Sugguestions On How To Make Right Of Questionable Misunderstandings!!

[Brian Kevin]

And Raquel—take that fucking jacket off.

 

I died of laughter

[+ stevenkesslar]

I was really only looking for a reason to post a link to that Truck Turner video without it seeming like a non sequitur.

 

No problem. And please make sure you invite all your friends in the video to the party in Palm Springs. It will help integrate it.

[Rudynate]

Quit being a product and be a person.

 

Wisdom for the ages. But I wouldn't have expected anything less.

[JDXXX]

In my limited interaction with him, JD has been extremely nice to me. His reviews are stellar, and his forum postings impeccable. Truly the paragon of escorts. However, after much sleuthing, I was able to engender a piece of constructive criticism for JD. "Please only put the City, and specific Dates in the subject." JD's most recent posting on the escort travels section complies with this post, but his previous two posts fail to comply with said rule.

 

I'm available to find legitimate fault with other escorts on an as-needed basis. That is all, carry on.

 

Thanks Mike for your encouraging input as I will take what you said with a "spoon full of sugar" as you giving me constructive criticism. Been getting that a lot lately as you see. . How nice huh?

[JDXXX]

It is 11:45 on the east coast. I have a few fractured ribs, so I need some sleep.

 

I may be one of the few people here who saw Judy Garland perform in person in 1961, and twice in 1967.

 

So for me, the last JD post will have to wait until later. The evening ends for me with "The Wizard of Oz."

 

Sorry William my post took longer than expected. I had to carefully plan out and reminance on what I was going to say in the my long, and never-ending post. There were a lot of information to cover, and glad to a certain degree my confession is out there now, and that people know - Yes, JD can has made mistakes here and there. I'm human being who too can make mistakes as well as anyone else on the forum, but taking all this constructive criticism with a grain of salt as a learning lesion.

[JDXXX]

My 2 cents on this thread: I am of two minds about what I've read and I realize that's my work to do - to align my differing opinions. No postings, responses, words of wisdom, phone calls, buddies, etc will do that for me. I gotta do that on my own with no set timeline but what feels right to me. I also should share I don't know JD or Juan...frankly, I don't know any of the posters except for friendly banter and fun via the forum. I should also say I'm a new forum member (started this September) but a long time contributor to Daddy's reviews section. Despite not knowing Daddy I have a deep appreciation for what his vision seems to be for this forum.

 

My first reaction - personal & emotional. After reading this thread in its entirety, I felt sorry for me and all of us....why must we tear each other down when the real world can cause so much pain already? What good comes out of sharply-toned feedback and defensiveness? Could we instead possibly just try to lift each other up? Don't get me wrong, I've chosen to be nasty and I have ocassionally fallen into a negative spiral in this forum -shame on me. I've promised to myself since last week - after a particularly nasty exchange with another forum member - to be a kinder version of myself. Not fake, just better! The good thing that's so cool about the forum is the freedom to express opinions, but the bad thing is how anonymity can tap into negative behaviors that our own moral compass would never fail to filter in the real world. Anyway, I digress...my point is that maybe we should act towards each other with more kindness and when someone needs our feedback, use a PM! IMHO, one-on-one is how you make right of questionable misunderstandings.

 

My second reaction. From a client perspective . I had a thing for Juan since I saw his pix and his incredible gift for writing. I had a thing for JD since I saw his warm welcome and his unapologetic approach to just being himself. From this thread I've learned one thing: neither one of them will ever be a choice for me as a client. My loss, I'm sure. However, I rather live with my loss than give of myself to two folks who would so embarrassingly and publicly treat each other like this - despite JD's final attempts at civility in his last post. Why take such drastic measures? Bc if they can act like this with each other -strong, handsome, able-bodied, young, physically gifted and privileged men- imagine what could happen to me when I put my old, rickety self in their hands? When I hire, I hire for intimacy and I give myself completely...their exchange here decided it for me. No way ever. It also makes me pause as to whether I would ever want to hire and get to know a companion outside my portfolio. Is it worth the effort when such exchanges occur amongst colleagues? I dare say "no" - not worth venturing out.

