12th Annual Palm Springs Weekend, 2016

[+ purplekow]

I must admit, I am more enamored of Mr. Baldwin than ever and that includes the moment he jumped on top of me naked.

[+ tristanbaldwin]

I wore you for several months after that moment. And by that, I don't mean your cum; that probably washed off in the weekly shower. Probably.

 

The Paco Rabanne though.....

Never will forget!

[+ purplekow]

You're totally missing what I was getting at; it wasn't Coco specifically- remember, I got along great with her, worked with her all the time over the phone in the RB days. It's not HER specifically that was the issue I was remarking about. But we'll dead the issue. I mean, my gay friendly kid sister Daria is available to hang out too, since I won't be able to attend this year- shall we invite her too? Maybe she'll bring some of her friends around and hang out topless! It'll be grand! Since we're so set on 'breaking molds' recently?

 

I mean, rather than breaking molds...maybe there are some who would prefer a tighter mold or a return to a certain mold that they'll be more comfortable in. Just saying.

 

You might find this hard to believe, but I know it to be fact, may the dog I post so much about DIE IN MY ARMS tonight if I'm lying- but do you know there are people who are on this forum, who actually FLEW to palm springs last year for the function, but didn't actually COME to the pool party? And believe me...in no way shape or form does it have ANYTHING to do with her..or even a specific thing...it has to do with so manyyyyyyyyyyyyy different variables that factor into a person's comfortability with turning a key, driving to an unknown house and meeting others who happen to share their interest in hiring? Even though prior to that moment, chances are they've been 100% discrete about it? It's the complete antithesis of everything they've done comfort-wise and habit wise, to that point...

 

...so the point I'm getting at, is that at the expense of not 'breaking down gender barriers' and expanding molds...is that first we should probably focus on the hundreds if not thousands of guys that are on this board, that we could make more comfortable with the idea of attending an event...before introducing other variables.

 

TB

By the way, if there are any posters out there who get to Palm Springs or who are reluctant and fearful about going to Palm Springs, feel free to send me a private message and I will give you my phone number. Sometimes we can jump in the pool, sometimes we get pushed into the pool and sometimes we need someone to gently guide us into the pool to show us it is not so deep and scary after all. I will happily be anyone's life guard.

[+ purplekow]

I wore you for several months after that moment. And by that, I don't mean your cum; that probably washed off in the weekly shower. Probably.

 

The Paco Rabanne though.....

Never will forget!

I thought I had thoroughly licked that off. Did I miss a spot?

[JDXXX]

You're totally missing what I was getting at; it wasn't Coco specifically- remember, I got along great with her, worked with her all the time over the phone in the RB days. It's not HER specifically that was the issue I was remarking about. But we'll dead the issue. I mean, my gay friendly kid sister Daria is available to hang out too, since I won't be able to attend this year- shall we invite her too? Maybe she'll bring some of her friends around and hang out topless! It'll be grand! Since we're so set on 'breaking molds' recently?

 

I mean, rather than breaking molds...maybe there are some who would prefer a tighter mold or a return to a certain mold that they'll be more comfortable in. Just saying.

 

You might find this hard to believe, but I know it to be fact, may the dog I post so much about DIE IN MY ARMS tonight if I'm lying- but do you know there are people who are on this forum, who actually FLEW to palm springs last year for the function, but didn't actually COME to the pool party? And believe me...in no way shape or form does it have ANYTHING to do with her..or even a specific thing...it has to do with so manyyyyyyyyyyyyy different variables that factor into a person's comfortability with turning a key, driving to an unknown house and meeting others who happen to share their interest in hiring? Even though prior to that moment, chances are they've been 100% discrete about it? It's the complete antithesis of everything they've done comfort-wise and habit wise, to that point...

 

...so the point I'm getting at, is that at the expense of not 'breaking down gender barriers' and expanding molds...is that first we should probably focus on the hundreds if not thousands of guys that are on this board, that we could make more comfortable with the idea of attending an event...before introducing other variables.

 

TB

 

I completely understand, and get where your coming from, baby. Hopefully I didn't step on anyone's toes, but it was an idea. .

[+ FreshFluff]

..so the point I'm getting at, is that at the expense of not 'breaking down gender barriers' and expanding molds...is that first we should probably focus on the hundreds if not thousands of guys that are on this board, that we could make more comfortable with the idea of attending an event...before introducing other variables.

