Confused by Escort

[+ Gar1eth]

I don't think I've ever had an escort suggest getting dinner before. If it did happen, it has probably only been once or twice. In my opinion it wasnt fair of the escort to try to increase his fee that way without clarifying with the client that he expected to be paid for that amount of time.

 

Gman

[Epigonos]

This situation proves a point that justifiably gets beaten to death on this site. To facilitate a successful meeting with an escort requires communication, Communication, and more COMMUNICATION. I NEVER hire for one hour but rather for two hours plus either lunch of dinner (the escorts choice). In my first communicated with a potential hire I explain that I require his time for a meal plus two hours of play time and ask if he is available and interested and if so what his fee would be. This immediately settles the issue of whether or not he expects to be paid for the meal time. Nearly all of the guys I have hired have NOT charged for the meal time. One or two have added approximately half of their hourly rate. The only times the get togethers have fallen through is when their two hour rate was more than I was willing to pay. The meal time has never been the deal breaker. In all my years of hiring only one escort, Benjamin Nicholas, paid for the dinner, on our first meeting, while I was in the restroom. I damn near died and although I argued with him he absolutely refused to allow me to reimburse him.

[Lohengrin1979]

Whenever I've been asked by an escort or a masseur to grab food before or after a session, it has been either dutch or them treating me, and it has happened a few times. If I ask them, I am paying. I don't think either situation produces an unreasonable situation or expectations. The fact that the escort suggested that they grab dinner and then didn't inform the OP that he would be paying the extra hour until AFTER the session makes the escort suspect, in my opinion.

 

I also have to agree with other posters who spokeabout the institution of the business lunch. Many a maestro, coach, agent, impresario, and whoever else has dined free through my largess and it has proved very beneficial for my career overall. This escort missed the chance to have monthly confirmed appointment as part of his regular travel plans in an attempt to gain one extra hour's worth of pay and that's a shame.

 

 

Lohengrin

[jimboivyo]

In all my years of hiring only one escort, Benjamin Nicholas, paid for the dinner, on our first meeting, while I was in the restroom. I damn near died and although I argued with him he absolutely refused to allow me to reimburse him.

 

Benjamin is a class act. Always has been with me and obviously with others too

[adriano46]

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Hmm. Baked Alaska for twenty-five dollars,

and another hundred bucks to watch you eat it.

 

LMAO - Now THIS brought back memories of a jerk escort in Budapest who, hired for an overnight, after refusing to eat in a restaurant, cutting short the theatre at half time (HE was bored); then running up a bill in a beer garden, on hitting the room at 11:30 p.m. decided, "Gee, I am hungry!" and ordered the MOST EXPENSIVE things on the menu that, being delivered after midnight, cost me even more! I should have thrown him out before the order was placed. As it was, one of the WORST overnights imaginable. (He bitched and complained I asked him to leave before breakfast).

[Frankly Rich]

When having a meal in a restaurant most waiters will ask if I would like dessert when I had my meal. If I say yes, I understand I have to pay for it. After all, the price of dessert can be found on the menu. If the dessert menu wasn't on the table yet, the waiter will give it to me when he asks me the question.

 

There are these clients who will invite their lawyer for lunch, either before or after an appointment. That way the client often gets extra legal advice from the lawyer without paying his hourly rate. After all, most lawyer's don't hand over a price-chart with their rates for going for lunch just before leaving the office to go for lunch.

 

In your specific situation I don't see that you agreed with the escort to pay his time while having dinner with him. I also assume he didn't publish his dinner rates either.

 

Anton.

 

Someone seeking free legal advice? Horrors!

[+ poolboy48220]

Another +1 to the communication suggestions, a simple "is this on the clock?" question seems to be the simplest way to ask. I had a great time with a visiting escort earlier this year. We were texting the next day and he asked if I wanted to meet up again, I said I couldn't afford it again so soon. He suggested meeting up for dinner later, I paid for dinner but otherwise it was all off the clock. We had a wonderful time.

[Decatur Guy]

Like Epigonos said, it's about communication and making things clear and upfront. I've had all types of various dinner/drink situations and they all worked out because of communication.

