Fact or Fiction: Are Escorts subjected to a life expectancy?

[Mocha]

...in a chosen city? By the way, I don't mean carnal life expectancy, but rather a metaphor for demand.

 

After 5 years, the longest I ever lived in a state besides my homestate of Florida, I'm finally leaving Denver. However, I'm always out of town and I've been dithering on and off about moving for months. My apartment is mostly empty, and I'm so relieved that I'm finally doing it. It feels surreal. I felt like I'd never be able to do it, financially, mentally, etc. I started feeling trapped, bored, hopeless. Eventually I started falling behind on bills and rent because business has been reduced to barely anything these past few months. People say they're going to show up, and don't. Make appointments, then don't follow thru. Otherwise it's been deafly quiet. I used to even get stuff from Adam4Adam, and hadn't had but one client from it since July I think.

 

However, it wasn't always that way. My first two years here were great. I had a decent rotation of rather well off regulars. Some guys would give me between $300-$600 a month or more often...almost like a contract. And it would last reliably for months. Most were usually businessmen from out of town who came regularly. Some were locals. Or, I just had guys who would visit the airport, Denver tech center, downtown hotels, etc. Or I'd drive into the mountains couple times a winter.

 

But, about a year or 2 ago, things started changing, but there was still enough going on as too stay afloat. Now it's so bad, it's absolutely sunk. And after I returned from my holiday trip last month to an extremely quiet couple of weeks that lasted thru Christmas, I was in a mess. Had a couple long time regulars come by (one hadn't seen me in 3 or 4 years, the other in almost a year), but that was it.

 

Now, despite the optimism and sense of freedom, recovery and NO RENT paying for the next few months atleast (a long time regular of mine has an extra place and has been understanding)...I'm just left wondering, was I living on some sort of life expectancy? I kinda felt I was here too long.

 

Or, is it just what happens after awhile anywhere? Is that something one should always prepare for, unless they have the specific attributes, a city with endless clients, or a active porn career?

[marylander1940]

maybe you were the big fish in the small pond and now you have other escorts visiting or living in Denver because of the "green money", maybe clients just moved on.

 

Do you have any links to your ad?

[Kuriousity]

Look at this as the Universe saying "Do something else in Life". Escorting--in most cases--has a shelf life. Most guys who go into usually do not do longer than 5 years or so. Some can go on longer, but those are the exceptions. As for cities with endless clients, those do not exist. With people feeling unsure about their economic status now, paying for an escort is an expendable item.

[Mocha]

maybe you were the big fish in the small pond and now you have other escorts visiting or living in Denver because of the "green money", maybe clients just moved on.

 

Do you have any links to your ad?

 

I kinda just want to look at this from an imaginative point of view. Without the visual of ad links.

 

But yes, there has been an subtle increase in escorts, but mainly on BP. BP Denver is always full of listings.

 

The other thing is, I've often had clients in Denver say, "I used to see a guy regularly, but then he moved to...(usually far, far from Colorado). That makes me feel like maybe those other guys got sick of it too or things slowed down and they got up and left.

[BaronArtz]

Could it be the economy? Competition from online apps, facilitating easier hookups among the clients themselves?

 

I have a friend who runs a modelling agency here in NYC. The bookings and the fees paid to models are WAAAY down last 3 months. Fashion models have an even shorter shelf life, if it is a consolation to you.

 

Fashion models and escorts get chewed up, and thrown out on the sidewalk. Sorry. Guess you could say that about Wall Street too.

[Mocha]

Look at this as the Universe saying "Do something else in Life". Escorting--in most cases--has a shelf life. Most guys who go into usually do not do longer than 5 years or so. Some can go on longer, but those are the exceptions. As for cities with endless clients, those do not exist. With people feeling unsure about their economic status now, paying for an escort is an expendable item.

 

Well the thing is, I still have work to do. When I travel elsewhere, I'm always running off to a hotel somewhere or getting one myself. Like I have relatives in Orlando, and I always get calls to a hotel atleast once or twice during my stays there. I rarely bother hosting because it's more convenient to run off to someone's hotel room.

[Kuriousity]

Well the thing is, I still have work to do. When I travel elsewhere, I'm always running off to a hotel somewhere or getting one myself. Like I have relatives in Orlando, and I always get calls to a hotel atleast once or twice during my stays there. I rarely bother hosting because it's more convenient to run off to someone's hotel room.

 

 

Then perhaps the Universe is saying "Move to Orlando".

