Escorts, how often do you encounter clients that are your "type"?

[Steven_Draker]

As the saying goes there is something for everyone. Some escorts like particular types, just like johns prefer particular type. Don't go into a meeting wondering if you are the escort's type... it can be self defeating. Some escorts like clients who look similar to them. However, some escorts who are super ripped cut fashion model types aren't always into other super ripped fashion model types. You'd be surprised at escort's preferences. Or maybe you wouldn't be, depending on the escort.

 

Any good/great/amazing escort can deal with just about any type of man or woman. They can focus on something that they enjoy about that client, if that client isn't ideal to them.

 

Very true. You may not be an escort, but you've got that right and I couldn't have said it better myself.

[+ quoththeraven]

Client here. People are more than the sum of their body parts. Good looks don't guarantee chemistry or sexual ability. Personality and interests play a part as well. Someone who isn't an escort's physical type may have great chemistry with him anyway; someone who is an escort's physical type may still not click with him sexually or otherwise. In fact, it's my belief that escorts have to do a lot less acting in this regard than people think because living up to some physical ideal isn't as important to sex and sexual attraction -- let alone relationships -- as is generally thought.

 

As long as you do your research and meet the minimum requirements outlined above, the question of whether you're the escort's type should be irrelevant. As noted, it's more important to determine whether the escort is your type, and in my opinion it's more important that his personality and approach be your type than that he be your physical ideal. But that's just my take on it.

 

As for an appointment leading to something more: It happens sometimes, but it's unusual. While it's not uncommon for a client and an escort to become friends, most escorts will not convert a professional relationship into a personal one. (And there's an argument to be made that doing so is unwise, unethical, or bad business.) Do not expect it.

[BaronArtz]

 

 

 

As for an appointment leading to something more: It happens sometimes, but it's unusual. While it's not uncommon for a client and an escort to become friends, most escorts will not convert a professional relationship into a personal one. (And there's an argument to be made that doing so is unwise, unethical, or bad business.) Do not expect it.

 

Hi - I am not agreeing nor disagreeing with this statement. Would you care to elaborate? Especially the unethical part of it? Thank you.

[bigvalboy]

I've had my friends hire me before, they were friends first though. I think as long as the escort and client are mature and understand when at lunch they can be buddies and in the sack is another type of relationship, I don't see a problem. Clearly express your ground rules, and don't let it spiral out of control. Cheers

 

That has never worked for me...lol....God knows I've tried. Once I establish a friendship, I stop seeing them in a sexual way.

[Guest countryboywny]

Once I establish a friendship, I stop seeing them in a sexual way.

 

I no longer wish to be your friend!

[bigvalboy]

I no longer wish to be your friend!

 

Got me CB...funny stuff. ;) Laughing my ass off!!

[+ quoththeraven]

Hi - I am not agreeing nor disagreeing with this statement. Would you care to elaborate? Especially the unethical part of it? Thank you.

 

"Unethical" because of the possibility (some might say the likelihood) that the relationship exists because of a power imbalance that's being or will be exploited. The power imbalance can be in either direction -- in favor of the client, who may have money and status, or in favor of the escort/former escort, who in many instances has youth and looks on his side -- or in both. Add in that the people involved met as a result of acts that are commercial in nature but also intimate and often triggering powerful and positive emotions, and you have the potential for either or both parties overlooking warning signs that the relationship is unbalanced and one or the other (or both) is taking advantage financially or emotionally. It's similar to the problems with a relationship between an employer/supervisor and employee or a teacher/student.

 

It's unwise or bad business because it leads to the hope or expectation on the part of other clients that this might happen with them. An escort ending his career as a result of entering into a relationship with a client is also fundamentally at odds with treating escorting as a business or a profession. It can also be the source of confusion for both parties.

 

Here, I'm talking about people developing relationships after first having met as escort and client, not about an existing friend hiring an escort (presumably for their usual rate). That's a different matter; there the issue is more whether they (mostly the client, I'd think) can maintain the distinction between the friendship and sex under those circumstances. I consider that a practical difficulty, not an ethical one.

[+ FreshFluff]

Client here. People are more than the sum of their body parts. Good looks don't guarantee chemistry or sexual ability. Personality and interests play a part as well. Someone who isn't an escort's physical type may have great chemistry with him anyway; someone who is an escort's physical type may still not click with him sexually or otherwise. In fact, it's my belief that escorts have to do a lot less acting in this regard than people think because living up to some physical ideal isn't as important to sex and sexual attraction -- let alone relationships -- as is generally thought.

 

As long as you do your research and meet the minimum requirements outlined above, the question of whether you're the escort's type should be irrelevant. As noted, it's more important to determine whether the escort is your type, and in my opinion it's more important that his personality and approach be your type than that he be your physical ideal. But that's just my take on it.

