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Chris Eisenhower Community Regular

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Pizza time, anyone? It's time for a late-ish lunch where I am........

T

 

Wench, where have you been? Send me a snide, snarky PM and bring me up to speed. I have some questions to ask you about another Forum meeting.

 

Back to the trucker.

tyro Community Regular

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Wench, where have you been? Send me a snide, snarky PM and bring me up to speed. I have some questions to ask you about another Forum meeting.

 

Back to the trucker.

 

All this from the man whose last text to me read, "Bizzitch, I'm in Cabo?"!!!!

FINE...I'll update you on mah boring-assed life... ;)

T

Gar1eth Grand Master

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The reviewer didn't say Ryan was a fake' date=' didn't live up to his pictures ....[/Quote']

 

Uh....actually he did.

 

Well he said Ryan was 'tired' and 'jaded, if I had described an escort that way-and only that way, it wouldn't mean he didn't look like his pictures.

 

I personally have no doubts Ryan looks just as good or even better than his pictures.

 

But I'm tired of this thread. I'm going to 'unwatch it.' I bid you all adieu.

 

Gman

jawjateck Veteran

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As to the question "does the escort live up to his description?", the client answered "no". Doubtful.........

 

Bottom line: all reviews are just data points, nothing more or less. Prospective clients must learn how to evaluate and utilize reviews. This one has 5 features that make it believable and 12 features that discredit it. Each client must utilize it as he deems appropriate for his needs and circumstances.

ryanrb515 Newbie

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Greetings...

 

I am overwhelmed and honored with all the love and support shown in this thread. I'm surprised that this thread has lived on so long.... it really isn't that big a deal. It's kinda devolved into minutia that really has nothing to do with the original intent of the thread. I appreciate those that have lauded and am grateful for the constructive criticism from others.

 

The review system for the most part is one that benefits both client and escort. While I wish there was a better way to vet a review to give it credibility... both for good and bad reviews... I firmly believe that clients are smart enough to see through the fog of literacy war. I appreciate those in this forum with the experience to know better... who take this negative review from a 1st time reviewer and at best vague details... with as much a grain of salt as they do a glowing over the top amazing review that escorts also often receive. Let's not kid ourselves.... I'm grateful that Daddy takes the time to vet every review... not a small task... and then give the escort a chance to respond when necessary. It's better that the M4RN system where the client can just post and the escort can then just delete. Defeats the purpose doesn't it? In a way, I actually have a bit of an advantage over the original reviewer (unless he decides to speak up) because this thread is kind of a second rebuttal in and of itself. No system is perfect.

 

In regards to my response... I meant what I said. I'm sorry I wasn't able to give the best experience ever to this client. I sincerely do try my hardest (insert joke here) and want my client to have a great time. It's all about communication and stop the presses... I'm not a mind reader. If you say you are pleased to my face and then go home and write a bad review... what am I to do? The client is being disingenuous in either not wanting to hurt my feelings in person by stating the experience was just so so... or even worse something more malicious. Who am I to know either way?

 

As far as my bringing up the partaking of substance issues... Don't we want the honest truth (truth being subjective depending on POV) in reporting or rebutting a review? I've read many a negative review on escorts where the client has mentioned the escort's impairment due to substances. No one gets up in arms about that! Does anyone here believe that clients do not often have the same issues? We escorts deal with all types of gentleman from sweet newbies to down low married men to hardcore party guys that only want to get high and have sex. I don't judge any of them.. We all have our paths.... But some here believe it is wrong of me to tell the whole story from my perspective... Why? You as the reader need to decide for yourself whether I am bringing this up to either undermine the reviewer and discredit him or whether I am telling the truth. Bottom-line... decide for yourself and then make a choice to see me or not. I sincerely hope you decide in my favor.

 

I hope to see you. I hope to blow your mind.. among other things. I hope to do my best. No matter what gets said, either both positive or negative, after this little post of mine... I won't be responding again. Not because I don't care... cause I obviously do. Sometimes taking the high road is knowing when to speak and when not to.

 

Ryan

bigvalboy Grand Master

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Greetings...

 

I am overwhelmed and honored with all the love and support shown in this thread. I'm surprised that this thread has lived on so long.... it really isn't that big a deal. It's kinda devolved into minutia that really has nothing to do with the original intent of the thread. I appreciate those that have lauded and am grateful for the constructive criticism from others.