 

I thought that another female was planning to attend PS this year. Maybe it was just my imagination.

[JDXXX]

I thought that another female was planning to attend PS this year. Maybe it was just my imagination.

 

There is. QTR is attending.

[+ purplekow]

I thought that another female had posted that she planned to attend PS this year. Maybe it was just my imagination.

I think for many posters, each of the female posters here is one of the guys. She received the same invitation as the male posters. Mr. Baldwin makes the point that you don't bring a date to Sunday Supper without clearing it with Mom.

[+ stevenkesslar]

I thought that another female was planning to attend PS this year. Maybe it was just my imagination.

 

Yes, indeed. She is. And several of us who have been involved in the party for years, including Betty Crocker herself, whose cooking skills would give Julia Child a serious run for her money, have made it clear that ALL ARE WELCOME, and we can't wait to meet her.

 

Maybe it's just my imagination, but have you changed your look, Fresh Fluff? It looks a little less Bernie Sanders - crazy white hair everywhere - and a little bit more Barack Obama, if you want my opinion. You know, it's all good as far as I'm concerned, but between you and me, I think your makeover is purrrrrrrfect!

[+ WilliamM]

I think for many posters, each of the female posters here are one of the guys. They received the same invitation as the male posters.

 

Each of the female posters are far more than just one of the guys. They are smart, well-informed women who more than occasionally provide a very different point of view that is very valuable to this site. This is richer, more balanced forum of opinion and fact because they post here.

[+ stevenkesslar]

Each of the female posters are far more than just one of the guys.

 

On one of my first trips to a gay bar, when I was first coming out, I went into the men's room to pee. It was full of hot, shirtless guys. One particularly gorgeous stud was banging on the doors of the toilet stall, which was locked, and screaming, "I'm a disabled woman in a wheelchair, and you have to fucking let me in!"

I really, really like you, William. You are sweet and kind and thoughtful. But I have to warn you. In that moment, in that gay bar, I knew my life boiled down to one essential goal. I have always just wanted to be one of the girls. Please, is there anything wrong with that? Can't I just be one of the fucking girls???

[JDXXX]

I really, really like you, William. You are sweet and kind and thoughtful.

 

+1. Agree 110%. Steven is absolutely right. Nailed it right on the head as you are a hell of a great guy with a heart of Gold. :D

[+ FreshFluff]

I really, really like you, William.

 

William definitely is.

 

Maybe it's just my imagination, but have you changed your look, Fresh Fluff? It looks a little less Bernie Sanders - crazy white hair everywhere - and a little bit more Barack Obama, if you want my opinion. You know, it's all good as far as I'm concerned, but between you and me, I think your makeover is purrrrrrrfect!

 

Thanks, Steven. But who knows? I may end up missing lil' Bernie, in which case I'd bring him back.

[+ stevenkesslar]

You're totally missing what I was getting at; it wasn't Coco specifically- remember, I got along great with her, worked with her all the time over the phone in the RB days. It's not HER specifically that was the issue I was remarking about.

 

There's two separate and serious thoughts I have in reaction to where this is being taken so I will say them separate.

 

The first is the easier of the two. I agree with Tristan, and I'm glad he spoke up. I'm glad Lady Coco can't make it. This is not an overtly political party, and throwing the Rentboy thing right in the middle of it makes it overtly political.

 

Last year the Rentboy thing was as divisive and as controversial as things get. I was not quiet on the subject. I am very proud of the fact that many members of this community rose to defend Lady Coco and other innocents. We put our money where our mouths were. We still are. At the risk of reopening touchy subjects, I am very grateful to Dave in particular for taking a leadership role on something touchy. I'd like to believe it played a small role in ensuring that Lady Coco and others will not be going to jail.

 

This party is NOT a place for that debate. We are a diverse community with a lot of people and a lot of opinions, and this is a time to celebrate our strength and have fun. Lady Coco, know that you will be there in our hearts, even if you are not there.

 

Tristan is right. There are people coming to this party who are just getting comfortable in their own gay skin and we don't need to inject Rentboy politics into it. There is a time and place for that.

 

I'm proud of what many of us did last year to defend our community, and I will be drinking margaritas to celebrate that, whether or not I make a toast or make it an issue. I don't like drama. Rentboy should not be an issue at the party.