 

A few times, I've hired escorts where going to a bar was simply part of "the scene." In that case, I was paying for drinks and time and that was understood. We were either setting a mood between us or actually cruising for a third to join us (and that was also understood well beforehand). In these cases, that was part of the contracted time, so to speak.

 

I've also had a few before-sessoin or after-session dinners. Those were not "on the clock" and we both communicated on that. If it's after a session and after I've already paid him, I just generally say, "I'd be glad to buy you dinner if you're hungry." Usually I don't, but sometimes it comes up.

 

Finally, I've met a few escorts off the forum ONLY for dinner or to show them around town. I made clear it was a Forum-to-Forum buddy situation and I was buying dinner for a Forum buddy and nothing more. They took me up on that. And in one guy's case, that lead to me hiring him a few months later.

[imrthr]

 

Last night I hooked up with an escort for the third time. He visits the city I live in about once a month. I have had an incredible time with him all three times. He is very skilled at what he does.

 

For the first two appointments we met for one hour. At the end of our second meeting, he suggested that as a part of our next meeting we should go out to dinner first. When I e-mailed him to set up our third session, he again mentioned going out "for a nice dinner". I then said let's start our 3rd time together with dinner.

 

We had dinner together and then a great session at his hotel. As I paid him the usual amount for our time together, he informed me that I needed to pay for the hour we spent at dinner. He said that that was how the business worked. I was shocked! I couldn't believe that he asked me to go to dinner and then wanted me to pay. How naive of me!

 

Am I correct in thinking that since he made the suggestion twice before I agreed, I shouldn't be asked to pay for the additional hour?

 

I learned a valuable lesson from this experience. Needless to say, I won't be seeing him again.

 

 

I am not an escort, rather, I am a licensed professional executive with many clients that I bill by the hour.

 

Many of my clients I have known for many years. Occasionally, we have lunch or dinner together. Sometimes I suggest lunch or dinner and sometimes the suggestion comes from my clients.

 

I cannot think of anything more unappreciative and/or insulting I could do to my clients than to bill them for the time we spend at lunch or dinner. Such behavior is preposterous.

 

An escort who expects to be paid for time eating dinner with a client while that same escort is the one who extended the invitation for dinner is not an escort. Instead, such a person is a simple hustler. Behavior and actions differentiate a hustler from an escort.

 

I believe that the OP has a bonafide reason to be disappointed and surprised by the hustler who invited himself to dinner at the client’s expense, then asked to be paid to sit and eat with the client while the client paid the bill.

[BryanKnight]

When dealing with an escort, you assume any time you spend with them is paid.

UNLESS YOU CLARIFY UP FRONT THAT IT ISN'T.

 

They may be extending a gesture of genuine friendship outside of the professional setting, but until you have know them a while, you cannot assume this.

 

I've had clients ask me if going to dinner with them would be "on the clock" or "off the clock", which was polite and non-intrusive.

[BSR]

But Bryan, would you ever ask a client, not once, not twice, but three times to have dinner before a session? Obviously, the OP realizes now that he should have clarified ahead of time ("wisdom ... by experience, which is the bitterest"). But suggesting three times (wait, make that insisting) that they have dinner beforehand 1) is just so f*cking TACKY, and 2) that's what makes the whole thing come off as a hustle. I'm guessing that the oh so tacky escort didn't get quite the "billable hours" he normally did when visiting the OP's city. In order to cover expenses and to make the travels worth his worth his while, he kinda sorta manipulated a semi-regular client into a longer session. Penny wise, but pound foolish. I do hope the OP sent the very tacky escort an email informing him that he will no longer be needing his services.

[jimboivyo]

When dealing with an escort, you assume any time you spend with them is paid.

UNLESS YOU CLARIFY UP FRONT THAT IT ISN'T.

 

They may be extending a gesture of genuine friendship outside of the professional setting, but until you have know them a while, you cannot assume this.

 

I've had clients ask me if going to dinner with them would be "on the clock" or "off the clock", which was polite and non-intrusive.

 

this. the truth right here.

 

don't fool yourselves boys, these are escorts we're dealing with. they want to be paid for their time. isn't that the whole point of it?

 

others have said it here. communicate before hand to avoid this petty shit