 

The review system for the most part is one that benefits both client and escort. While I wish there was a better way to vet a review to give it credibility... both for good and bad reviews... I firmly believe that clients are smart enough to see through the fog of literacy war. I appreciate those in this forum with the experience to know better... who take this negative review from a 1st time reviewer and at best vague details... with as much a grain of salt as they do a glowing over the top amazing review that escorts also often receive. Let's not kid ourselves.... I'm grateful that Daddy takes the time to vet every review... not a small task... and then give the escort a chance to respond when necessary. It's better that the M4RN system where the client can just post and the escort can then just delete. Defeats the purpose doesn't it? In a way, I actually have a bit of an advantage over the original reviewer (unless he decides to speak up) because this thread is kind of a second rebuttal in and of itself. No system is perfect.

 

In regards to my response... I meant what I said. I'm sorry I wasn't able to give the best experience ever to this client. I sincerely do try my hardest (insert joke here) and want my client to have a great time. It's all about communication and stop the presses... I'm not a mind reader. If you say you are pleased to my face and then go home and write a bad review... what am I to do? The client is being disingenuous in either not wanting to hurt my feelings in person by stating the experience was just so so... or even worse something more malicious. Who am I to know either way?

 

As far as my bringing up the partaking of substance issues... Don't we want the honest truth (truth being subjective depending on POV) in reporting or rebutting a review? I've read many a negative review on escorts where the client has mentioned the escort's impairment due to substances. No one gets up in arms about that! Does anyone here believe that clients do not often have the same issues? We escorts deal with all types of gentleman from sweet newbies to down low married men to hardcore party guys that only want to get high and have sex. I don't judge any of them.. We all have our paths.... But some here believe it is wrong of me to tell the whole story from my perspective... Why? You as the reader need to decide for yourself whether I am bringing this up to either undermine the reviewer and discredit him or whether I am telling the truth. Bottom-line... decide for yourself and then make a choice to see me or not. I sincerely hope you decide in my favor.

 

I hope to see you. I hope to blow your mind.. among other things. I hope to do my best. No matter what gets said, either both positive or negative, after this little post of mine... I won't be responding again. Not because I don't care... cause I obviously do. Sometimes taking the high road is knowing when to speak and when not to.

 

Ryan

 

Well said..with the last line being a nice summation. Two thumbs up....

mike carey Grand Master

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Thanks for posting this Ryan, it only adds to your credibility. I make no comment on whether that reviewer had a point to make, your response was right on-point. I don't know whether you are the right match for me or for anyone else on this site, meeting is the only way to confirm that.

'I hope to blow your mind.. among other things.' I'm happy that you aim to do that!!

 

Anyway, all the best. Mike.

instudiocity Mentor

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I don't think that the expression 'dropping this stinking turd' or some of the other comments in instudiocity's response indicate a 'healthy discussion'. They sound to me more like personal attacks. I'm kind of surprised at you, Chris. I thought you were one of the more thoughtful escorts on here. But you seem to be blindly taking Ryan's side from a review that when stripped down to its basic element only said that he didn't think Ryan's performance lived up to Ryan's fee. The reviewer might have gone a little far with the Grindr comment. Still if he was frustrated and trying to make a comparison, the statement is understandable. The reviewer didn't say Ryan was a fake, didn't live up to his pictures, was on drugs, or many other worse things that could have been said.

 

Gman

Glad you defended bobnyc for inserting the comment that he had issues with Ryan even after three hires. At least he didn't call Ryan a hunnerd dolla whoer. It's ok.

stevenkesslar Grand Master

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For the escorts who have responded to the thread totally in favor of Ryan without even considering that the reviewer just might be in the right this time seems to me to be the escort equivalent of the saying 'my country-right or wrong,' or in essence 'Ryan must be right and the reviewer inexperienced, crazy, didn't know what he wanted because he is only a client and Ryan is an escort.'

 

Sorry to come back in with more, but I would argue this has been a win-win-win.

 

Win # 1: I would hate having a negative review, but the fact is Ryan got one. It stands, and it will stand in the future. We also got a chance to defend him. I find it impossible to think he hasn't learned something from this experience.

 

Win # 2: Gareth, I'm glad you are pushing to make sure that we look at this from the client's perspective. If the client who wrote the review exists and is reading this, I hope he has learned something, too. I won't repeat what I wrote above, but I'll stick with my bottom line: he likely set up an appointment that was doomed to fail. If he is a good looking 34 year old who hasn't had male-on-male sex for a long time, I say to him: you are a lot like me, except I never had male-on-male sex until I was 34. Good luck, and I hope you find ways to deal with your issues step by step. It is likely going to take you a long process of trial and error.

 

Win #3: This thread to me ought to teach us all something about what it means as an escort or client to put out expectations about "the boyfriend experience." At some point soon when I am not about to go on a trip I'll start a post just on that. We have of course been down that road before. From the standpoint of an escort, it can be very emotionally fulfilling, and very emotionally frustrating. My bottom line is that anybody who hasn't had sex with a man for 10 years and is 34 ought to be mature enough to realize that if you are only spending one hour with an escort, having good sex ought to be a reasonable enough expectation. The "boyfriend experience" takes way more than an hour. I've spent years with particular clients working through what I would call their "coming out/finding a boyfriend" process. More to be said on that later.