[JDXXX]

I'm sorry guys if my idea was a bad one or somewhat a touchy subject being I had nothing but the best of intentions without any drama of the whole rentboy.com conspiracy interjecting into the picture or the sole purpose of having Lady Coco join us again this year.

 

I clearly wasn't thinking of how the whole rentboy drama, and politics could arise as it didn't cross my mind at first until Tristan brought up, and glad he did along with Stevens points on a political stand point of view.

 

Seriously don't want people flying off the handle of me being insensitive or not having consideration for others(including the host) who will be attending the party as that was not the case when the idea was brought up.

 

However, I understand where Tristan was coming from out of concern as my mindset was on a totally different level, and not thinking of the rentboy drama, and politics being an issue - actually I wasn't even thinking on those terms or the fact that could be of a problem as I didn't figure politics about rentboy would come up, but glad Tristan did as it makes total sense on a more political/social aspect considering what drama was all involved regarding rentboy.

 

I don't like drama. Rentboy should not be an issue at the party.

 

Trust me, Steven - I don't like drama any more than you or anyone else who'll be attending the event, and appreciate your post being as informative as it was along with Tristan's as what you both have posted of the dangers of her attending could cause possibly does makes sense.

 

Good points indeed, guys. .

[TruHart1]

^------Not for nothing with the above comment, JD.... "I may have Lady Coco to come back again this year now that she's free and clear to travel again".

 

Perhaps you should consider getting the input of the forums members before you go ahead and do that....and gee whiz...maybe your party HOST as well?

 

"After all she's been through this past year with the whole rentboy.com fiasco, she could use fun-filled relaxed trip for once."

 

You're right, of course. Coco's stress level, entertainment, and well being are what the event is all about.

I am sorry Coco can not attend. I am surprised that her possible attentance was an issue. Or have I missed something in the comments?

There's two separate and serious thoughts I have in reaction to where this is being taken so I will say them separate.

 

The first is the easier of the two. I agree with Tristan, and I'm glad he spoke up. I'm glad Lady Coco can't make it. This is not an overtly political party, and throwing the Rentboy thing right in the middle of it makes it overtly political.

 

Last year the Rentboy thing was as divisive and as controversial as things get. I was not quiet on the subject. I am very proud of the fact that many members of this community rose to defend Lady Coco and other innocents. We put our money where our mouths were. We still are. At the risk of reopening touchy subjects, I am very grateful to Dave in particular for taking a leadership role on something touchy. I'd like to believe it played a small role in ensuring that Lady Coco and others will not be going to jail.

 

This party is NOT a place for that debate. We are a diverse community with a lot of people and a lot of opinions, and this is a time to celebrate our strength and have fun. Lady Coco, know that you will be there in our hearts, even if you are not there.

 

Tristan is right. There are people coming to this party who are just getting comfortable in their own gay skin and we don't need to inject Rentboy politics into it. There is a time and place for that.

 

I'm proud of what many of us did last year to defend our community, and I will be drinking margaritas to celebrate that, whether or not I make a toast or make it an issue. I don't like drama. Rentboy should not be an issue at the party.

I'm sorry. I can't seem to fathom what everyone is arguing about. JD had the best intention to try to help out a friend who has been through a hell of a bad year, thinking that attending the PS event might lighten her load. As he said, he did plan on running it by the host if Coco had been able to attend! Additionally, JD had a number of last year's attendees ask if Coco would be attending again this year. WilliamM seems to express that here, too.

 

I don't know but do wonder if Tristan had a client or two who expressed an interest in attending one of Daddy's events but said they might not be completely comfortable with a big crowd of diverse clients/escorts! Maybe he was being a bit ironic in his post but because Tristan is who he is, and is one of the best, I'm certain his heart is in the right place!

 

Of course I expect Mr. Kesslar to jump in regarding the political repercussions of having a member of the Rentboy 6 attend a get-together in Palm Springs because he has been so involved in that particular issue himself, trying to help in any way he can. Still, everyone seems to agree that the issue is not about gender at all, since QTR has already committed to be attending herself.

 

Finally, it all seems just so much ado about nothing since neither Ms. Coco nor the gorgeous TB will be able to attend the event! Does it seem to anybody else that some discussions can get way off track like it sometimes feels to me?

