Giving a second chance to no show escorts?

[gwguy]

Piggy backing off the other recent thread about no show clients...

 

What is everyone's opinion about escorts that don't keep their appointments? Do you give them another chance?

 

I had a pretty good experience with an escort on our first meet. I decided that I wanted to see him for my birthday so I traveled to him again only to be stood up with no communication from him until the day after.

 

As pissed as I was, I did give him another chance the next time I was in his city and it was amazing and better than the first time with him. So I was glad that I have him another chance.

 

BUT... Just yesterday he pulled another no call no show after traveling to see him and now I think I'm done trying with him.

 

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

[+ purplekow]

I have been stood up or cancelled on at the last minute three times. Two of these episodes occure with former Escorts of the Year. One I have not seen again. One I let go for a few years and have recently tried to reconnect, The third one, who was not an EOY but did get some first place votes, gave me a reasonable excuse hours before our meeting, so I set up another appointment. With even less notice than the first time, he gave me the same excuse when he cancelled at the last minute.

I tremendously enjoyed all of the actual meetings with these guys, but being stood up is no fun at all.

Giving an escort a second chance is also related to the availability of other choices.

[dcguy20]

I've learned not to give second chances after originally doing so. Both were NYC guys. One I had seen a couple of times (great time with him, too), but one time he was a complete no-show (no call, no nothing). When I reached out to him after returning to DC, he gave me some excuse. This time last year, he pulled a no show again. He reaches out to me every now and then asking when I'll be back in NYC so he can see me! Never going to happen.

 

I was in NYC two weeks ago. Made an appointment 24 hours in advance with someone I had seen frequently in NYC and DC. I texted him to confirm before heading into my show. When I turned my phone back on during intermission I received a response saying he wouldn't be able to make it. Didn't give me a reason, but asked if I was available after midnight. Not when I book you 24 hours in advance. He mentioned he'd be in DC in a few weeks. I don't plan on seeing him.

 

My tolerance for flaky behavior is non-existent.

[+ ArVaGuy]

I've had a few escorts cancel on me a couple of times. One was well known and has a ton of reviews. He contacted me the morning of our appointment and indicated he was not feeling well and would rather cancel than pass his cold on to me. I very much understood his reasons and we set a time for his next planned DC visit a few weeks later.

 

Well...the morning of that appointment he texted me to cancel again. I'm sure he did not recall the first cancellation. Same excuse was given, had a cold and didn't want to pass it to me. This was a bit too much of a coincidence for the same excuse. I did not reschedule another appointment and he has visited DC many times since then. The escort has also appeared in a Treasure Island scene recently so make of that what you will regarding his cold.

 

Another time had a much more positive outcome despite the guy canceling. I'd contacted a guy from Vancouver BC about two weeks out from a trip. We exchanged a lot of funny messages. We'd set the date and time and everything was confirmed. About three days prior to the appointment he informed me that he had a client who was going to hire him for a better deal and he would not be seeing me.

 

That was a shock. I was left high and dry with no options, or so I thought. But every cloud has a silver lining as the old saying goes. I found this advertisement on Rentboy for a hot looking Latin guy. His pictures were damn sexy and showed an incredible muscle body. That escort was......Juan Bruno from Vancouver. YES!!! Our very own Juan!!

 

So, this one escort cancelling on me led to my finding one of the sweetest, nicest, and hottest escorts in the business. Thank you Juan for some truly memorable experiences.

[Guest countryboywny]

I can only recall one time when an escort cancelled on me. I was well acquainted with him and knew his reason was totally legitimate, so other than being extremely disappointed, I understood. As far as second chances, I always go with my gut feeling about the situation. If I perceive that he is being honest about his reason for cancelling, whatever the reason I'm OK with it. That includes the "I've been offered a better gig" reason. I've said before that for me a lot depends on how bad I want to see the guy whether or not there's a second chance and if I think he's being honest. There is no reason to lie to me, but if I think he is, then no second chance no matter how hot I think he is.

[+ Keith30309]

Another time had a much more positive outcome despite the guy canceling. I'd contacted a guy from Vancouver BC about two weeks out from a trip. We exchanged a lot of funny messages. We'd set the date and time and everything was confirmed. About three days prior to the appointment he informed me that he had a client who was going to hire him for a better deal and he would not be seeing me.

 

I've had two experiences wherein an escort canceled 2-hr appontments where we had an agreed time and location because they had a higher-paying opportunity arise. One was about 18 hours before and the other a few hours after our agreed-upon time (really a no-show). Neither offered alternate arrangements - simply "I'm cancelling" without a 'sorry'.

 

The message I get from this is "I am breaking my commitment to you because I can make more money elsewhere."

I understand the profit motive and am not so naive as to expect someone to forego income, but I'll never attempt to hire either of those guys again and I think these kinds of experiences are suitable for sharing with others who inquire via the Forum or PM. Allot of the capital I look for in a hire is based on trust and if I can't trust you to honor our agreement then I'm likely to be uninterested in future business. (I suppose they could have lied to me and told me they were sick and I'd never have known the difference.)