 

 

 

I think it's hard to make a statement like that without considering physical appearance. What if you're a client who is only attracted to blond twinks? In that situation, if the escort isn't that type, then it doesn't matter how compatible the escort's personality is with the client's.

[Juan Vancouver]

Client here. People are more than the sum of their body parts. Good looks don't guarantee chemistry or sexual ability. Personality and interests play a part as well. Someone who isn't an escort's physical type may have great chemistry with him anyway; someone who is an escort's physical type may still not click with him sexually or otherwise. In fact, it's my belief that escorts have to do a lot less acting in this regard than people think because living up to some physical ideal isn't as important to sex and sexual attraction -- let alone relationships -- as is generally thought.

 

Beautifully put! Thank you.

 

"Unethical" because of the possibility (some might say the likelihood) that the relationship exists because of a power imbalance that's being or will be exploited. The power imbalance can be in either direction -- in favor of the client, who may have money and status, or in favor of the escort/former escort, who in many instances has youth and looks on his side -- or in both. Add in that the people involved met as a result of acts that are commercial in nature but also intimate and often triggering powerful and positive emotions, and you have the potential for either or both parties overlooking warning signs that the relationship is unbalanced and one or the other (or both) is taking advantage financially or emotionally. It's similar to the problems with a relationship between an employer/supervisor and employee or a teacher/student.

 

It's unwise or bad business because it leads to the hope or expectation on the part of other clients that this might happen with them. An escort ending his career as a result of entering into a relationship with a client is also fundamentally at odds with treating escorting as a business or a profession. It can also be the source of confusion for both parties.

 

Here, I'm talking about people developing relationships after first having met as escort and client, not about an existing friend hiring an escort (presumably for their usual rate). That's a different matter; there the issue is more whether they (mostly the client, I'd think) can maintain the distinction between the friendship and sex under those circumstances. I consider that a practical difficulty, not an ethical one.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

In other words how can a young man in need of sustenance ever relax, feel loved and be genuine with his partner if his whole sustenance depends on this man being totally smitten with him? How can an older man fully trust that Guido is with him because he loves him, because he sees him, he appreciates him... and not because of his money? In those circumstances, intimacy -which normally proves to be terribly challenging- is almost impossible.

 

In other words, I could sweeten the pot every time and make every client feel as if I am inexplicably, utterly, helplessly falling in love with them... then play them for money, cars, an education, real estate, you name it.

 

That's why my personal view is that it is unethical.

 

If I ever feel any kind of romantic feelings towards a client I will stop seeing him immediately. If I feel that a client is feeling romantic feelings for me I will talk about this with him and if it is under control I will cautiously continue the relationship unless it is obvious it is not healthy for him.

 

I believe my professional duty is to provide a safe space in which intimacy and sexual exploration can happen in a healthy way. I will not do anything that will impede that. But of course, this is my personal way. There are many ways to engage in this profession and I believe they are all valid and necessary because there are many different types of clients.

[+ purplekow]

if an escort is worried about me falling in love with him, well he has a lot of worry about. My relationship with most escorts is that I absolutely positively fall in love with them. And as with most of my sexual relationships, professional or social, that love lasts until i get out the door or they do.

[+ quoththeraven]

I think it's hard to make a statement like that without considering physical appearance. What if you're a client who is only attracted to blond twinks? In that situation, if the escort isn't that type, then it doesn't matter how compatible the escort's personality is with the client's.

 

It's true that clients may look at it that narrowly when choosing an escort to hire, but are they really unable to enjoy themselves with anyone other than their ideal as opposed to being most easily turned on by their ideal? I think they're missing out by being that specific. It may be that someone other than the blond twink would be a more rewarding partner because he's more experienced, better in bed, or a more interesting person. My prejudices may be showing, though; I've found that sexual chemistry and performance often has little to do with appearance or how close someone is to one's physical ideal. In general, I think we would all benefit from being more open-minded about such things.

 

Another reason I wrote what I did is that I want to challenge the assumption that someone who's overweight, average-looking, or otherwise appearance-challenged has no hope of attracting an attractive guy outside of the world of escorting. It's not necessarily true. Sure, appearance is influential, especially when choosing casual partners, but there are too many relationships between partners of the same and opposite sex who would be considered mismatched when it comes to appearance for it to be true across the board.

[wklucas]

"""but there are too many relationships between partners of the same and opposite sex who would be considered mismatched when it comes to appearance for it to be true across the board."""