 

Simply stated, JD & Juan...my emotional side says: cool it, make up, and stop tearing each other down. My client and logical side says: this thread may have been cathartic for you, but it was not good for you, not good for business, not good for your fellow professionals, not good emotionally, and not good for the forum that I hope I had joined.

 

With utmost respect, - TR

 

Good Afternoon Trueview -

 

Thank you very much for your sincere and informative post. I was quite impressed by your expression and emotion by reading this thread, and how it impacted you in a negative way of both parties involved for which I've never intended for anyone to feel as when I created this thread.

 

I don't know some of the forum members realize is that the purpose as to why this thread was created was to be used as a positive self-help tool, and was heading down the right path.

 

Unfortunately, a retch was thrown at me somewhere along the way with negative post, and that's when this self-help post went from a positive to a negative impact.

 

After carefully reading your response(2 times) it sadden me even more that this post that Juan came out with that was meant to help along the thread by giving constructive criticism costed both of us the opportunity from ever meeting with you as a client. I said in my 3 or 4 page post, that it was Juan's decision to air out such dirty laundry as I had NOTHING to do such a post. I would have NEVER(You hear me) said what he said in the thread, and due to that it did hurt not only my credibility, but his as well for which I was afraid. Why do you think I said in my past post - he may felt he was trying to help me, but "slamming" me is not a good way to help see someone succeed. You don't make yourself look good by "slamming" someone publically and think your gonna get a great reaction out of it(even if his post was well-liked look at what you posted in the end as to why you wouldn't hire neither one of us).

 

Sweetheart, you are entitled to pick and choose whoever you want to hire, and am sooooooo sorry that Juan's post influenced your decision in possibly hiring us in the future. I can't however take back what Juan said about me as I feel bad and extremely embarrassed he made such an exaggerated statement of me public. Others(myself included) would have preferred he went a different route by discussing such a disturbance in a more private form(for which I would have done on a professional level as you saw me do), but he's his own person, and what he does to get his points across on the forum has nothing to do with me. All I can do is take in what he and others have said, and use it as a learning tool to do better in the future for which I have.

 

I didn't intend for this thread(just so you know) go upside down like it did. I created this thread as a learning tool for me to make the right decisions in turning a negative situation into a positive outcome, and for some reason, some people who are ANTI-JD felt it's a good tool to "slam" me I guess, and that wasn't the intent or nature of why I created this thread.

 

Again Trueview, I am very sorry if you view me and Juan as tearing each other down as I didn't intend for this to happen, and didn't take a feud I may have had with someone public. I could have did this to Juan a long time ago on any of his threads, but didn't. I don't believe in "slamming" other escorts or clients. Why would I do that to someone as it's not only disrespectful, but just plain cruel to do so, and the fact it was done to me by someone else - I have to suffer the consequences for they're unjust actions? Wow. Now I've heard it all. LOL.

 

Like I said in a past thread, I thought me and Juan came to an understanding over a year ago, and made up from that awkward event, but it was news to me when he came out with the post that there was still ill feelings about it, so all I can do is try to fix it by explaining my side which was - somethings were "exaggerated" as my recollection of our interaction was it was settled back last year of our disagreement as we put it in the grave to rest, and let it go. Unfortunately, he didn't apparently, and he demonstrated by him making it public like he did. Was that my fault? Absolutely not as I didn't ask him to say the things he said in the post to not only discredit me, but himself as well.

 

Juan is a wonderful man with a lot of great qualities with a kind heart. We're cool as I have no malice toward him for this and he doesn't dislike me in anyway as I'm sure we'll talk and put this all behind us in the end as I have no hatred or anger towards him. I adore the man, and do feel in someways he was trying to help, but just wasn't good form to make it as public as he did which was the only mistake I think he made, but it's done, and we move on from it bosom buddies I guess you can say. LOL.

 

Now if I can be open-minded and forgiving like this, I would hope others can be as forgiving and kind towards me in the same manner as none of us are perfect as we ALL make mistakes in one form or another, and that's a true fact whether others want to admit it or not.