[Mocha]

Could it be the economy? Competition from online apps, facilitating easier hookups among the clients themselves?

 

I have a friend who runs a modelling agency here in NYC. The bookings and the fees paid to models are WAAAY down last 3 months. Fashion models have an even shorter shelf life, if it is a consolation to you.

 

Fashion models and escorts get chewed up, and thrown out on the sidewalk. Sorry. Guess you could say that about Wall Street too.

 

It's hard to tell. I mean could be. I was hoping in light of supposed record breaking holiday travel and winter Snowmageddon on the east, I'd of picked up some stranded travelers in Denver. Nope.

[Mocha]

Then perhaps the Universe is saying "Move to Orlando".

 

Lol, that was just an example. Orlando is a tricky market in itself, but goes to show that there's something to get into when I'm there.

 

But I am taking this party east.

[marylander1940]

I kinda just want to look at this from an imaginative point of view. Without the visual of ad links.

 

But yes, there has been an subtle increase in escorts, but mainly on BP. BP Denver is always full of listings.

 

The other thing is, I've often had clients in Denver say, "I used to see a guy regularly, but then he moved to...(usually far, far from Colorado). That makes me feel like maybe those other guys got sick of it too or things slowed down and they got up and left.

 

you'd be able to promote yourself if you post a link to your ad in this forum.

[BaronArtz]

It's hard to tell. I mean could be. I was hoping in light of supposed record breaking holiday travel and winter Snowmageddon on the east, I'd of picked up some stranded travelers in Denver. Nope.

 

I am sorry to hear that. Best of luck to you.

[Kuriousity]

Well, on the upside, relocating to Orlando would also put you in range of Tampa, so you would be able to cover two metro areas...

[Mocha]

Well, on the upside, relocating to Orlando would also put you in range of Tampa, so you would be able to cover two metro areas...

 

Good idea, but I tried it already and it never works as planned. Tampa and Denver, though 2,000 miles apart, would fall into the same category to me. Wayward and Finicky. I actually see many cars/people from around the Tampa Bay and North Florida area in Denver. So it reasons they'd share similar traits. Tampa also has a history of seedy prostitution, and I just don't think some the client's there respect escorts much. Plus I always grew

 

I was supposed to meet 2 clients in Tampa last month. One changed the appointment dates two or three times over the course of a few days. Another cancelled 4 hours before the scheduled afternoon visit because despite confirming the night before, I got his text too late in the morning. In both cases, I had planned to drive to Tampa.

 

Now Tucson, Arizona...I'll travel there. Tampa is on the do not call list. Like all the telemarketers and collection centers that are based there.

[Honestlittlefucker]

Mocha,

I gotta say, escorting does have a life expectancy.. I always tell my boys that soon enough people will want something new. To be honest, if you think that even the old escorts of the years are doing well its not true..

 

If you notice a lot of these escorts are going out of the country to try and get work because no one in the united states are hiring them. If they are, the top work they are getting is 3-4 jobs a month. Yes this does have a shelf life, its depressing if you have nothing else. or the 4-8g week paydays are gone and your lucky to get 500$ a month.

[sincitymix]

Well, on the upside, relocating to Orlando would also put you in range of Tampa, so you would be able to cover two metro areas...

 

Good idea, but I tried it already and it never works as planned. Tampa and Denver, though 2,000 miles apart, would fall into the same category to me. Wayward and Finicky. I actually see many cars/people from around the Tampa Bay and North Florida area in Denver. So it reasons they'd share similar traits. Tampa also has a history of seedy prostitution, and I just don't think some the client's there respect escorts much. Plus I always grew

 

I was supposed to meet 2 clients in Tampa last month. One changed the appointment dates two or three times over the course of a few days. Another cancelled 4 hours before the scheduled afternoon visit because despite confirming the night before, I got his text too late in the morning. In both cases, I had planned to drive to Tampa.

 

Now Tucson, Arizona...I'll travel there. Tampa is on the do not call list. Like all the telemarketers and collection centers that are based there.

 

well you could always research and find what area has the lowest percentage of African Americans, and set yourself up there.

My friends are always telling me to come move to Washington, Ohio, and Nebraska.. as there are nothing but white guys there and an Asian guy would be mobbed like crazy.. ( my friend has a thing for Asians and there are none in Nebraska apparently )

[Marlfox]

An escort who visits Perth regularly told me that if he stays in one city for an extended period he becomes part of the furniture and no one notices his ads. He therefore is constantly on the move, although with the limited number of decent sized cities here, I can't see that working indefinitely. He is not alone though. About half of the listings for escorts in Perth on Rentboyaustralia (no relation and still operating) are for visitors.