 

For now, I agree with Chris. I think this was a very good discussion, and hopefully we all learned something. I did.

purplekow Grand Master

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Sorry to come back in with more, but I would argue this has been a win-win-win.

 

 

 

For now, I agree with Chris. I think this was a very good discussion, and hopefully we all learned something. I did.

 

I guess that disproves the saying the you can't teach an old whore new tricks.

TruHart1 Grand Master

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Glad you defended bobnyc for inserting the comment that he had issues with Ryan even after three hires. At least he didn't call Ryan a hunnerd dolla whoer. It's ok.

I guess that disproves the saying the you can't teach an old whore new tricks.

 

Seriously! It boggles my mind...it's hard to understand why one would hire an escort even a second time if the first time engendered even some small dissatisfaction as to enjoying the time with that escort. Maybe I could stretch my belief to see the possibility that the client might TRY a second time hoping the experience would be different, but to try yet a third time and feel dissatisfied once again? WHY?:rolleyes:

 

PK, I've never heard the one about teaching an old whore new tricks but to misquote Dorothy Parker, when she was asked to use the word horticulture correctly in a sentence, "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make [him] think!":p

 

TruHart1 :cool:

stevenkesslar Grand Master

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I guess that disproves the saying the you can't teach an old whore new tricks.

 

http://animalfair.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/CuteOldDog.jpg

 

You old dog, you. I thought the saying was you can't teach an old doc to have a new dick.

 

Or was it that you can't teach an old doc to hire new tricks? Never mind. It's my dementia.

 

PK, I've never heard the one about teaching an old whore new tricks but to misquote Dorothy Parker, when she was asked to use the word horticulture correctly in a sentence, "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make [him] think!":p

 

Okay, have your fun. I'm an old whore, and I don't know about leading a horticulture. But I still say everything will come up roses for Ryan.

 

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JDXXX Community Regular

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Seriously! It boggles my mind...it's hard to understand why one would hire an escort even a second time if the first time engendered even some small dissatisfaction as to enjoying the time with that escort. Maybe I could stretch my belief to see the possibility that the client might TRY a second time hoping the experience would be different, but to try yet a third time and feel dissatisfied once again? WHY?:rolleyes:

 

This whole matter is mind-boggling for anyone was as the client was out to get Ryan due to(to what was in his mind of the session) an "unsatisfactory" BFE experience which for Ryan was unfortunate to encounter such a intensifying negative review in the end. I don't think Ryan did anything wrong as none of what the client has disclosed in the review adds up in any way.

 

Win # 1: I would hate having a negative review, but the fact is Ryan got one. It stands, and it will stand in the future. We also got a chance to defend him. I find it impossible to think he hasn't learned something from this experience.

 

Good to see we all here on the forum can rally in and come to Ryan's defense knowing what a sweet, and gentle person he is seeing as he was apologetic, and sincere regarding the clients misfortunate of the session whether or not he was at fault or not, and that to me is a class act of him being the "bigger" person.

 

Win #3: This thread to me ought to teach us all something about what it means as an escort or client to put out expectations about "the boyfriend experience."

 

Reading this thread, along with the negative review has taught us ALL a lesson for:

 

1. The escort may wanna carefully go over, and confirm before arrival of the clients expectations(to him) of what he wants in a memorable BFE is, and see from there if it's a match to what you as the escort could provide or not which will prevent any complications that could create some severe consequences further down the line.

 

2. If the escort suspects the client is on any kind of heavy "substance" the escort may wanna think over if this is a session he'd want to pursue further knowing of the consequences that may occur if proceeded further. 9 times out of 10, if the client is on kind of heavy "substances" he may not be apt to enjoy a true BFE with anybody given he'd be high as a kite.

stevenkesslar Grand Master

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9 times out of 10, if the client is on kind of heavy "substances" he may not be apt to enjoy a true BFE with anybody given he'd be high as a kite.

 

Funny you should say that, JD. The only way I could ever figure out how to make my relationships with my boyfriends work is to stay fucked up on meth 24/7.

purplekow Grand Master

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Me thinks Mr. Kesslar protests too much!

Besides we're way off point and I think Ryan really did sum it up, it seems days ago.

Funguy you seem to have missed the whole point of these threads which is have the answer to the question how the hell did we start talking about that. In person, it takes a full and extensive review of the topics discussed before you and the person with whom you are conversing are able to answer that question. Here a quick review reveals the contortions and variations the human mind will go through in order for every conversation to get to sex.

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