeting them.

[klifhangar]

I wish you would just name him here. This makes me wonder which of our guys it is, which sucks for the innocent.

[Kenny]

But, the escort told him about "giving him something that would help him relax and have fun" so I guess that's progress. He's at least telling the client now before he drugs him.

What!? Bill Cosby is escorting!?!?

[LivingnLA]

I did not allow this horrible experience to influence my perception of the working guys in this business. I was determined not to allow Nick that much control. Today I'm much more discriminating in my hires as a very experienced client. There's no way I'd repeat the mistakes made in that early hire. I owe that learning to the fellow posters here and the excellent escorts I've had the pleasure to meet since then.

 

The point to sharing this is to advise you not to be fearful of this bad hire. You made a few errors of judgment. I certainly did in my case and others have as well. Take this as an opportunity to learn and make the next hire an awesome opportunity.

 

If you decide to submit a review stick to the facts. Be truthful regarding the circumstances. Do not embellish and leave emotions at the keyboard. Daddy will no doubt seek to verify this experience if, as you say, the escort is a participant on the forum. The escort is going to be given the opportunity to respond. Due to the nature of the allegations it may be a vigorous defense. If there's a more sinister retaliation then seek out the legal means to protect your interests.

 

There are so many wonderful and great escorts in this business. Don't let this horrible experience prevent you from meeting them.

 

I haven't either but your experience sure gives me pause. I'm glad you're ok. I always try to live and learn and grow, just as I tell my kids. It's the only way to experience life. What's Daddy? I've seen it mentioned a few times here. I'm guessing a review site?

[LivingnLA]

I wish you would just name him here. This makes me wonder which of our guys it is, which sucks for the innocent.

 

I'm sorry. As I said, he has a forum account here but doesn't appear to be active. PM me if you want to discuss the details. He is obviously very active on rentmen and related sites.

[LivingnLA]

What!? Bill Cosby is escorting!?!?

 

So wrong. Lol

[Tonyko]

THIS IS F@@#KNG NUTS! If your fear for your own safety fear retaliation in going public etc if he has your personal info (saw your wallet knows your name addy etc etc) THAT I tots get and no one outside your shoes should tell you what to do. BUT there is a scort out there (thou inactive still with a profile HERE) currently advertising then drugging and robbing ppl????? FUK "privacy respect" blah blah THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO KNOW. Again I applaud you for bringing this to light, but I have buds with heart conditions severe low blood pressure etc ANYTHANG that supresses the respitory system could KILL them. I have gone to the mattressess publically with long-time scam artists like Scott Sloan etc, BUT with the safety of a dozen states between us, YOUR situation is different I understand that. But there MUST be a way to warn others that doesn't compromise your safety??

[Mo Mason]

Tell us who it is. If I end up hiring this guy, getting drugged, raped, robbed, and killed, then it's your fault.

 

Give a man a heads up, please.

[LivingnLA]

As I said, I'm willing to discuss more details via PM. I'm still trying to decide about a public review since I have no idea what he did to me during those hours. There could be unreleased video of him fucking me. I know I was sore and bleeding when I returned to awareness. I'm glad my full std sti screens have been clean so far.

[bigvalboy]

Well this has all been very interesting, but it's become a bit too much for my taste....Far too many innuendos. Good luck gentlemen.

[+ Keith30309]

Do not name him on the message board but do name him in an official review. Ass hats like him give those of us who are legit and honest a bad rep and it pisses me off. Call that piece of scum out. You're lucky nothing worse happened. Although I'm not sure how long ago the encoubter was please go and get a full lab of sti work done.

Greg

 

If you decide to submit a review stick to the facts. Be truthful regarding the circumstances. Do not embellish and leave emotions at the keyboard. Daddy will no doubt seek to verify this experience if, as you say, the escort is a participant on the forum. The escort is going to be given the opportunity to respond. Due to the nature of the allegations it may be a vigorous defense. If there's a more sinister retaliation then seek out the legal means to protect your interests.

 

+1 +1

 

There are 2 sides to every story and whatever is posted on this forum is hearsay - hence the vetting within Daddy's review process which gives it its veracity. Everyone should have the opportunity to state their side of the story and my observation is that those rebuttals can go either way.

 

State the facts fully and qualify your inferences and opinions as such.

 

When both sides to the story are presented the interested readers here will have as good a basis as possible upon which to draw their conclusions.

[LivingnLA]

Well this has been all very interesting, but it's become a bit too much for my taste....Far too many innuendos. Good luck gentlemen.

 

I'm sorry about that. I'm trying to warn people without revealing too many details. You're right, it does seem innuendo packed. Feel free to PM if you want more details from my side of the story.

[LivingnLA]

+1 +1

 

There are 2 sides to every story and whatever is posted on this forum is hearsay - hence the vetting within Daddy's review process which gives it its veracity. Everyone should have the opportunity to state their side of the story and my observation is that those rebuttals can go either way.

 

State the facts fully and qualify your inferences and opinions as such.

 

When both sides to the story are presented the interested readers here will have as good a basis as possible upon which to draw their conclusions.

 

I'll think about it. I'd like to think that my posts here have clearly shown that I'm trying to be open, honest and fair. I'm truly not trying to smear anyone. I'm just sharing what I can from my experience. At a minimum, this thread serves as an educational lesson for new potential clients. Y'all provide many good ideas to consider.

[+ glennnn]

As I said, I'm willing to discuss more details via PM. I'm still trying to decide about a public review since I have no idea what he did to me during those hours. There could be unreleased video of him fucking me. I know I was sore and bleeding when I returned to awareness. I'm glad my full std sti screens have been clean so far.

 

 

So, you were sexually assaulted as well!!!! I'm still a newbie in the client/escort world, and your story chills my blood to think it could have happened to me. I'm sooooooooo thankful for Daddy's reviews and the loving, protective community on this forum. My two cents..... write a calm factual review of everything that happened, post it here, chose only well-vetted escorts in the future by seeking specific advice here and try to move on. Hugs!

[LivingnLA]

So, you were sexually assaulted as well!!!! I'm still a newbie in the client/escort world, and your story chills my blood to think it could have happened to me. I'm sooooooooo thankful for Daddy's reviews and the loving, protective community on this forum. My two cents..... write a calm factual review of everything that happened, post it here, chose only well-vetted escorts in the future by seeking help here and try to move on. Hugs!

 

Well, I don't know since I was blacked out. I know there was some blood but that could've been from anything. Besides, I'd wanted to be fucked--that was the whole point--but the blackout removed my consent and memories.

 

Thanks for the kind words. I am thinking about submitting my experience to whoever Daddy is for review and consideration.