When escorts accidentally leave lube at your place, do you call them back or keep it?

[rvwnsd]

(Sigh. . . ) followed by another world-weary sigh. . .

 

Actually this has happened to me so many times in my career that I created a special shrine in my house to keep this memorabilia. I went over to IKEA and bought me a fabulous curio cabinet to display these very trophies. I made little display cards just like you see in museums with names and dates clearly marked on the cards. It's become a conversation piece for my many guests when they come over to frolic and play. I've even had trick-or-treaters come by and ask to see the special exhibit. Word has got around and now I have guys actually "forget" stuff on purpose. Just to be included. I'm thinking of contacting Frommers and Fodors for inclusion in next year's edition of Things to See in Philadelphia.

 

I truly L-ed OL when I read this. Very clever and funny!

[Epigonos]

Damn you guys are tough!!!!!

[Phil_musc]

I truly L-ed OL when I read this. Very clever and funny!

 

I was thinking of taking it a step further and charge admission to see the exhibit. Hey, if they can have a sex museum in Copenhagen, why can I have a museum of escort memorabilia that I've acquired? There are bound to be all sorts of folks curious about this very topic. That way I could also consider my escort visits a business expense and claim a tax deduction. It might even bring me out of my hiring slump. . .-in the interest of keeping the exhibit current. Don't worry, guys, I'll be very discreet about this and only use initials for identification purposes. That way, only those who are truly in the know will understand.

[instudiocity]

Damn you guys are tough!!!!!

When it comes to Joey, we have a different standard.

 

I normally enjoy getting some titty with that much bitchin'.

[Steven_Draker]

I've had guys forget bottles of poppers, lube, condoms, umbrellas, jewelry, watches, phones, minds, you name it.

 

When I realize that a client has forgotten something I try to inform him as soon as possible, when he's still in the vicinity of the hotel. Once the client has left the area of the hotel and if we're just talking about lube or poppers, it's more of a trouble to drive and get it back the next day than buying a new bottle.

[+ FreshFluff]

I was thinking of taking it a step further and charge admission to see the exhibit. Hey, if they can have a sex museum in Copenhagen, why can I have a museum of escort memorabilia that I've acquired? There are bound to be all sorts of folks curious about this very topic. That way I could also consider my escort visits a business expense and claim a tax deduction. It might even bring me out of my hiring slump. . .-in the interest of keeping the exhibit current. Don't worry, guys, I'll be very discreet about this and only use initials for identification purposes. That way, only those who are truly in the know will understand.[/quote

 

Damn, if I were only a modern artist! Think of what someone might pay for this is the art "specialists" sold it correctly: "The spilled lube subtly mirrors subtly mocks the weakening patriarchy.."

[JoeyBryant]

Twice someone I've hired has left something behind. Both times I called the person right away and they retrieved their property. As someone who has seen Joey in DC, I would gladly see him again.

 

 

Thankyou, I'll have to get out to DC again.

 

 

Yep, this is the biggest issue. When you're delivering a high end experience, you don't want the client to feel you're nickel and diming him. Yes, it's frustrating to lose a $25 item, but keeping your paying clients happy will be better for your business in the long run. Even if he called you about the lube, the best response would be, "Keep it and use it in good health!"

 

 

OK, I don't see what all the negatively is about. Who are you to tell me how I should respond to someone about something I paid for? Especially if the person called me back. You need to stay in your place. I'm sorry but, there's no 'complimentary' lube bottle with appointment. That's not going to happen. It's not nickel and diming a client. Please look that definition up, and get to back to me about it. Nickel and diming is:

 

nick·el-and-dime (nkl-n-dm) Informal

adj.

1. Involving or paying only a small amount of money: a nickel-and-dime job.

2. Minor; small-time: "a nickel-and-dime operation run out of a single borrowed room" (New York).

v. nick·el-and-dimed or nick·eled-and-dimed, nick·el-and-dim·ing or nick·el·ing-and-dim·ing, nick·el-and-dimes or nick·els-and-dimes

v.intr.