 

TruHart1

[+ stevenkesslar]

Finally, it all seems just so much ado about nothing since neither Ms. Coco nor the gorgeous TB will be able to attend the event! Does it seem to anybody else that some discussions can get way off track like it sometimes feels to me?

 

TruHart1

 

All I can say, TruHart, is that it reflects well on your compassionate nature that you have no clue how much ado about something it is.

 

Several clients I've known for over a decade made it very clear to me that my involvement in the Rentboy thing totally freaked them out. It shouldn't come as a shocker that political activity or associations to controversial matters like Rentboy make many people uncomfortable real quick. That's why it makes sense to keep them separate.

 

Try as I might, I failed. Even though I was not involved in the DC forum event, I was berated recently by a prominent escort, who went on and and on and on in writing to me about how people at the DC event complained about me, and how I'd asked them to give money, or pressured them to associate themselves with the Rentboy cause. It is apparent to me that JD must not have gotten any wind of this, or spoken to this other escort. Had he done so, he would have been aware how people who are less compassionate than you might be less understanding. I was not at the DC event, I had nothing to do with it, and it had nothing to do with the Rentboy matter. Maybe somebody who likes to create drama was just trying to stir up shit and using me to do so. I'd be happy to share with you privately the nasty garbage I got about my alleged crimes regarding Lady Coco and how they were apparently tried at the DC event. Maybe that was much ado about nothing, too.

 

Regardless, after being privately berated by an escort who acts like the nicest guy in the world, until he lashes out at you, and who apparently used the DC event to go after me for trying to help Lady Coco, I'm being proactive in publicly saying that the Palm Springs event has nothing to do with Rentboy. You won't be asked to give money or support a cause. As far as my role goes, the biggest risk I'll ask you to take is to hand you a drink and invite you to jump into the pool, naked.

 

I'm sorry some people like to stir up shit. And I'm really sorry Tristan won't be able to make it this year, either. That's the real crime, in my view.

[+ azdr0710]

the primary reasons I will attend the forum weekend again this year are the utter LACK of drama and the casual friendliness of the entire crowd.....some here know I do not like pretentious and phony scenes - and the forum weekend is the opposite of that.....at the Saturday dinner, we're seated at a few large tables right out in the main dining room of the restaurant, not sent to some sterile private meeting room in the back....at the Sunday pool party, anything goes, attendees are eager to meet each other, and it's all very kick-back, Palm Springs-style....

 

to be bluntly honest, I do think Lady Coco's presence at the pool party last year smacked a little bit of Rentboy promotion, however subtle it was.....and she was the only one who loudly announced her arrival to the crowd.....I'm glad Steven has emphasized that the weekend has nothing to do with Rentboy (if there was even a question of it) and I'm glad Oliver et al will be handling it as usual this year

[+ stevenkesslar]

I'm glad Steven has emphasized that the weekend has nothing to do with Rentboy (if there was even a question of it) and I'm glad Oliver et al will be handling it as usual this year

 

You got the memo. Thank you also for noting this is Oliver's party. It happened to be held at my house last year due to extenuating circumstances. I don't want to overstep here but since the issue on the table was Rentboy and I was front and center and a loudmouth on that, I felt like I needed to speak up and make it clear that whatever role I play this year, it won't be as an advocate for Rentboy. I personally welcomed Lady Coco before Rentboy became a huge political drama last year, but I reiterate that this is not the right venue to promote my personal political beliefs on Rentboy. It is Oliver's party, I adore him, and so do we all. And we are all just girls that wanna have fun.

[JDXXX]

the primary reasons I will attend the forum weekend again this year are the utter LACK of drama and the casual friendliness of the entire crowd.....some here know I do not like pretentious and phony scenes - and the forum weekend is the opposite of that.....at the Saturday dinner, we're seated at a few large tables right out in the main dining room of the restaurant, not sent to some sterile private meeting room in the back....at the Sunday pool party, anything goes, attendees are eager to meet each other, and it's all very kick-back, Palm Springs-style....

