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bigvalboy Grand Master

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I am wondering how making that bold business advancing gesture is going to discredit someone. In fact, might someone who is bold and inventive enough to try and advance their chosen career in this manner, deserve extraconsideration for EOY in view of their business promotion style.

Even better that anyone who was solicited naming names,, how about that the innovator step forward and take credit for acumen in furthering his chances for EOY or is this just a sub rosa campaign?

 

You already know the answer to the questions you propose, but that wasn't my point. I'll reiterate, the discussion, as far as I'm concerned should stick to the original topic, and that is, should soliciting for EOY be done at all. Nothing more nothing less. So if you or others here care to start outing those doing the soliciting is fine by me, but I am not going to do that. This is not a witch hunt, and taking into account the lack of civility from other threads, that's exactly what this would become. Y'all enjoy your weekend...;)

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killianjamesnyc Enthusiast

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So here it blows. After not participating more frequently for a while, I think this is the perfect time. I just have one very very simple question: What.the.fuck. is even happening here?

 

When I first joined the forum I was like "WOW, I wonder what it'd be like to get that tiara placed on my head like Chris." Chris makes being crowed look good, hope your doing well pal :)

 

Fast forward two years later, here we are. The rumors, the backstabbing, the hurt feelings, people literally acting like a kid in 5th grade jumping up and down desperately wanting to be picked for the kick ball team, then crying because he wasn't picked. Guys, we are all grown men, and women, shout out to all my ladies and guys who act like proper ladies, I got you too!

 

Will I be attending the DC forum event this year? I'm 99% sure I won't be there. Now why do you ask? Considering the amount of drama about an award that's supposed to go to the most deserving escort, I can't see how this event could be anyway enjoyable. If I want to see table flipping I'll go to my mothers house and watch her and my grandmother fight on Christmas Eve over the fish being too dry, were Italian this shit happens. If I want to listen to an entire recap of the forum drama for an entire weekend with large pink elephants in the room I'll be a part of it and be front and center, but I doubt it.

 

JD, your a nice person and clearly a very good escort, so what is the issue? This ambition? This drive for escort glory? According to your reviews and stories it sounds like you arrived quite some time ago dude. Like I told you from the start as much as you think this award matters, it doesn't. All the guys who have won will probably say that it only slightly increased their notoriety. All this for a little crown and a title that I'm sorry, I can't see it helping someone who has been doing this for 15 years and has already proved himself 100x over. Now ask yourself if you do win where do you go from here? What comes up must come down, keep climbing and never want to reach the top. As they say everyone is replaceable when they reach the top, someone will get that award in 2017.

 

Let's cut the shit, vote by email or in public if you so chose for your favorite guy with a few nice comments and let's leave it at that. Let's try to vote only for the escorts you meet as you want this to be nothing like the Hokies. On a personal note I thank all who mentioned me but never met me. This is your challenge for 2016. Try to meet, email and get to know the guys who you want to be contenders for this next year. As they say the proof is in the pudding, now swallow it.

 

That's all I have to say. Happy HOE and HO LIDAYS, be safe, cheer up and see you next year...somewhere :)

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purplekow Grand Master

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You already know the answer to the questions you propose, but that wasn't my point. I'll reiterate, the discussion, as far as I'm concerned should stick to the original topic, and that is, should soliciting for EOY be done at all. Nothing more nothing less. So if you or others here care to start outing those doing the soliciting is fine by me, but I am not going to do that. This is not a witch hunt, and taking into account the lack of civility from other threads, that's exactly what this would become. Y'all enjoy your weekend...;)

Interesting to use the word "outing" which is usually a revelation against someone's will which is related to someone trying to hide something of which they are ashamed. You specifically placed it in italics. Very very Godfather like. Again, the praise for this campaign has come from many quarters. Perhaps many people are doing this. Perhaps you are correct, may a separate thread should be started to address it and I would gladly post there if such a thread is started. But for me, it is a pertinent part of this discussion.

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Like I told you from the start as much as you think this award matters, it doesn't.

 

Thanks, and sorry I egged the shit on for so long, I just thought the emergency part was so comical. I will respect James' request as when I first joined he gave me some amazing advice that I still and will continue use in my daily practice.

Thanks again.

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You can solicit appropriately if you are classy enough about doing so. If not done suavely, I think it's easy to be sleazy, but if you're stellar enough to be in the voting pool, the fact that you solicited isn't going to tip the balance away from you towards someone who is sitting quietly in the corner hoping people vote for him. Campaigning is often ugly, but if you don't solicit, people will ding you as lacking common business sense or being too diffident to be a good escort. If you don't self-promote, people will think you don't care or don't exude the confidence needed for a good experience. No one will reward you for failing to solicit. But if solicit so poorly as to tell people that voting for you is an "emergency," then you probably will and should be dinged.

EOY is a great honor, but instead of soliciting, I believe I should be spending time thanking those did vote for me and trying to further my relationships with my existing clients. I'm thankful to those people who didn't click with me for not publicly berating me. I'm incredibly thankful to the guy who sent me flowers, and the guy who joined the forum for the sole purpose of voting for me.

 

I think a classier way to solicit would be to try to book appointments with people you know will cast a vote. It's not the best way to generate revenue or enjoy the job or see the clients you want to see, but it's a way of campaigning for EOY indirectly.

 

It would be awesome if clients could just email escorts in advance of the voting, and say, "I'm voting for you for EOY" and obviate the need for escorts to solicit business, but that may be a horrible idea that I haven't really thought through completely.

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WilliamM Grand Master

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Campaigning is often ugly, but if you don't solicit, people will ding you as lacking common business sense or being too diffident to be a good escort. If you don't self-promote, people will think you don't care or don't exude the confidence needed for a good experience. No one will reward you for failing to solicit. But if solicit so poorly as to tell people that voting for you is an "emergency," then you probably will and should be dinged.

 

My first comment in this thread.

 

If you contact people whom you do not know for votes, especially more than once, it is a one-sided relationship. I would neither vote for nor hire that person.

 

Like most clients, I want to hire someone who either has a bit of interest in me, or at least can fake it.:)

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As I stated in my prior post on this thread, I don't think it's a big deal for an escort to solicit my vote. BUT, when the backstabbing starts and all the other superfluous drama that goes with it, I think it's good to keep one thing in mind:

 

The Escort of the Year is chosen by Daddy and Daddy only. It's good that Daddy asks for our opinions (votes) in his process, and I think that he gives them weight in his decision. But the bottom line is that if Daddy wishes to select an "Escort of the Year" who did not receive a single vote from us, he is perfectly entitled to do so. It's his sandbox.

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