 

Juan claim I made some mistakes with him in an "awkward" phone exchange that were between me and him that I can learn from that gave both parties a bad impression of one another - maybe so, and admire his honesty on that, but guess what, now from what you just admitted will make him understand and realize his decisions have costed him something too - a potential client in the future. Costed BOTH parties involved a client I'm afraid.

 

So, even Juan here is not perfect which goes to show even people on his status as "EOY" can make costly mistakes from time-to-time. It's all part of being a human, and that's OK. Lol.

 

I appreciate his honesty along with everyone else who participated, and will change somethings on how I reach out to others from this point on. We live and learn from our mistakes, and now is my time to take all this information in, and use it as a learning tool for future interactions to come..

 

Thanks again for your kind words, thoughts, wisdom, and suggestions as it was really well put, and sorry this experience between me and Juan has left a bad taste in your mouth, but again - it was a negative impact I didn't mean to happen or predict happen here on the thread, and have to overcome this embarrassment. All one can do is fix the mistake, and move forward.

 

Don't worry, me and Juan will kiss and make up, and come out of this laughing. Like I said, baby - he's still a great guy, and do still think the world of him regardless as he did point out along with everyone else some valuable info that was helpful, and I admire him for his words of wisdom. He's still a good man regardless to what he posted publically. Hopefully you will reconsider one day in giving us a chance to fulfill your needs in the future as it would be a delight to meet you, and get to know you, as you getting to know us.. .

 

Have a great weekend, and many thanks.

 

HUGS,

[MiamiLooker]

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[Brian Kevin]

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Ouch :'(

[+ WilliamM]

Sorry William my post took longer than expected. I had to carefully plan out and reminance on what I was going to say in the my long, and never-ending post it seemed, but there were a lot to cover, and glad to a certain degree my confession is out there, and that people know - Yes, JD can fuck up at times too, and I am a human being who too can make mistakes as well as anyone else on the forum, but taking all this constructive criticism with a grain of salt as a learning lesion

 

I was aware of the criticism, especially in the last several months. The critical comments came from people whom I completely trust. It was not on the same level as Juan's, but it was from the heart and from people who do not usually complain. Since we know each other, I wish I had the balls to tell you. I apologize.

 

JD, back off on emails/PMs to people whom you do not know. I know you have wishes and asperations (all valid). But everyone has dreams and aspirations that they may not get a chance to talk and write about with you. Every conversation does not have to include equal time for both participants, but it can not be one-sided either. You know me well enough to be aware that it was difficult to write this. As important, I know it was difficult for you to read it from someone who always likes and supports you and still does.

[+ WilliamM]

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It was one thing to laugh at the collection for the Rentboy7. It is worse to post something like this.

[JDXXX]

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I'm sorry you feel that way, but hey calling me stupid just makes you look bad - not me. But I do wish you a good day otherwise, ML.

 

.

 

[MiamiLooker]

It was one thing to laugh at the collection for the Rentboy7. It is worse to post something this this.

 

If you think Juan is to blame for JD’s gasping for air, he isn’t. JD should accept responsibility for himself and stop blaming everyone else.

 

And, I never laughed at the Rentboy7 fund. I wasn’t convinced, as were millions of others, including the thousands of escorts that advertised on the site throughout the years that it was a fund I wanted to support. I did, though, get a chuckle out of your post that you wouldn’t ask those that know and care for you to contribute.

[JDXXX]

And we wouldn't be fair if we didn't let Mary Poppins get a last word in.

 

You know, JD. All we want is for you to be practically perfect in every way. That's all. Take it as a compliment. Because we know you can be.

 

And when you think about it, that's not the same as saying you should be perfect. Nobody is.

 

Case in point, I think we all just fucked up, BIG TIME.

 

All this talk about porn and pizza and black bitches and all.

 

We forgot all about the children.

 

It's a beautiful day in Palm Springs. I know what I'm gonna do.

