One more thread about "gay per pay"... Will this subject ever go away?

[marylander1940]

[MikeyGMin]

This video made Luke a.k.a Vadim Black semi-notorious. I've never actually seen it, but I guess he talks about having to use drugs to get through all the sex. Never seen the MTV video, but I have seen a LOT of Vadim's scenes. You would never know he considers himself straight. He's kind of on the short side, but hot AF.

 

Warning to all though...he's very young and quite a hustler. People have even complained that he rips them off on Skype shows.

[rvwnsd]

I suppose the topic would go away if we just stopped talking about it.

[+ sync]

If lying to themselves brings them some measure of comfort and does not harm others, it's okay by me.

[Kuriousity]

If you need to get fucked up to fuck someone, then God just sent you a text message---"You are in the wrong line of work, hunty". If you can't slam an ass because you WANT to slam that ass, then move on...

[LADoug1]

If lying to themselves brings them some measure of comfort and does not harm others, it's okay by me.

But VERY sad for them.

[Tonyko]

Ugh THAT SHOW MADE ME SICK! If I hear ONE more educationally-challenged G4P porn star like this one talking about all the illegal (and harmful) meds he has to take JUST to be able to force himself to do what he does (from his bedroom is his girlfriend's mothers house where he lives) or the OTHER one on that show who practically said how grossed out he is by doing it with guys bemoaning about what he "has" to do for the sake of his wife and child to support them etc yada etc boo hoo, I'm gonna vomit. The sweet young porter in my building and his wife just had a baby, he empties garbage and carries bags, THAT's how he supports them. There's PLENTY of ways to make money! There's just not plenty of ways to make LOTS of EASY money. ( I btw may be in the minority in that I DO believe these are genuinely STR8 guys not in denial etc etc etc, I don't define gay or bi by who you are capable of having sex with I define it by who you go home to and live and sleep and share a bathroom with. ) Str8 guys have always done gay porn, some of the hugest gay porn stars have traditionally been str8, from the Jeff Stryker of my youth to babes of more recent years like CFisher's Dawson or Brady Jensen etc etc. Only the emotionally (and for some odd reason often "vertically") challenged ones feel the need to justify, qualify, and constantly point it out.

[stop]

What I don't understand is why doesn't he just do straight porn? Is there not as much money in it for the men? I thought gay porn paid nothing these days. There was another clip either on this show or another show about a male stripper that was straight and how he got involved in it. He had a really sad story and was essentially an alcoholic that would black out while he was stripping. I remember seeing him in LA at Cafe 11 and the Abby a few times before the show. I kind of understood why he was doing it as it happened gradually. If I remember correctly he did not have sex though, only stripped.

 

 

But these guys in the gay for pay, actually having sex just seems off to me. As Kuriousity pointed out if he has to do all those drugs he is probably in the wrong business. I get the dick pills but getting medication that isn't even sold in the states to me is a big RED FLAG and he probably needs to rethink his life choices. Just how much money can you make doing a porno these days? It seems like there are a million of them out there now so I can't imagine there is that much money in the business unless you are a superstar.

[marylander1940]

What I don't understand is why doesn't he just do straight porn?

 

Good point, I understand and I agree with you.

 

I love watching straight porno, and I'm tired of seeing the same actors over and over again... Girls get paid 3k or more, guys 1k if they're famous and many times you don't even see their faces while fucking the girls and I'm sure many straight guys just skip the dialogue if there's any.

 

There are only 3 jobs in this world where women get paid more money than men: modeling, prostitution, and porno.

[stop]

Good point, I understand and I agree with you.

 

I love watching straight porno, and I'm tired of seeing the same actors over and over again... Girls get paid 3k or more, guys 1k if they're famous and many times you don't even see their faces while fucking the girls and I'm sure many straight guys just skip the dialogue if there's any.

 

There are only 3 jobs in this world where women get paid more money than men: modeling, prostitution, and porno.

 

don't forget surrogacy

[+ deej]

What I don't understand is why doesn't he just do straight porn?ra

 

There's no money in it.

 

In straight porn the men are just props -- about as important as any piece of furniture -- and get paid accordingly. If a guy gets balky over money there are thousands of other guys who will gladly do it for the money on offer.

[marylander1940]

don't forget surrogacy

 

Yes, I missed that one... but that's a job so far only women can't do because men don't have uterus.

[LADoug1]

Str8 guys have always done gay porn, some of the hugest gay porn stars have traditionally been str8, from the Jeff Stryker of my youth to babes of more recent years like CFisher's Dawson or Brady Jensen etc etc.

 

Never knew that Jeff Stryker was straight. Live and learn.

[Tonyko]

Never knew that Jeff Stryker was straight. Live and learn.

Yes, has a daughter, prolly in her 30's by now, when I first lived in LA would see him every Sunday at car wash in Studio Cty. VERY nice guy. And very straight A little over the top lol T-shirts n leather vests boots etc, very into cars. By time I met him the heyday was gone but think he REALLY missed it, was always trying to start something new, cable show, stage act, etc.