Jason Sparks Live Tour/Phoenix AZ

[Kippy]

The following are new posts on Rentmen.com today for Phoenix AZ listed as part of the Jason Sparks traveling tour for March 9 & 10. I suspect a scam-- but Lance Matthews looks nice!

 

Joshua James, Brogan Reed, Lance Matthews, Alec Shea and Damien Hyde.

 

http://rentmen.com/LanceMatthews

 

Peace,

 

Kipp

[Devon]

I have experienced the tour and had a really good time in the past. I don't have any experience with Lance though. It wasn't a scam, but I believe they keep a busy schedule. Hope that helps.

[humboldt]

Those are all folks who have been on tour with him and done videos for his site. You can also check out pics of them on his twitter feed.

 

As you probably know, there’s not a lot of love for Jason Sparks in this forum, due in part to allegations about how he treats his models, and due in part to the experiences of at least some forum members who have reported on their encounters.

 

I will admit that several years ago, mostly out of desperation (as I live in an area that does not get much escort traffic), I hired one of his models, whom I found to be extremely attractive. But it ended up being a very awkward experience.

 

Jason’s escorts were only doing in-calls, they had rented a suite in a hotel, and while I was with the escort in the bedroom, all of the others were hanging out in the main room watching TV, playing video games, talking on their phones, etc. Also, the escort made zero attempt at even feigning passion. He couldn’t get hard, which was demoralizing. I got the sense he was spent. I left feeling sorry for myself and – quite frankly – a bit sorry for the escort.

[+ quoththeraven]

Past scuttlebutt is that those who don't produce enough dough get left by the side of the road without money to get back home, pretty much literally. Reports also are that the guys work to the point of exhaustion as a result.

 

As far as I can tell, the guys aren't scammed - in other words, they know what they're there for - but otherwise it sounds like a cross between a traveling sweatshop and door-to-door magazine sales teams.

[sincitymix]

Past scuttlebutt is that those who don't produce enough dough get left by the side of the road without money to get back home, pretty much literally. Reports also are that the guys work to the point of exhaustion as a result.

 

As far as I can tell, the guys aren't scammed - in other words, they know what they're there for - but otherwise it sounds like a cross between a traveling sweatshop and door-to-door magazine sales teams.

Past scuttlebutt is that those who don't produce enough dough get left by the side of the road without money to get back home, pretty much literally. Reports also are that the guys work to the point of exhaustion as a result.

 

As far as I can tell, the guys aren't scammed - in other words, they know what they're there for - but otherwise it sounds like a cross between a traveling sweatshop and door-to-door magazine sales teams.

Past scuttlebutt is that those who don't produce enough dough get left by the side of the road without money to get back home, pretty much literally. Reports also are that the guys work to the point of exhaustion as a result.

 

As far as I can tell, the guys aren't scammed - in other words, they know what they're there for - but otherwise it sounds like a cross between a traveling sweatshop and door-to-door magazine sales teams.

 

Geeze makes me either want to hire the guys so they make the quota, or grab them in an intervention sort of way and take them away from such a horrible life

[+ quoththeraven]

Geeze makes me either want to hire the guys so they make the quota, or grab them in an intervention sort of way and take them away from such a horrible life

 

I lean more toward the latter. Even though it doesn't appear to be trafficking, it sure looks like exploitation.

[+ azdr0710]

I actually just now talked on the phone with Jason himself, he said, and he was honest, professional and friendly in answering my not-too-prying questions.....these guys he has are a bit younger than I usually prefer, but I wanted to see how he responded and what the vibe is......I wasn't turned off by the way the call went, but still wonder about the way the guys are treated.....hmmm

[Edward]

I wonder how these boys are paid. The fee is only $160. They have to pay for hotel, food, travel and who knows what else. I am wondering how many clients a day they are seeing?

 

It is hard to be young, and poor.

[sincitymix]

I wonder how these boys are paid. The fee is only $160. They have to pay for hotel, food, travel and who knows what else. I am wondering how many clients a day they are seeing?

 

It is hard to be young, and poor.

don't they upsell? Oh you wanted me to put that There? Thatll be an extra...

someone mentioned 4 or 5 guys to a room...

[buckguy]

My one experience was that the whole operation (including equipment for a videocast) was done out of an Embassy Suites (I think it was a Marriott equivalent) type room. There wasn't a lot of privacy--Jason and his then fiance (he seems to have had quite a few) were buzzing around setting up the video equipment. Jason himself struck me as "businesslike" in a rather cold and unengaging way. I've always been a little mystified how he could make money on such an overhead-heavy business model. The upselling involves an effort to have you do a 4-handed appointment, although it wasn't too much of a hardsell.