 

 

I know, baby you only want what's best for me, and I appreciate it as I'm gonna take all of this and turn something's around - BIG TIME!!! I'm glad to be getting a lot of informative comments that'll are beneficial for me to take in and use.

 

I think from now on people wont have to worry about me being so overly nice anymore as I see by doing so it brings a lot of problems, so just need to use a different approach. Always will be a nice guy, but just tone it down a little but as some people here on the forum don't like one who is just "too nice, and sincere" it seems based on the re-actions here.

 

Good to take in what everyone has shared, and implement a new way of when to communicate, and NOT communicate.

[MiamiLooker]

It's "COMMENT" not "COMMIT" unless this is some Freudian slip

[Brian Kevin]

I'm not trying to cut anyone throat here or throw any kind of shade.

 

But I love you, you love me, we're a happy family.

 

The End.

(of this posts life)

 

Probably for the greater good of everyone!

 

**Topic closed**

 

o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O

[+ WilliamM]

I did, though, get a chuckle out of your post that you wouldn’t ask those that know and care for you to contribute.

 

Chuckle away. As I wrote at the time, I have never in my life asked anyone to contribute to any charity or any other fund.

[BaronArtz]

So much time and effort wasted on writing posts on this thread. Shouldn't you be taking care of clients instead? That is a far more profitable use of your time.

 

If only the collection for 'rentboy7' (or is that 'Jeffrey') would generate this level of enthusiasm ...

[JDXXX]

Closure:

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I wanna take this opportunity to say Thank you to everyone here on the forum who participated in the thread by sharing your thoughts, tough love, and giving some intense, but harsh constructive criticism at me that may have been hard to hear at times and even hurtful to the core, but useful to apply in everyday situations to different people with different personalities that may or may NOT match up to expectations on both sides of the spectrum.

 

Grant it not, I didn't expect the thread towards the end to get so intense by literally having my head almost chopped off, but in the end of it all, I wanna give some type of warmth, healing, compassion and closure now to know I got everyone's messages and concerns loud and clear, and how sorry I am to have been an intrusion to some people. Not all, but some who may not like me for whatever reasons as I'm starting to feel confident that it's okay for everyone not to like each other. Fine - I can live with that, and deal with those who do think well of me, and take everything I've learned here from past experiences on the thread, and apply that shared knowledge from others on my everyday social skills for the better.

 

Again, I sincerely apologize if I may have offended anyone or caused any discomfort in my ability to communicate freely here on the forum as It was meant to be no harm, and out of all good intentions. I see some people are open-minded in getting to know others, and some are not as it's taken as pushing too hard. I don't see me pushing too hard as I have had other clients and escorts reach out to me here on the forum at time and welcome it with open arms, but that's just me enjoying new people - it's the same with escorts or clients contacting me. I think

 

Trust me, everybody when I say I know better now, and gonna learn from my mistakes as I didn't mean to be of any trouble to anybody of my past interactions with "certain" people who don't care to know me, I'm sorry if I stepped on your toes by going overboard in reaching out and being selfish to "certain" situations by intruding in someone else's space by PM's or "Self-Promoting".

 

 

I hope this can be of some good closure where my apology can be accepted, and those that are not accepting to my plea, and still in "dislike" mode, then I wish you all the best anyway as not everyone is gonna like me, and I realize that, and always have for years. It's a part of life as we deal with it, and move on.

 

Certain do's and dont's I was ignorant to, and unaware here on the forum, I'm wiser with now now, and will handle in a different way with a different set of eyes, and with a different attitude from now on. LOL. Just know I only had good intentions, and didn't mean for these misunderstandings to get out of hand, and do take FULL responsibility for any damage or drama I caused.

 

That's why this thread was created is to get exposure from those who may not see eye-to-eye with me, but for you guys who do have some negative views on me to open up and make those negative views a positive impact in a GENTLE way. Not to "slam" or slander me or others. LOL. That wasn't in the deck of cards I'm afraid.