 

 

 

I always think of (what I consider brilliant) casting of Modern Family's Mitchell & Cameron.....in a rerun episode just yesterday, in a scene Cam, upset about something, slumps down against a wall to the floor - looked like the fatty that he is but also as a lovable teddy bear......by the way, who's the top in that relationship ? I assume maybe for several reasons, Mitch.....but I've never really been certain of that......not important anyway - the show was just meant to be enjoyed......(well, until Luke got older.....& morphed into a somewhat dorky early teen & was given less comical lines & scenes)

[SteveEscort]

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Hi Ayaydaddy,

 

I hesitated if I would chime in or not and as you can see I chimed in. I don't mind you asking this question, as I think that that's what this forum is for. However, for a newbie you're very, very familiar with flagging, threads turning into a flaming war, posts taken down by a mod, etc. etc. That doesn't sound like a newbie to me ....

 

 

...and this got me time out and I dared to speak out. I notice that author of the post hasn't since replied, maybe I'm wrong, I had to skim through through the forum tonight.

 

I noticed something wrong, deej took offence at me watching someone, unfortunately the loyal followers of the site note and do things and even though we are not moderators, we moderate it to stop the likes of reporters, rednecks and general troublemakers and to stop this very good forum and society from being dragged down

 

Why did I take offence. It was this comment

no-condom

that convinced me the post wasn't genuine. A novice is more concerned about whats on offer, not what keeps you coming back and bareback is the last thing on their mind, Take that from a seasoned escort who has been around the block a bit.

 

I got time out but all I tried to do was question this new poster who was exceptionally well conversed

 

Deej, no offence was meant. I just tried to protect the community

[Newtdad]

...and this got me time out and I dared to speak out. I notice that author of the post hasn't since replied, maybe I'm wrong, I had to skim through through the forum tonight.

 

I'm pretty sure I replied since.

 

 

Why did I take offence. It was this comment "no-condom" that convinced me the post wasn't genuine. A novice is more concerned about whats on offer, not what keeps you coming back and bareback is the last thing on their mind, Take that from a seasoned escort who has been around the block a bit.

 

I didn't know that "no condom" is a taboo topic to discuss in this forum, and I certainly wasn't expecting escorts to be overly sensitive about it. Nonetheless, you are well within you're right to take offense. However, that doesn't mean your accusations are correct. If it makes you feel better, feel free to continue to accuse. I never take offense on the internet.

 

 

Deej, no offence was meant. I just tried to protect the community

 

I might be fairly new, but that doesn't mean I'm not part of the community.

[gallahadesquire]

Listen, with a 60,000 mile warranty and some good fire insurance, my money's on the Baron. http://www.boytoy.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png

 

Wasn't LeBaron a kind of Chrysler?

[Newtdad]

Since you want to focus the subject to that specific item you quoted "I might be fairly new", I'll happily oblige and respond...

 

(You may be a fairly new registered user here, your posts suggest to me that you've been a regular visitor of this forum for longer than that.

 

Feel free to ask the super-moderator and check my IP address to see when I was first around since that's the only way to prove it anyway. I'm pretty certain on when I first visited here.

 

I think there's nothing wrong with being a regular visitor here before you register, but pretending that you're new here if you've actually been on this forum clearly longer is what makes me sad.).

 

What's actually sad is that you personally focused on that one quote ("I might be fairly new"), didn't look for the veracity of any data, and jumped to a conclusion when all you did was assume -- you put Sherlock Holmes to shame my friend. Like I said, feel free to ask the super-moderator so you can at least have some facts to help you build a better conclusion. And as the old saying goes... when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

 

Nonetheless, like I told the other poster/escort, you're more than welcome to accuse as much as you want to your heart's content. I won't take offense to such, and I will gladly talk about it and respond to it.

 

 

========

 

EDIT: Also, i think you were missing the point. The other poster/escort said that he "just tried to protect the community", thereby implying that I was not part of the community (due to being new). You were focusing on the wrong words. It was not about me being new, but rather it was more about who comprises the community. Feel free to re-read the post again for a better comprehension.

[BaronArtz]

 

I've been escorting for more than ten years and in that time frame there were two clients I consider my type.

 

 

Dear Anton - I don't know how many clients you have seen in 10 years, but when I read that there were only two of them that you consider your type ... I find that so very depressing. Do you find that this business hardened you? Don't take this as a critique please, it is just my observation.

[+ FreshFluff]

In addition to flagging, threads turning into a flaming war, posts taken down by a mod, in your last post you not only showed you're also familiar with moderators checking IP addresses, you also know how to make italic text in your posts. Your profile says you're a registered user from Nov. 28th which is two weeks and two days ago. Again, for or a newbie I find that you're very familiar with many aspects of the forum. (The last senctence btw. is an opinion.)

 

 

If he's been a regular on another vBulletin forum, he would know how to italicize and so on. Flagging or reporting posts is pretty common in most forums too.

 

But the IP address check that the OP suggests wouldn't prove much, as IPs are easy to change. Other than IP geolocation, I wonder if there are other patterns that suggest a match? If there was a reliable method, of course, the mods wouldn't reveal it publicly.