[+ saminseattle]

For reference, here are some earlier threads concerning Jason Sparks. It all sounds pretty sordid to me.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/watch-out-dc-jason-sparks-is-back-in-town-buyers-beware-highly-un-recommendable.93916/

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/travis-stevens-coming-to-in-nyc.103863/#post-955620

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/the-jasonsparkslivetour.101267/page-2

[+ azdr0710]

met with a couple of them tonight....definitely not a scam or a racket....indentured servitude??!! - not really, but....

 

if you're really serious, PM me for my thoughts....I'll probably have to make up a form letter if I get a ton of inquiries

[+ azdr0710]

met with a couple of them tonight....definitely not a scam or a racket....indentured servitude??!! - not really, but....

 

if you're really serious, PM me for my thoughts....I'll probably have to make up a form letter if I get a ton of inquiries

[Kippy]

Ditto! I had a fantastic meeting with Lance in PHX tonight. Wow--second to none! Sometimes one has to throw caution to the wind. Despite previous JS concerns this worked out very well.

 

Peace,

 

Kipp

[robberbaron4u]

A travelling carnival show which, on rare occasion, offers something exceptional.

[+ dutchmuch]

http://rentmen.com/AlecShea

 

Whets my whistle.

[beetwo]

met with a couple of them tonight....definitely not a scam or a racket....indentured servitude??!! - not really, but....

 

if you're really serious, PM me for my thoughts....I'll probably have to make up a form letter if I get a ton of inquiries

 

 

I would be interested in your thoughts but can't find out wherethe pm button is. lol

[+ Gar1eth]

The one time I met with the entourage -my experience as best I remember-

 

I called because I was interested in one of his guys. I can't remember exactly what happened-I vaguely remember Jason saying the guy in question was out clubbing, and they didn't know when he would be back. Jason suggested one of the other guys. And I thought the guy was cute. So I said ok.

 

So the set up-it was at a suite hotel-one of those with at least two individual rooms as well as a den. Jason might have been with another client in either the other bedroom or the den while I was there. But the escort, and I were in a separate room. I don't see what the big deal is. I mean if you ever have met an escort anywhere but at a private home, then there are most likely going to be people around you, and some of those people might also be having 'relations' just as you are. I'm not a big screamer or moaner-so I wasn't going to attract anyone from outside the room's attention. And I certainly didn't hear anything from the other rooms-so it didn't matter to me that they might have been there. Out of sight/sound, out of mind as they say.

 

As for my experience with the escort-well his pictures in the ad were accurate. And he performed well once he performed. Let me explain that last statement.

 

First as a preface, I had decided on my way to the hotel that if things were going well, I was going to extend the appointment to two hours. When the appointment started, I had asked to start with a massage-I wasn't watching the clock. But when I decided I had had enough massage and wanted to turn to other things, the escort said-oh your time is up. I was a bit po-ed that he hadn't mentioned how close we were getting to the one hour mark until the last minute. It seemed to me as if he had deliberately failed to keep me apprised of the time. But when I told him I was wanting a second hour, we proceeded to post massage activities-and he lived up to his ad without any hitches.

 

So the only complaint I had was that I thought the escort might have been trying to get out of doing anything but massage. On the other hand, I guess it's possible he lost track of time without meaning to the same as I did. And he fulfilled his duties during the second hour just fine. I definitely had an enjoyable experience.

 

Gman

[+ Keith30309]

The one time I met with the entourage -my experience as best I remember-

 

I called because I was interested in one of his guys. I can't remember exactly what happened-I vaguely remember Jason saying the guy in question was out clubbing, and they didn't know when he would be back. Jason suggested one of the other guys. And I thought the guy was cute. So I said ok.

 

So the set up-it was at a suite hotel-one of those with at least two individual rooms as well as a den. Jason might have been with another client in either the other bedroom or the den while I was there. But the escort, and I were in a separate room. I don't see what the big deal is. I mean if you ever have met an escort anywhere but at a private home, then there are most likely going to be people around you, and some of those people might also be having 'relations' just as you are. I'm not a big screamer or moaner-so I wasn't going to attract anyone from outside the room's attention. And I certainly didn't hear anything from the other rooms-so it didn't matter to me that they might have been there. Out of sight/sound, out of mind as they say.

