Derek Atlas goes bareback

[mattr]

In his latest Randy Blue video, Derek fucks Cooper Dang bareback. I know that there has been a lot of controversy around Derek but I am wondering if this latest development will alter any opinions on him. I do have to say I love watching Derek's ass as he fucks...

[killianjamesnyc]

Will opinions be negative On this forum? Probably. But like someone said this is a very closed circuit community and largely doesn't represent the success of an escort. He's undoubtedly one of the most popular porn stars and escorts on the planet spanning thousands and thousands of fans around the world. For everyone who posts that says they wouldn't hire him, there are 25+ people texting him right this very second DYING to I know condom performers who get blown up their ass like free willy in heat. So your gonna BB with a condom performer who's company DOESN'T TEST THEM? only two condom studios I know of test and even then there are whispers of guys just "falling thru the cracks." don't be silly.

[MiamiLooker]

Will opinions be negative On this forum? Probably.

I would think on this forum, opinions will likely be positive.

[mike carey]

Will opinions be negative On this forum?

You're right there are strong opinions here about BB. Some of those opinions here will be positive, some will be negative. In a world where you never know if a hookup is + or - I don't understand it. Guys like you and Derek have two separate businesses to maintain. Safer sex is my responsibility as a client. Any escort I hire could be scrupulously engaged in safer sex, but that doesn't guarantee that he won't acquire an STI.

[Tigger]

I would think on this forum, opinions will likely be positive.

 

Don't be too sure of that. A lot of us aren't into hiring guys who bareback.

 

For everyone who posts that says they wouldn't hire him, there are 25+ people texting him right this very second DYING to

 

And DYING might be the result.

[mattr]

I agree with Killian. I am always a little surprised that the fact that someone may bareback, disqualifies them as a possible hire to so many people on here. I would never bareback myself but I would not eliminate someone who does from consideration.

[JDXXX]

OK - this is bizarre in a way because if memory serves me correctly why would his involvement in bareback activity be a positive result, but for other escorts it's a negetive?

 

Doesn't make any sense whatsoever if that's the case as if your supposedly someone who's against bareback PERIOD, then why would it become positive all of sudden?

 

Just because it's Derek Atlas?

 

Would be unfair to give high accreditation to one person for barebacking, but wanna knock down everyone else as there have been alot of skepticism about such activity on the forum. It'll be hypocrisy to see one well-known escort and porn star such as Derek get such acclaim for doing bareback seeing how other escorts on this forum have been literally crucified for doing such a thing.

 

If you can have a change of heart and be open-minded on barebacking for one escort - should be the same for others too.

[+ purplekow]

I like ice cream. So does my 18 year old nephew. Vanilla, chocolate, strawberry and at the Creamery I went to recently I noticed a flavor called Rock the Cashew. I asked if there were peanuts in Rock the Cashew because my nephew is very allergic. He keeps an epi-pen because he has had anaphylactic reactions. The counterman did not know whether or not there were peanuts in Rock the Cashew but they were not listed as an ingredient. I bought it and gave it to my nephew anyway. He is deciding whether or not to eat it right now. Should he eat the Rock the Cashew which is new and I must say delicious, or should he just eat the Vanilla Bean which he likes a lot and which has not caused him problems?

[mike carey]

I don't think it's anything to do with who is doing it JD, so nothing to do with the fact that Derek Atlas may have been involved, and barebacking certainly isn't a 'positive'. The point I was making (and others I think) is that with what we know about safer sex, having safer sex with your own companions is far more important than what either of you had done before with others. When we hook up, we NEVER know what our partners have done in the past, so I don't see that knowing that an escort has had unprotected sex constitutes an unacceptable risk.

[mattr]

I like ice cream. Vanilla, chocolate, strawberry and at the Creamery I went to recently I noticed a flavor called Rock the Cashew. I asked if there were peanuts in Rock the Cashew because my nephew is very allergic. He keeps an epi-pen because he has had anaphylactic reactions. The counterman did not know whether or not there were peanuts in Rock the Cashew. I bought it and gave it to my nephew anyway.

 

I don't see the parallel. If we strictly follow your allegory, then no one should ever have sex with anyone that they are 100% sure is free from any STD's. A better example might be that I know that I could die every time I get in my car. I understand the risk and choose to drive anyway. I mitigate those risks by wearing a seat belt,keeping my car in good repair, not being impaired when I drive, etc.