I'm sure they're not all here for the love of travel.

[+ José Soplanucas]

@Mocha , are you going to bless as setling down in DC? I saw you will be visiting soon, but in a bad week for me to meet you.

[Mocha]

@Mocha , are you going to bless as setling down in DC? I saw you will be visiting soon, but in a bad week for me to meet you.

 

Hey there...I am REALLY trying to get the DC going. Just with moving I've had to constantly switch my schedule around. But being I'm closer...it'll be easier to plan now. But yes, do keep an eye out ;-)

 

An escort who visits Perth regularly told me that if he stays in one city for an extended period he becomes part of the furniture and no one notices his ads. He therefore is constantly on the move, although with the limited number of decent sized cities here, I can't see that working indefinitely. He is not alone though. About half of the listings for escorts in Perth on Rentboyaustralia (no relation and still operating) are for visitors.

I'm sure they're not all here for the love of travel.

 

Hmm, interesting. But whats the time frame on that? A week, a month, a year? I mean, every travel city has its quiet days. Even If I moved somewhere and didn't get anything for a few days, but still got what I needed to thrive over a month, I'd be okay. What I'm not okay with, is Everytime I pick up the phone, it's a bunch of bullshit I'm staring at. Personally I'm okay with a few quiet days to finish what I need to do with other things, but over an extended period of time, it starts becoming an issue.

 

I don't know much about Au, but there seems to be some hot cities there, and in fact I used to have a couple Australian clients in Denver. So I know if I were to go there, it'd be own.

[Mocha]

well you could always research and find what area has the lowest percentage of African Americans, and set yourself up there.

My friends are always telling me to come move to Washington, Ohio, and Nebraska.. as there are nothing but white guys there and an Asian guy would be mobbed like crazy.. ( my friend has a thing for Asians and there are none in Nebraska apparently )

 

Lol, you're absolutely right about that. HOWEVER...while living in Denver I traveled to lots of surrounding states and towns where you'd see maybe 1 black person for every 1,000 white people. Including Nebraska lol. When push comes to shove, some of those places didn't really make a huge difference. I've gone to north and South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana....pretty much every western state west of the Mississippi I've gone to. Some towns and cities I'd have that one or 2 anchor client to make it all worth the while. But trying to get "business" in some of those towns were a different story. Even if someone was interested, they'd either be oblivious to paying for it, or too chicken shit to go thru with actually doing anything.

 

I remember couple years ago I went into an I hop and a couple other places in eastern South Dakota. You would have thought I was an alien from outer space. The stares, the questions...I was only there for a few hours and that was intense. Then, more recently I went to a town in Montana after visiting a client, just to check it out. Just to see what it's like. Had a few responses from the classifieds, but no one followed thru. Went to one guys place and he not only "thought I was a white guy", he also didn't know my Adam ad was for pay...and proceeded to mention he's had bad experiences with black guys. I didn't even get mad because I was on my out anyway, but I actually felt sorry for his ignorance. I think in reality he just wanted to see if I was real.

 

The things with guys in Denver, is after awhile they all became a bunch of liars. Lies, lies, lies. Both guys met and unmet. All a bunch of lies. It seems like a Midwestern thing because most of the people in Denver have roots in the Midwest (usually Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois and surrounding areas) no offense to anyone, correct me if I'm wrong). They lie about paying me, lie about taking me to dinner...I had to tell off two regulars before I left. One regular of 3 years always told me he'd take me to pappadeux. He'd always talk about him going and what he ordered and promised he'd take me there...since LAST, LAST year. When I told him I was moving, all he had to say was ask where I was going and "I wish you the best". I said, "so much for taking me to pappadeux, no big deal, my FLORIDA clients will take me to dinner." Another former regular lied like he was coming to see me before I left. Cancelled, then proceeded to wish me luck. I told him, I don't need luck and wishes from a liar. You can keep that. The guy showed up 3 times in the past, but cancelled/no showed about 5 times.

[sincitymix]

You would have thought I was an alien from outer space. The stares, the questions...I was only there for a few hours and that was intense.

