Closeted Escorts and Gaydar

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Maybe I misread someplace, but I think the guy in question is having lunch with PK this weekend.

You didn't miss it, rvwnsd...according to the latest post from PK, they are having a meal together this weekend...and I just luv that PK is giving him a chance.

 

Our next step in our evolution as gay or straight and all the shades in between is to recognize that we, as men, have a lot of societal and historical baggage that we haven't had the opportunity to discuss/address as openly as today. We need to help each other regardless of where we are in our sexual orientation journey. I sorta feel like we are having our own sexual revolution. Women, step aside, let men discover themselves!

[marylander1940]

Purplekow:

 

 

I recently had an encounter with a very handsome and sexy escort. We had a great time and as he was leaving he asked if I wanted to go out to dinner sometime. He then went on to say that he was gay but in the closet and he likes to socialize with other men who do not set off gaydar and most of his clients do.

I have spoken to several clients who have as a requirement that the escort be "masculine" and not appear to be gay.

Sexual turn-ons aside, is this a common consideration? I do prefer my escorts on the muscularly built side but

I have not hesitated to go out socially with escorts or clients and I have never given the gaydar aspect much consideration.

Comments.

 

Would you call yourself flamboyant?

 

Do you set off the gayday of gay and straight people just by your presence?

[Guest]

Purplekow:

 

 

 

 

Would you call yourself flamboyant?

 

Do you set off the gayday of gay and straight people just by your presence?

I'm going to speak on his behalf before he ( PK ) gets a chance to do so, but if you asked me, I'd say no, not one shred, not a little, no nothing,zilch.

[rvwnsd]

You didn't miss it, rvwnsd...according to the latest post from PK, they are having a meal together this weekend...and I just luv that PK is giving him a chance....

 

Whew! I had a long day yesterday and am glad to know that my reading comprehension skills weren't turned into mush.

 

...Our next step in our evolution as gay or straight and all the shades in between is to recognize that we, as men, have a lot of societal and historical baggage that we haven't had the opportunity to discuss/address as openly as today. We need to help each other regardless of where we are in our sexual orientation journey. I sorta feel like we are having our own sexual revolution. Women, step aside, let men discover themselves!

 

Very well said. Although he is far far from being a flaming stereotype of a 1970's gay man, my straight brother often expresses many stereotypically "gay" gestures and sayings in ordinary conversation. He isn't trying to be funny, it is just how he (well, both of us) are wired. My brother is straight as an arrow, but is secure in himself and simply doesn't care how he comes across.

 

Ahhhh I hope so I may have misread and or didn't read the too many of the other posts beyond PK's original post. PK is about as sweet and kind as they get, makes for a lovely dining experience, pickles, coffee, or sushi

 

Ha! I thought the same of myself. Great minds doing what they do best.

[Rudynate]

You didn't miss it, rvwnsd...according to the latest post from PK, they are having a meal together this weekend...and I just luv that PK is giving him a chance.

 

Our next step in our evolution as gay or straight and all the shades in between is to recognize that we, as men, have a lot of societal and historical baggage that we haven't had the opportunity to discuss/address as openly as today. We need to help each other regardless of where we are in our sexual orientation journey. I sorta feel like we are having our own sexual revolution. Women, step aside, let men discover themselves!

 

On another board, I correspond with a straight guy who is also a conservative Christian. In spite of his religion, he says he's come to the realization that all men, gay and straight, have common interests and concerns and that it's time we stopped letting a little thing like the sex of the people we sleep with keep us apart. It's a compelling vision - all men living and working alongside each other and the object of your affection is just another individual characteristic without being something that defines you.

[Rudynate]

Whew! I had a long day yesterday and am glad to know that my reading comprehension skills weren't turned into mush.

 

flaming stereotype of a 1970's gay man . . .

 

 

 

It was in the '70s that gay men began to realize that they weren't some sort of weird, marginalized third sex and claim their status as men. It was an amazing time. For my partner and I, the flamer stereotype was an old queen from the 50s who worked as an interior decorator or hair dresser and spent all of his leisure time on a bar stool. We actually invented a character like that and named him Guy Paige. We made up story after story about the things Guy Paige experienced getting his consciousness raised in San Francisco during the AIDS epidemic.

[marylander1940]

I'm going to speak on his behalf before he ( PK ) gets a chance to do so, but if you asked me, I'd say no, not one shred, not a little, no nothing,zilch.

 

I'll take your word on the subject.

Once while having dinner with a local escort a friend of him came over to say hi. I was introduced by the escort as visiting great-uncle from out of town.

He could have called me uncle at least, great-uncle was simply edgy but I was 70 and the escort was 22, I guess he could have been my great-nephew.

[+ Truereview]

I'll take your word on the subject.

Once while having dinner with a local escort a friend of him came over to say hi. I was introduced by the escort as visiting great-uncle from out of town.

He could have called me uncle at least, great-uncle was simply edgy but I was 70 and the escort was 22, I guess he could have been my great-nephew.

 

Maybe he just meant that you are such a good guy, you were a great uncle? Btw, I hope you made him cry uncle later!

[corndog]

We need to help each other regardless of where we are in our sexual orientation journey.

 

Perhaps one of the most interesting things about this thread is that it is the escort that is going through his coming out process, not the client. I think that we've had many discussions here about newbies using escorts as part of their self-discovery process, but we sometimes forget that escorts are also multi-dimensional, living, breathing human beings.

[marylander1940]

Maybe he just meant that you are such a good guy, you were a great uncle? Btw, I hope you made him cry uncle later!

 

I just felt old... LOL

 

Btw, "cry angel" comes from aingeal which means angel in Gaelic. It was a cry of mercy and surrender on a fist fight in the streets or a boxing match. Later it was confused rom aingeal or ainkeal to the English word uncle.

[Wolfer]

Many of these traits have left me feeling ostracized from the community.

I find this an interesting observation, especially with the whole "masc for masc" and "no femmes" trends so prevalent today in the hookup culture. I would think that a guy who displays those "straight" traits would actually not be ostracized by the community at all...

From my experience, it's the flamboyant gays that get ostracized by the more masculine types. Maybe it's all a matter of perspective?

[Bargara Leatherboy]

Rudynate you hit on my original comment on this thread, that I am often the straight-guy-cliche, I almost always wear a baseball cap although never backwards(to everyone's surprise I do have a full head of dark hair underneath); I don't have pit bulls but do have rescue mutts which are pretty big and sometimes scary to others until they lick you; definitely not a 49ers fan but a fanatical Broncos fan; I thoroughly enjoy microbrew pubs; most likely I apply to all the other stereotypes etc etc also

 

Many of these traits have left me feeling ostracized from the community.

 

I am one of the clients that truly hires escorts for companionship because of this. I truly enjoy having a buddy willing to go to a brew pub to watch a game, or actually go to the game and enjoy the game, not just to look at hot straight men. If I could find an escort that would go camping with me or 4wheeling, I probably would be in bliss. Don't be fooled I enjoy the other elements of escort time also but the companionship is probably a higher element for me.

 

Sorry for the rant. Glad you truly like the guy and didn't say anything that you would be sorry for later.

 

Gem~

 

 

Gem.

 

I would suggest that you seek out some social groups, find a group that interests you, like 49 er fans or gay guys into micro grows, regular movie night or bowling league, Or a volunteer group. This is where you will meet potential friends, compared to the bars where most people are out for a hook up.