[JDXXX]

I don't think it's anything to do with who is doing it JD, so nothing to do with the fact that Derek Atlas may have been involved, and barebacking certainly isn't a 'positive'. The point I was making (and others I think) is that with what we know about safer sex, having safer sex with your own companions is far more important than what either of you had done before with others. When we hook up, we NEVER know what our partners have done in the past, so I don't see that knowing that an escort has done unprotected sex constitutes an unacceptable risk.

 

You're right. I agree. . Good point indeed.

[RadioRob]

I don't get these threads as they come up every few months honestly. I assume EACH and EVERY person I sleep with (be it an escort or not) is positive and protect myself accordingly. I don't trust anyone with that amount of possible control of my life.

 

I've said this before, and I'll say it again... I don't care what an escort does when we're not together. That's their personal time. I sure as well am not paying them enough to dictate their life. My only ask is that when we have our time together that they are prepared to make me the center of the universe.

 

Who else they have slept with (man/woman), how they slept with them, or how many they've slept with simply is none of my business. Each escort should be a professional and know their limits and what they can or cannot do. They should plan accordingly when we agree to a date/time.

[mike carey]

I don't get these threads as they come up every few months honestly.

Rob, I agree completely. The issue that KJ raised and what always seems to happen here is that some people are obsessed with escorts who give even a hint of barebacking. As you said, people need to treat every sexual liaison as if the other person is positive (and to be mindful of other STIs). If you do that whatever else they may have done becomes irrelevant.

[+ purplekow]

I don't see the parallel. If we strictly follow your allegory, then no one should ever have sex with anyone that they are 100% sure is free from any STD's. A better example might be that I know that I could die every time I get in my car. I understand the risk and choose to drive anyway. I mitigate those risks by wearing a seat belt,keeping my car in good repair, not being impaired when I drive, etc.

I never said anything about whether or not my nephew should eat the ice cream. Your attributed that to me, possibly based on your own bias, but after all, I gave him the ice cream. All I asked was should he eat it. I am inferring from your answer is that he should get out his epi-pen and chow down. That certainly is one option.

[jawjateck]

I don't get these threads as they come up every few months honestly.

 

More like every 2 or 3 days.

[mike carey]

I am inferring from you answer that he should get out his epi-pen and chow down. That certainly is one option.

Yes it is. The big difference is that it is an after the fact reaction. But it's still a valid comparison.

 

It's as if there were a precautionary action you could take before eating something that may contain nuts if you are allergic to them. You don't know that the food contains nuts but you want to be safe. Safer sex is that sort of precaution. You don't know you have a risk of infection but you take measures to mitigate any possible risk.

[adventurous old guy]

Safer sex is my responsibility as a client. Any escort I hire could be scrupulously engaged in safer sex, but that doesn't guarantee that he won't acquire an STI.

 

Totally agree. And am pretty surprised by escorts I've been with who are willing to BB. The times, they are a changin' I guess, but underscores Mikc's point that having supplies and pausing to use them in the heat of the moment is my responsibility.

[ChrisWydeman]

I would post a picture of beating a dead horse but I don't want to be morbid. I think the forum members like a hint of scandal so they can be outraged.

[Edward]

I think that prep has changed the game for BB in porn. Those that are negative can stay that way BBing if they are on prep. That not saying they will BB with clients. There are other thing that can be transmitted besides HIV.

[Rick Munroe]

He is deciding whether or not to eat it right now.

 

Didn't it melt while you were composing and posting that comment?

[sincitymix]

Didn't it melt while you were composing and posting that comment?

Its a valid concern.. usually products with nuts in them are processed on the same line with other nuts.. so there could be a chance it has peanut contamination of some sort.

[mike carey]

I would post a picture of beating a dead horse but I don't want to be morbid.

Yep, same assertions, same arguments every time!

[Rick Munroe]

Its a valid concern.. usually products with nuts in them are processed on the same line with other nuts.. so there could be a chance it has peanut contamination of some sort.

 

Well, if the kid likes ice cream soup, then more power to him.

[ChrisWydeman]

Yep, same assertions, same arguments every time!

If I didn't know better I would say the forum member like to clutch their pearls ;-)

[MikeyGMin]

It should be irrelevant unless YOU want to BB and think this might make him more receptive to it. Bet it won't. Whether your companion goes bare or not shouldn't matter as long as you plan on wrapping it up for your session. Many here turn it into some kind of moral flaw on their part.

 

I also agree with Killian. Derek is at the top of his game. From what I hear, he has a very full dance card. I've also heard he's a ton of fun if you can get that dance.