 

I can certainly relate to that! I was about 16 or so, visiting an Ophthalmologist for some Lasik work in St. George, Utah. After the appointment, we went to a Denny's. My Dad parked the car, My Mom and I, got out and walked past the huge windows they had. EVERY person in Denny's was White, and they ALL stared and turned/swiveled heads as one mass unit. They literally stared at us and the heads kept on swiveling as we made our way to the door, inside, and to our seats. (it was VERY Creepy).. They only stopped when my Dad (who is white) walked in and sat down with us. However I could still feel the stares and hear the whispers. I really don't think I have ever felt more uncomfortable in a State in my life.. now that I think about it, I think I posted about a second very creepy Utah encounter I had also.. Something about Utah I guess.

[+ WmClarke]

The guy showed up 3 times in the past, but cancelled/no showed about 5 times.

After he cancels or no shows more than once, why did you even let him schedule an appointment?

[Mocha]

I can certainly relate to that! I was about 16 or so, visiting an Ophthalmologist for some Lasik work in St. George, Utah. After the appointment, we went to a Denny's. My Dad parked the car, My Mom and I, got out and walked past the huge windows they had. EVERY person in Denny's was White, and they ALL stared and turned/swiveled heads as one mass unit. They literally stared at us and the heads kept on swiveling as we made our way to the door, inside, and to our seats. (it was VERY Creepy).. They only stopped when my Dad (who is white) walked in and sat down with us. However I could still feel the stares and hear the whispers. I really don't think I have ever felt more uncomfortable in a State in my life.. now that I think about it, I think I posted about a second very creepy Utah encounter I had also.. Something about Utah I guess.

 

I don't get why some people don't get it that it's rude to stare. People always talk about the south being this and that, but the places that are really the most backwards seem to be in the west lol.

 

One of my first loves when I was like 17...he was from New York, New York. He moved to Tampa and had the culture shock of his life. He was Latin/White, tons of piercings. People would just stare, and make comments and ask questions. Everytime we went out, I was walking on eggshells because it wouldn't be long before some ignorant fuck made some ignorant fucking comment that would make him go off on someone.

 

I look back, and I'm just like that was like a prophecy to the very things I'd come to understand/experience about certain places in this country. If you're different, original, or not native to a city, life can be a struggle until you find the right place.

[Mocha]

After he cancels or no shows more than once, why did you even let him schedule an appointment?

 

Because once or twice, he'd show up later after he cancelled.

[Guest AnthonyDriller]

Good luck on everything.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Lol, you're absolutely right about that. HOWEVER...while living in Denver I traveled to lots of surrounding states and towns where you'd see maybe 1 black person for every 1,000 white people. Including Nebraska lol. When push comes to shove, some of those places didn't really make a huge difference. I've gone to north and South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana....pretty much every western state west of the Mississippi I've gone to. Some towns and cities I'd have that one or 2 anchor client to make it all worth the while. But trying to get "business" in some of those towns were a different story. Even if someone was interested, they'd either be oblivious to paying for it, or too chicken shit to go thru with actually doing anything.

 

I remember couple years ago I went into an I hop and a couple other places in eastern South Dakota. You would have thought I was an alien from outer space. The stares, the questions...I was only there for a few hours and that was intense. Then, more recently I went to a town in Montana after visiting a client, just to check it out. Just to see what it's like. Had a few responses from the classifieds, but no one followed thru. Went to one guys place and he not only "thought I was a white guy", he also didn't know my Adam ad was for pay...and proceeded to mention he's had bad experiences with black guys. I didn't even get mad because I was on my out anyway, but I actually felt sorry for his ignorance. I think in reality he just wanted to see if I was real.

 

The things with guys in Denver, is after awhile they all became a bunch of liars. Lies, lies, lies. Both guys met and unmet. All a bunch of lies. It seems like a Midwestern thing because most of the people in Denver have roots in the Midwest (usually Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois and surrounding areas) no offense to anyone, correct me if I'm wrong). They lie about paying me, lie about taking me to dinner...I had to tell off two regulars before I left. One regular of 3 years always told me he'd take me to pappadeux. He'd always talk about him going and what he ordered and promised he'd take me there...since LAST, LAST year. When I told him I was moving, all he had to say was ask where I was going and "I wish you the best". I said, "so much for taking me to pappadeux, no big deal, my FLORIDA clients will take me to dinner." Another former regular lied like he was coming to see me before I left. Cancelled, then proceeded to wish me luck. I told him, I don't need luck and wishes from a liar. You can keep that. The guy showed up 3 times in the past, but cancelled/no showed about 5 times.

 

You should try instead "White" states like Vermont and Maine. People is much more friendly and open minded not only about race but about everything.