 

to be bluntly honest, I do think Lady Coco's presence at the pool party last year smacked a little bit of Rentboy promotion, however subtle it was.....and she was the only one who loudly announced her arrival to the crowd.....I'm glad Steven has emphasized that the weekend has nothing to do with Rentboy (if there was even a question of it) and I'm glad Oliver et al will be handling it as usual this year

 

Azdr,

 

Let me tell you - you'd be surprised of how I've heard people not wanting to go to PS because of it being too wild and risqué, and how others wont come to DC because of people being pretentious and dull there. Seems to me both parties whether it being DC or PS, has some sort of drama issue with others not wanting to attend one or the other for certain reasons. Really is ashame when you come to think of it as the whole purpose(to me) of us having these events would be to spend quality time with other fellow forum members in a drama-free environment, and have a grand time together which should be of the main focus of wanting to attend PS or DC.

 

Sure, we all may not agree on a few things when it comes to discussions on the forum here, but that shouldn't stop us from ending all the shit we talk on the forum, and enjoy each other face-to-face.

 

I'm sorry if you were displeased with some of Coco's antics from last years PS event as I wasn't aware her presence seemed a bit over-the-top, but I think overally you enjoyed her to some extent, and I can say from what she told me in my presence at Saturday night's dinner, she came to enjoy herself away from Rentboy.com as this event was a vacation for her that she took time off work for as vacation time. She didn't attend the event to promote Rentboy as I didn't fly her out there for that - if that was the case, then rentboy.com would have covered her trip to fly down, and not me. If she came this year(being there is no longer rentboy.com)it would have been the same case of her being there with us in PS as a "vacation", and not as a business venture. She was there to have fun there with ALL of us after hearing about Oliver's outstanding party from other escorts for years as she too wanted a piece of the action, and enjoy the escorts and clients in PS outside of work for once.

 

Grant it - a lot of the escorts went to her regarding promotion questions I'm sure being they knew of her dealing with they're ads, but that is likely to arise here and there, but again, she wasn't there to focus on promoting Rentboy as she was there for to have a relaxed vacation away from work.

 

Steven has emphasized something that was important about the PS event having nothing to do with Rentboy.com, and am glad we all can enjoy each other without that coming into play of what were mainly there for, and that's to enjoy one another - care-free. LOL.

[JDXXX]

It is Oliver's party, I adore him, and so do we all. And we are all just girls that wanna have fun.

 

Well said as this is Oliver's party, and we ALL need to honor and respect that purpose. The focus is to come there and and have fun, and that's exactly what were gonna do.

 

Again - It's about enjoying ourselves and be "CARE-FREE". ;)

[marylander1940]

Good News:

 

Now that the charges have been dropped regarding the 6 employees working for rentboy.com - I may have Lady Coco to come back again this year now that she's free and clear to travel again. I'll ask her tonight if she maybe up for the idea. .

 

After all she's been through this past year with the whole rentboy.com fiasco, she could use fun-filled relaxed trip for once.

 

Certainly Miss Coco deserves some entertainment and a celebration, nothing worse than having the Feds come after you.

 

 

Sure, we all may not agree on a few things when it comes to discussions on the forum here, but that shouldn't stop us from ending all the shit we talk on the forum, and enjoy each other face-to-face.

 

 

Steven has emphasized something that was important about the PS event having nothing to do with Rentboy.com, and am glad we all can enjoy each other without that coming into play of what were mainly there for, and that's to enjoy one another - care-free. LOL.

 

A world without Renboy... shall we make a moment of silence in late August to mark the first anniversary?

[+ MasssageGuy]

I'm sure the "Rentboy 6" would and do appreciate the invitation. However, it is evident from others attending that there is not agreement that this get together would be the appropriate forum.

 

Perhaps another forum where the "Rentboy 6" can discuss their experience and how we may be able to learn from their ordeal would be a more productive venue.

[+ Lance_Navarro]

I'm pretty certain that I will be there, just need to lock down where I will be staying. Look forward to meeting a bunch of you!

[+ Truereview]

I was really excited about the event in PS. I booked a house for a couple of weeks around this event to spend with my own circle of friends. Since my friends know about my hobby, I was planning to attend the dinner & pop in for the pool party - solo. However, I have to admit the last few posts by @JDXXX & @stevenkesslar leave a very bad taste in my mouth.

 

I wish these two gentlemen would take their drama outside the forum, grow a pair, and resolve their sh!t without us bearing witness. Even if they can't resolve it, please leave us out of it. I, personally, don't give a fuck whether you like each other or not, but don't you dare sour a thread and a weekend I'm working up the nerve to attend. I use this thread to bring a smile to my plans...now, I have to worry about ignoring comments on it? What gives?!

 

I kindly ask you both to stop the madness!