To spend very little money.

v.tr.

1. To drain or destroy bit by bit, especially financially: nickel-and-dimed the project to death.

2. To accumulate in small amounts: "nickel-and-diming a substantial bankroll together" (Newsweek).

 

Listen...everyone. I'm not going to even try and argue whether the issue is petty or not. Maybe it is. If it only happened the FIRST TIME. However, I've left lube at places before and didn't mention anything about it. I also have spare lube bottles at home, but they are inferior to the one I had before.

 

This is not even about money. It's about an item. But for one, the bottle was not simply 'half' full. It had only gotten a few squirts out. In addition, I bought it with me from Wilton Manors because I always have a hard time finding Gun Oil, Swiss Navy, etc in the sex shops in my area...namely because there are not many of those gay boutique sex/underwear shops like the have in Dallas/Wilton Manors, etc. Very often, I've ended up buying 'recommended' lubes that are supposed to be 'similar' from these shops because they don't sell the lube I'm looking for.

 

I'm not blaming the client. But, if the person can pick up the phone and text me every few minutes or call me repeatedly PRIOR to the appointment, that same courtesy would be appreciated after if something was left.

 

Nickel and Diming would be me buying KY Jelly from walgreens, and using that on clients. But no, I go out of my way to pick out the very best in lubes and I don't even CARE how much it cost. In the case of this bottle, it was $55. But I'm nickel and diming? I get clients asking me ALL THE TIME what kind of lube I used on them. So you can IMAGINE that when it's not returned the once in a blue IF it gets forgotten...it's an inconvenience, however petty. I understand that the client is not to blame, but if it happens, it's not going to hurt to just pick up the phone in the same way I was contacted before I arrived. That's all I'm saying. It's not meant to be an argument. It's simply saying, "yes I understand you've paid me X amount for our time together, BUT...the lube I use does not come with the appointment. No other freelancer gives away their shop supplies. If a photographer came in and did a photo shoot of me, and forgot a prop...that does not mean it's mine to keep. And pretty sure they'll contact me back to retrieve it. But I'm nickel and diming. LOL. Wow. I would have never imagined.

 

You can ask ANYONE, you come to my hotel or place I'll gladly pop open a bottle of wine and offer it to a client. The airlines won't do that...and they get paid WAY more than me. So please, don't even put that on my name like that. For the people who have actually met me before, you should be ashamed of yourselves to even say that. When you know better.

 

I've had guys forget bottles of poppers, lube, condoms, umbrellas, jewelry, watches, phones, minds, you name it.

 

When I realize that a client has forgotten something I try to inform him as soon as possible, when he's still in the vicinity of the hotel. Once the client has left the area of the hotel and if we're just talking about lube or poppers, it's more of a trouble to drive and get it back the next day than buying a new bottle.[/color]

 

Well that's the good thing to do Steven. But the thing is too, it's not like I'm asking the client to bring the item back to me. I have a car. I wouldn't have to taxi back to the hotel so it would not have been 'more trouble' to drive and get it. Especially since I'm often in that vicinity anyway. So I can't see the justification there.

 

I don't tend to forget all those other things, and try to limit what I do bring to appointments...but lube often gets lost because it often rolls away or gets hidden from view under pillows and stuff.

[+ FreshFluff]

Joey,

 

I wrote that "you don't want the client to feel you're nickel and diming him" (added emphasis.) I don't think most clients know how much lube costs, and so they think their time --to find an opaque package so reception can't see what's inside, wrap it up, and bring it to reception-- is more valuable than the lube.

 

I lose stuff all the time, so I sympathize. Losing disposable items (condoms, lube, supplies, etc.) seems like a cost of doing business in most service industries. That's why I recommended using 2 oz bottles, so you don't lose much.