 

As for my experience with the escort-well his pictures in the ad were accurate. And he performed well once he performed. Let me explain that last statement.

 

First as a preface, I had decided on my way to the hotel that if things were going well, I was going to extend the appointment to two hours. When the appointment started, I had asked to start with a massage-I wasn't watching the clock. But when I decided I had had enough massage and wanted to turn to other things, the escort said-oh your time is up. I was a bit po-ed that he hadn't mentioned how close we were getting to the one hour mark until the last minute. It seemed to me as if he had deliberately failed to keep me apprised of the time. But when I told him I was wanting a second hour, we proceeded to post massage activities-and he lived up to his ad without any hitches.

 

So the only complaint I had was that I thought the escort might have been trying to get out of doing anything but massage. On the other hand, I guess it's possible he lost track of time without meaning to the same as I did. And he fulfilled his duties during the second hour just fine. I definitely had an enjoyable experience.

 

Gman

 

This is helpful. Did you get any sense that his circumstances were dire or exploitative or was the environment grim?

[+ azdr0710]

when I met with two of the guys (Lance and Alec) a couple weeks ago, I asked them a few questions about the "exploitation" thing (without getting too investigative)....most of these guys are young, probably do lean gay, and are looking for some money-making opportunity....I think they get recruited by "Jason" when he periodically prowls around grindr et al.....the main concern of the two I spoke with was getting enough business as they travel around.....they move quickly from town to town and may look for other gigs (dancing and what-have-you) to make ends meet.....one of the guys was driving his own car and I don't know how Jason compensates the guys for travel expenses.....the guys I met seemed sharp and not under the influence of anything.....it appears they can leave the "tour" at anytime, but then where would they make some quick money?....one guy was saving for additional college plans and the other just wanted to make ends meet.....

 

Keith: I did not sense dire and grim at all.....more just too-optimistic original promises from Jason and, perhaps, some poor marketing.....

 

Jason is honest during phone calls.....explain, discreetly, what type guy you'd like and he seems eager to make a match......the meets, ostensibly, start with a massage, but you can ramp it up from there pretty quickly if you are cool about it.....upselling didn't happen at all with me.....during our first contact, I did tell Jason I wanted to watch a "show", so that plan was already in place when I arrived

[+ Gar1eth]

The one time I met with the entourage -my experience as best I remember-

 

I called because I was interested in one of his guys. I can't remember exactly what happened-I vaguely remember Jason saying the guy in question was out clubbing, and they didn't know when he would be back. Jason suggested one of the other guys. And I thought the guy was cute. So I said ok.

 

So the set up-it was at a suite hotel-one of those with at least two individual rooms as well as a den. Jason might have been with another client in either the other bedroom or the den while I was there. But the escort, and I were in a separate room. I don't see what the big deal is. I mean if you ever have met an escort anywhere but at a private home, then there are most likely going to be people around you, and some of those people might also be having 'relations' just as you are. I'm not a big screamer or moaner-so I wasn't going to attract anyone from outside the room's attention. And I certainly didn't hear anything from the other rooms-so it didn't matter to me that they might have been there. Out of sight/sound, out of mind as they say.

 

As for my experience with the escort-well his pictures in the ad were accurate. And he performed well once he performed. Let me explain that last statement.

 

First as a preface, I had decided on my way to the hotel that if things were going well, I was going to extend the appointment to two hours. When the appointment started, I had asked to start with a massage-I wasn't watching the clock. But when I decided I had had enough massage and wanted to turn to other things, the escort said-oh your time is up. I was a bit po-ed that he hadn't mentioned how close we were getting to the one hour mark until the last minute. It seemed to me as if he had deliberately failed to keep me apprised of the time. But when I told him I was wanting a second hour, we proceeded to post massage activities-and he lived up to his ad without any hitches.

 

So the only complaint I had was that I thought the escort might have been trying to get out of doing anything but massage. On the other hand, I guess it's possible he lost track of time without meaning to the same as I did. And he fulfilled his duties during the second hour just fine. I definitely had an enjoyable experience.

 

Gman

This is helpful. Did you get any sense that his circumstances were dire or exploitative or was the environment grim?

 

I'm not sure I can answer that. The guy I was with didn't seem unhappy. And there was never any whispered pleas to save him. As for the hotel, I think I had been near there or even at the same hotel to see Bryan Wilder. It definitely wasn't in the best part of Dallas. But it wasn't the utter ghetto either.

 

Gman