 

Thank you everybody for participating, and even though some parts of the thread wasn't pleasant at times, they're were some good parts to this. All of you who like me, and dislike me gave some good advice that were informative, direct, and hard-core wisdom that is gonna be useful, and sustaining as to how I handle people better here on the forum helpful down the line.

 

Many Thank You's to ALL of you who were involved, and again - I'm sorry if I stepped on anyone's toe's, and hope from the bottom of my heart you all who are not so JD friendly can truly forgive me, and move forward from this being friend, and start with a clean slate. . Wish we all were in the same room for me to give you guys(who are ANTI-JD) a hug.

 

I'm not perfect in any way, but am humble, and do care about other's feelings besides my own which is why I'm saying let's end this in Peace, and just love one another. We've been through a lot - I been through a lot from this experience/thread, and do think it's time to come to a beautiful closure now, and just love one another like Brian Kevin has said. Thank you, Brian for sharing those comforting words to us as it is well needed right now in order for all of us to heal.

 

http://emilysquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/EmilysQuotes.Com-forgive-peace-wisdom-positive.jpg

 

Think I've been crucified enough, and now it's time for us to forgive.

 

Now - can we kiss, make up, and love one another now? I am. .

 

Let's go have some Pizza, everyone. YAY!!!

 

http://www.champspizza.com/images/pizza.jpg

 

HUGS,

[JDXXX]

I'm not trying to cut anyone throat here or throw any kind of shade.

 

But I love you, you love me, we're a happy family.

 

The End.

(of this posts life)

 

Probably for the greater good of everyone!

 

**Topic closed**

 

o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O

 

Thank you, Brian as you know I love you as well, and thanks for the message as it's very inspiring to receive for everyone to break free of the negativity and come together for the better.

[JDXXX]

To sum up...

 

Don't cold call clients. Especially ones that you've never met.

Asking for advice means actually wanting it.

If the Forum has turned against you, make them a cake in the shape of a free blow job.

EOY means something for about ten minutes—or until the first person posts that you didn't deserve it. #thenitmeanseverythinghahafuckers

If choosing between [your escort name here] and [your escort name here]™, most people will pick the first one. Quit being a product and be a person.

Please don't use the word "sweetie." Ever again. It's about as sexy as "tallywacker."

 

That is all. Now get out there and make it look good. And Raquel—take that fucking jacket off.

 

 

#irealizenoneofthesethingswereactuallysaidbutperhapstheyneededtobe

 

Thank you, Chris as this is inspiring coming from you, and means a lot coming from the heart as I never forgot your "words of wisdom. You always know how to make me laugh. LOL. .

 

Thanks Brother.

 

Wanna join us for pizza? I hope you like big "huge" chunks of "sausages" on yours?

 

HUGS,

[JDXXX]

Thanks, JD. Here's my special advice, from the bottom of my heart.

 

 

That is how it is done, JD. Short, simple, sincere.

 

We both like to talk. A lot. In this case, though, it all boils down to two words: "I'm sorry."

 

 

 

I know you well enough to know you meant those words. You should have stopped there.

 

Now, it really is time for you to listen to Renee and shut up. You have my hugs. But mostly I think it's time for you to shut up and to reflect on what you can learn about yourself from this. Not about Juan, or about racism, or about the people who've made you one of the most financially successful and respected escorts in the United States. About you. Right now, this is all about you.

 

With all due respect to Steve Henson, BVB - I can't tell you how many times I jacked off to that video - I'll go with pizza.

 

 

You know at the time I wrote the long-winded post...I had my reason which were more then valid considering the circumstances involved, but have got it out in the open and now am gonna handle things here on the forum differently. Take all of this as a learning lesion for the better.

 

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[JDXXX]

NOW y'all want to order pizza?. I tried ordering pizza over an hour ago....Y'all do what you want. I'm going to pop in a copy of that video. I don't generally give advice unless I think the person receiving it will seriously consider what I am saying. In this case, when all is said and done, Mr. Kessler is right, this is not about Juan or Miami, or racism, or anyone of your detractors out there, it is about you JD. Step away from the key board, go get some fresh air, and take a nice long walk, think about what has transpired in this thread, think of what was accomplished by it, if anything at all. Go back and re-read Steven's posts, and then read them again and again, and think about what Steven is trying to tell you. That's my advice. ....Wishing you all the best.