 

Is my interpretation of the message being sent unfair?

[bigvalboy]

There is no reason to lie to me, but if I think he is, then no second chance no matter how hot I think he is.

Spot on...

[+ WmClarke]

Is my interpretation of the message being sent unfair?

No. It's spot on.

[jawjateck]

Depends on the guy, the reason/advance notice, and our past experience(s). I hire alot of newbies, so a cancellation/no-show usually means we will never meet.

 

And I can't comprehend a companion who tells a client he "got a better deal" elsewhere. Such noble honesty, eh? I think not. That's as dumb as a __________. But their self-revelation probably saves the client from something more unsavory down the line.

[keithhardy]

Does major winter storms count as an acceptable reason to cancel? I very rarely cancel but I just did this past weekend because I couldn't make it to NYC because of the weather. In my opinion anyone who cancels last min, particularly for something they knew well in advance, like "I woke up sick" and you are telling me this at 7pm, gets no second chances, unless of course they got in an accident on the way, or alike. If you wake up sick and tell me at 7am, so be it, second chance granted!!!! I have been canceled on last min and quite a few times the client has still paid me, which I think is an incredible gesture, these you know are the genuine guys as it relates to this relationship. I can honestly say, I have never canceled for "something better", I wouldn't want someone to do that to me, so I wouldn't do that to them.

[+ WmClarke]

Does major winter storms count as an acceptable reason to cancel?

Yes it does!

[gwguy]

I think canceling with a good reason is fine. But when there is no communication and it is a no show, it is not good business

[gwguy]

Hmmm why would an escort not show up on a client... The escort has more to lose than the client, the only reason I would think of an escort not showing up is they got another client whom is paying more

 

That's what I would think too... But I don't think he has a lot of clients. I could be wrong though. He has only had 1 review in 4 years and it was from me reviewing our second meet and was published just today... Two days after he stood me up with no communication. What great timing

[gwguy]

I don't know why 1 review in 4 years and it was from me made me laugh so hard lol

so maybe he didnt have another client... maybe he wasn't feeling good or had family emergency.

I mean its one thing to cancel last minute, its another thing for a person to cancel and not tell you.

 

And this was the second time he didn't communicate to me that he wasn't going to make the appointment. Shows me he isn't a professional and has no respect for others time or money (he knows I pay for travel to see him and hotel rooms)

[MikeyGMin]

A new guy who was just a no-show with no communication? Never call again.

A new guy who cancelled but communicated? Would try again.

A regular who I have an established relationship with? Would be tolerant.

A regular who makes my knees weak? Would forgive without batting an eye.

[mattr]

There are valid reasons for cancelling and the escort should reach out to the client as soon as he knows that he will be unable to meet the client. Having said that, there are very few valid reasons to cancel at the last minute and even fewer to be a no show (comatose or similar). The "better offer" reason is completely unacceptable. You made a commitment, you should stick with it. If you want to be treated like a professional, then act like one and run your business like one. What if the shoe were on the other foot? I make a commitment to see Escort B but at the last minute I find out Escort A is in town and available and is someone I really want to meet. How many escorts would be ok with, "Hey, I got a better offer so i am cancelling" from a client?

[Juan Vancouver]

Thank you Juan for some truly memorable experiences.

 

Thank you, man... you put a big smile on my face with all the memories! We miss you on this side of the world. Big kiss! Miss you.

[LADoug1]

I had one of the hottest and in-demand escorts cancel on me 2 hours before our appointment saying he was ill. He did it via email rather than a text (he had my number). I don't always check my email so it was fortunate that I did that day. His email was terse and he didn't offer another time etc. I was almost out the door and on my way to the appointment. I got the distinct feeling that he had either decided against the meeting or had a better offer. I wasn't pleased. It could have been handled in a more considerate manner. I wouldn't consider a second chance regardless of how hot he was.

[+ Truereview]

1. A new guy who was just a no-show with no communication? Never call again.
   
2. A new guy who cancelled but communicated? Would try again.
   
3. A regular who I have an established relationship with? Would be tolerant.
   
4. A regular who makes my knees weak? Would forgive without batting an eye.
   

+1 on the above except I would be restating my expectations for it not occur again on #3 & 4. If it happens a second time, they are off from my portfolio. My time is my most valuable asset. Don't screw with it more than once.

[Guest countryboywny]

I wasn't pleased. It could have been handled in a more considerate manner. I wouldn't consider a second chance regardless of how hot he was.

 

Your point on being considerate makes me wonder if some people are so far gone that they have no consideration for others. I'm thinking that if this guy had any respect at all for his clients, he would be apologetic and nicer about having to cancel.

I guess it's just me, but a little kindness and diplomacy goes a long way toward maintaining a good reputation.