[Newtdad]

Hi Anton, You're soo cute... traveling to Switzerland and Germany to prove a point, you li'l devil you. You're so cute, I might consider hiring someone with a similar attitude like yours. Nonetheless, keep in mind that most of us wouldn't go to such lengths, especially just to read and respond a forum about escort services. We're busy earning our monies too. I personally just click the link on my inbox, so I can get redirected to the site, and my browser has my password saved to this site. The approach you mentioned is more unnecessary work for a few minutes of browsing. The ROI is not worth it for me.

 

As for me being familiar to with many aspects of the forum like using italics and such, FreshFluff has it right. There are tons of other sites that use this same application (vBulletin as FreshFluff calls it). This is definitely not new technology.

 

As for my knowledge on the IP address suggestion I made, FreshFluff just proved me wrong as it is not foolproof according to his links. I guess my suggestion wasn't even worth debating to begin with.

 

As for the difference between "Questioning, suggesting, accusing and assuming", it doesn't really matter what word you want to use. The intent was the same. You and the other escort tried to paint me in a different light.

 

 

(Look! I tried to use italics again!)

[TruHart1]

Hi FreshFluff,

 

 

 

That's exactly the point and I was expecting ayjaydaddy to mention after my first post what you just wrote. But he didn't .....

 

Someone else needed to mention that possibility in this thread ....

 

Do you see my point?

 

Sincerely, Anton.

 

Hi Anton, You're soo cute... etc.

 

As for me being familiar to with many aspects of the forum like using italics and such, FreshFluff has it right. There are tons of other sites that use this same application (vBulletin as FreshFluff calls it). This is definitely not new technology.

 

As for my knowledge on the IP address suggestion I made, FreshFluff just proved me wrong as it is not foolproof according to his links... etc.

 

 

Now you must admit Anton that he doesn't even realize that FleshFluff is a lady. He MUST be a true newbie, no?

 

TruHart1

[bigvalboy]

(... and I'm back)

 

However, and less than five minutes later my IP address has changed and now I seem to be writing from Germany. Would any of the moderators be so kind to confirm this?

 

In addition to flagging, threads turning into a flaming war, posts taken down by a mod, in your last post you not only showed you're also familiar with moderators checking IP addresses, you also know how to make italic text in your posts. Your profile says you're a registered user from Nov. 28th which is two weeks and two days ago. Again, for or a newbie I find that you're very familiar with many aspects of the forum. (The last senctence btw. is an opinion.)

 

(Nope, I'm not making any assumptions here. Most of the things I just mentioned are facts you gave us yourself. The veracity of that data can be easily double-checked by every follower of this post.)

 

Regarding jumping to conclusions and making accusations, I'm not sure where I did any of those. Please let me know where I did. Granted, I am questioning you're a newbie here, but that's about it. Questioning, suggesting, accusing and assuming are still different words in my dictionary.

 

Please note as well that there's a difference between "pretending that you're new here while you've actually been on this forum clearly longer" and "pretending that you're new here if you've actually been on this forum clearly longer". I wrote that some things can make me sad if they occur, no more, no less.

 

I don't think I was missing any point either. Steven had been writing about the things he found important while I have been writing about the things I found important.

 

But I'm going to leave this discussion for what it is. I made my point and there's no point in doing it again and again.

 

Regardless of the above, have fun on the forum!

 

All my best, Anton.

 

Bingo...Give that man a cupie doll.

[+ Funguy]

Wow, how did we really get this far off the title of the thread?! I'm much more interested in the answer to the question posed.

[TruHart1]

Wow, how did we really get this far off the title of the thread?! I'm much more interested in the answer to the question posed.

 

I do believe the thread was hijacked a bit because a few of people called ayjaydaddy's newbie status into question since he tends to ask quite controversial questions when he starts a thread?

 

Now, all you beautiful escorts out there, chime in with your answers to the OP question please. It IS an interesting topic, after all, as funguy states! Thank you all!

 

TruHart1

[+ Funguy]

Besides…..when I'm with you guys (escorts), I want to know what YOU like so you guys have a great time, too.

[Newtdad]

Hi FreshFluff,

 

That's exactly the point and I was expecting ayjaydaddy to mention after my first post what you just wrote. But he didn't .....

 

Someone else needed to mention that possibility in this thread ....

 

Do you see my point?

 

Sincerely, Anton.

 

 

Well, what you were accusing me of was that I was a lurker to this Escort forum before creating a new account. What FleshFluff was pointing out was that there were other forum sites (like Civic forum sites) that I could have used which has a similar vBulletin application. Big difference, buddy.

 

 

Now you must admit Anton that he doesn't even realize that FleshFluff is a lady. He MUST be a true newbie, no?

 

TruHart1

 

 

Sorry, FleshFluff. I didn't know.

 

 

Wow, how did we really get this far off the title of the thread?! I'm much more interested in the answer to the question posed.

 

 

Totally agree. =)