A question of wording,perhaps "Phrasing"

[gallahadesquire]

Maybe this should be in the Deli section, but here goes:

 

I'm always amen aback slightly when I see the word positive in an advertisement. "Positive attitude" has, to me, a connotation of "I'm HIV+ and I'm otherwise healthy and I feel good about life anyway." Although of lower risk, French kissing and saliva exchange s one f my favorite things to do, but I get worried about the HIV thing here.

 

Call me paranoid …

[MFLV]

If it is any consultation I tend to think the same when I see that word in an ad/profile. The exact same question comes to my mind is there a hidden meaning ? Right or wrong it puts a flag in my mind. So you're not alone cause I feel the same.

[Steven_Draker]

Although of lower risk, French kissing and saliva exchange s one f my favorite things to do, but I get worried about the HIV thing here.

 

Call me paranoid …

 

Dear Paranoid,

12% still presume that HIV can be transmitted through kissing.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/astrodazed/transmission.jpg

 

There is not enough HIV in saliva to cause infection in another person.

 

You cannot contract HIV through kissing unless another infectious fluid (blood, semen) is also present or you're both massively bleeding from the mouth.

 

http://www.ninecircles.ca/awarenesscampaign/images/hiv_transmission_basics.png

 

(Sorry for the educational post)

[+ Gar1eth]

Dear Paranoid,

12% still presume that HIV can be transmitted through kissing.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/astrodazed/transmission.jpg

 

There is not enough HIV in saliva to cause infection in another person.

 

You cannot contract HIV through kissing unless another infectious fluid (blood, semen) is also present or you're both massively bleeding from the mouth.

 

http://www.ninecircles.ca/awarenesscampaign/images/hiv_transmission_basics.png

 

(Sorry for the educational post)[/color]

 

So the question with this Steven would be, if an infected person has gum disease and his gums have a tendency to bleed with kissing- is that a risk for the other person. Or if a non-infected person with gum disease bleeds with kissing whether that might be enough of a portal to cause infection.

 

Gman

[Frankly Rich]

If, in this day and age, with years now having passed wherein gay men and others were educated on the risk of transmitting HIV by kissing, there is a person who still fears that he will get HIV by kissing, then I would say, by all means, don't kiss! You are reacting despite all of this education, despite all of this scientific evidence, and there can be little doubt that your reaction is not based upon the science, or the lack thereof, but on emotions, and no one can settle that riddle but you.

If kissing transmitted HIV, we would all have died years ago. To fear it now certainly cannot be based on science. We can give you the facts until we are both blue, but nothing will change until you deal with your emotional discomfort.

[nynakedtop]

If kissing transmitted HIV, we would all have died years ago. To fear it now certainly cannot be based on science. We can give you the facts until we are both blue, but nothing will change until you deal with your emotional discomfort.

 

Bravo... Some guys on sites ask me if I am "clean" as if someone carrying a disease is somehow "dirty".

 

Pisses me off.

[Steven_Draker]

People fear what they don't understand.

[Frankly Rich]

I m not unsympathetic to fears, we all have them. But for a gay man, it's well time that he understood the science and dealt with his fears. To have an irrational fear decades after the truth came to light is the act of someone not trying. Can you imagine if his worry was that the earth is flat and he might slide off? Not much difference.

[biguy]

I m not unsympathetic to fears, we all have them. But for a gay man, it's well time that he understood the science and dealt with his fears. To have an irrational fear decades after the truth came to light is the act of someone not trying. Can you imagine if his worry was that the earth is flat and he might slide off? Not much difference.

 

These arguments are much akin to the "vaccines cause autism" fears which physicians must deal with on a DAILY basis. Thus, we now have measles, polio, whooping cough on the rise and, in some areas, epidemic!

[corndog]

Returning to the question of subtle messages about HIV or barebacking, I've run across this advertisement for a masseur that seems to be hinting that barebacking might be on the menu: http://www.masseurfinder.com/members/kevininsd.shtml

 

His ad begins: "You can HAVE IT ALL with me! I'll let you release you top concerns tension for bare release."

 

It's conceivable that he's just trying to say that he'll do the massage in the nude, but I just choose to stay away.

[jimboivyo]

Maybe this should be in the Deli section, but here goes:

 

I'm always amen aback slightly when I see the word positive in an advertisement. "Positive attitude" has, to me, a connotation of "I'm HIV+ and I'm otherwise healthy and I feel good about life anyway." Although of lower risk, French kissing and saliva exchange s one f my favorite things to do, but I get worried about the HIV thing here.

 

Call me paranoid …

 

 

call you under educated on the realities of HIV. You sure ain't getting it through kissing

[desertguy1954]

Corndog,

I do not think that his message is subtle at all. From the way I read his ad, yes if you wanted to he enjoys bb. Though with him being a massage guy sounds like that is just one of his options for your release.

Also, did you contact him to see if this was the case.

[Steven_Draker]

I'm always amen aback slightly when I see the word positive in an advertisement. "Positive attitude" has, to me, a connotation of "I'm HIV+ and I'm otherwise healthy and I feel good about life anyway."

 

How do you feel about this?

 

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[Frankly Rich]

I know the question is not directed to me, but I like it.

[down_to_business]

I know the question is not directed to me, but I like it.

 

Are you saying you have a positive opinion

[Frankly Rich]

Indeed.

[rguer]

Although of lower risk, French kissing and saliva exchange s one f my favorite things to do, but I get worried about the HIV thing here.

 

Take PrEP (Truvada). It's expensive, but no more so than a few escorting sessions. Continue to use condoms, of course.

[gallahadesquire]

How do you feel about this?[/color]

 

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truth be told: Not so good. But I appreciate all the input here.

 

I was hoping for more feedback on the phrasing / terminology of "positive".

[bostonman]

I was hoping for more feedback on the phrasing / terminology of "positive".

 

Well, I suppose the negative spin on the word "positive" is to be expected - but let's not forget, it has nothing really specifically/exclusively to do with HIV. "Positive" is (as I know you know) the word used in conjunction with any medical test to denote (speaking purely as a layman here) that they found what they were testing for. A "positive" cancer diagnosis is never good news, but a "positive" pregnancy test may very well be wonderful news (depending on the circumstance, of course). So perhaps "positive" has gotten a unique spin within the gay community (and elsewhere) over the last few decades, because of the specific diagnosis that has changed our world. But so has the word "aids" for that matter.

 

I think one has to remember that it is still a normal, affirming word in the English language, despite its medical connotation. Yes, perhaps escorts should be careful not to use the word in their ad - but we should all keep in mind that it is, still, just a word that sometimes means good things.

[+ purplekow]

I do not want to be negative. Yes positve has both postive and negative meanings so since there are two positives, it means the message is not necessarily negative. I do not mean to be negative but I am positive I am right that not all references to an ecort being positively sensational refer to being positive for a disease. Being positve for a disease is a negative thing generally. Some escorts do bareback, they see it as a plus and they figure it adds positively to their desirabilty and income, from a select segment of the men out there. So positve may be a negative for you, but for some escorts positive is positively positive, whether they are positive of negative is another issue.