 

And yes Mr. Kessler, that might be hands down one of the best videos of all time.

 

I ordered my Meatlover pan pizza over 4 hours ago. YUMMM!!

 

Thanks BVB,

 

I have thought about it lonnnnng and hard all-weekend , and came back to the computer with the "Closure" statement. This was done after following your advice by getting some fresh air, and then came back to read Steven's post.

 

Will be handling matters here on the forum a lot differently. I will say Steven is not only a close confidante/friend, but an awesome sidekick. LOL.

 

Who knows - maybe we can be the next Batman and Robin. .

 

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What you think, Steven???

 

Thank you ,BVB for the support and advice along with Steven's as it's well appreciated. .

[bigvalboy]

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The shows over....

[AdamSmith]

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And that concludes our dramatization of 'War and Peace.' For Masterpiece Theatre, I'm Alastair Cooke. Good night.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Uf1SYr7E4

[JDXXX]

I like what Truereview has writen, although I haven't discounted meeting with people just yet. We're human... smart people do dumb things sometimes and sometimes dumb people do genius level things.

 

First a little background...

I haven't met either Juan or JD. I had a polite, extremely brief exchange with Juan during a PM conversation. From this brief exchange he and I followed each other. Without prompting, JD followed me (as he seemed to do with many). I wasn't bothered by this. I did PM JD once to thank him for being one of the first people to give me a "like". That was the only thing I have ever sent him.

 

So I have read the mini novel that is this forum post. I'm now going to add my too bits in, as others have. I'm not trying to pick sides here, but JD did open the topic up for discussion and as with anything you offer up for opinion (public and otherwise) you have to take the good with the bad. JD by "being JD" has won fans, turned people on, and, yet ruffled feathers and turned people off.

 

I can't say what exactly happened between Juan and JD that fateful phone call, but If I'm being honest, what Juan has said rings partly true. I'm not the only who has received unsolicited contact from JD. (People have complained publicly in this forum and behind the scenes about it.) Although JD was polite, and in no way did it reach the level it seemed to between JD and Juan, the last (unsolicited) PM JD sent me, put a notch in the turning people off column for me. JD a word of advice, you can't claim to be friends with someone you barely met or have talked to briefly. Most friendships/relationships take time to grow. You can't force one to happen, no matter how much you want it to happen. Doing so makes (some) people feel awkward, angry, and turns them off. Talking to someone in the extreme familiar, that you have never met... also not a good look. This is were I'm guessing, in part, where people have labeled you phony.

 

Look there is nothing wrong with self-promotion. It's how you do it that matters. Ultimately, I think Juan is satisfied with the person he is and whatever lot in life is was given (or went after). I get this from reading his post and responses to various topics. JD I think you are a nice guy. I don't think you mean to be malicious in anyway. However, I think you want to be liked/approved of so much, the manner in which you do it... well, you don't seem to realize it's abrasive to some.

 

Anyway, Mr. Kessler, I'm truly sorry to hear what you are going through. It sucks dealing with family that don't act they way you hope they would. Especially when you're put in the middle in any way. Which is made all the worse by the various health issues you and your family have to deal as well. Buck up. Things will work themselves out for the better.

 

I'll end this by saying... learn from your good and bad experiences and grow from it. That goes for myself and everyone who wants to listen.

 

Can we all get some pizza now?

 

Hello Big-N-Tall -

 

Thanks for the advice, baby, but you or anyone else wont have to worry about JD anymore as I have done a "Closure" post, and hopefully that'll put an end to this "crucifixion and persecution" of all kinds being thrown at me.

 

You should read the "Closure" post, and hopefully you can see I am making an effort to make it right and to be forgiven in the best possible way.

 

Now then - come join the party, and get some pizza here. What would you like, baby? Meatlovers or Pepperoni?

 

MEATLOVERS.......

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PEPPERONI......

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HUGS,