 

As for thte Jiffy Lube analogy, what happened with your client would be the equivalent of Jiffy Lube accidentally leaving a bottle of oil in your car. If Jiffy Lube later found out what happened, I doubt they would expect you to bring it back.

[JoeyBryant]

Joey,

 

I wrote that "you don't want the client to feel you're nickel and diming him" (added emphasis.) I don't think most clients know how much lube costs, and so they think their time --to find an opaque package so reception can't see what's inside, wrap it up, and bring it to reception-- is more valuable than the lube.

 

I lose stuff all the time, so I sympathize. Losing disposable items (condoms, lube, supplies, etc.) seems like a cost of doing business in most service industries. That's why I recommended using 2 oz bottles, so you don't lose much.

 

As for thte Jiffy Lube analogy, what happened with your client would be the equivalent of Jiffy Lube accidentally leaving a bottle of oil in your car. If Jiffy Lube later found out what happened, I doubt they would expect you to bring it back.

 

Whatever, screw that analogy. It's the best I could think of at that time lol. But I mentioned a better one above. The photographer (a freelancer) leaving a prop (they often come to hotels/homes). They're going to ask for it back.

 

Again, IT'S NOT MAKING SOMEONE FEEL NICKLE AND DIMED. Let's just discard that phrase because it's baseless and politically incorrect to what I'm discussing. The whole receptionist thing is optional. It often doesn't take long to notice an item was left. I also disagree that clients don't know how much lube costs. I had a client who had a similar bottle of Swiss Navy (at his place) and he said, "it costs $60 but it lasts a LONG TIME".

[JoeyBryant]

What should concern you more is the fact that if the client really enjoyed your session together and wanted to see you again, he would have taken the extra step and contacted you about the lube.

 

This client has seen me 3 times thus far, Just for your information. So yes, he did enjoy the session. Secondly, we did touch base about it (I was very discreet about it, and simply mentioned I may have left an item at his 'office' as he's a lawyer)...however, he says he did not see it. So, it may have rolled off and under the bed without our knowledge.

 

If that happens I'd throw it away.

 

If an escort left a bottle of lube in my room, I'd throw it in the trash and not think twice about it. It's a routine business expense. Get over it

 

It's routine WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. Not to be thrown in the trash, dumb ass(es). (Oops, now no one will ever hire me because I called a couple dumb asses dumb asses) A full $55 bottle of lube in the trash? If that happened and I was informed about it, that would go on the next appointment bill, and YOU would be paying me back for it.

 

+1 - and yet another reason not to be interested in this escort.

 

How about not injecting your own personal prejudices onto others, especially when you've never met me before.

[lerbut23]

I am convinced that you are just trolling on this board. You really just don't get it!

 

Your presence on this board is bad for your business.

[+ FreshFluff]

Again, IT'S NOT MAKING SOMEONE FEEL NICKLE AND DIMED. Let's just discard that phrase because it's baseless and politically incorrect to what I'm discussing. The whole receptionist thing is optional. It often doesn't take long to notice an item was left. I also disagree that clients don't know how much lube costs. I had a client who had a similar bottle of Swiss Navy (at his place) and he said, "it costs $60 but it lasts a LONG TIME".

 

If they only notice you've left the lube the next morning when they're checking it out, giving it to reception (with the attendant hassles) is the only way to go. Even if they're staying in the room another day, the time they spend in their hotel room may be devoted to business calls, meeting preparation, relaxation after a long day, or even seeing another escort; mhaving someone come to their door and pick something would interrupt those activities.

 

It's frustrating to lose a $50 item. But in the service business, the customer is usually king.

[JoeyBryant]

If they only notice you've left the lube the next morning when they're checking it out, giving it to reception (with the attendant hassles) is the only way to go. Even if they're staying in the room another day, the time they spend in their hotel room may be devoted to business calls, meeting preparation, relaxation after a long day, or even seeing another escort; mhaving someone come to their door and pick something would interrupt those activities.

 

It's frustrating to lose a $50 item. But in the service business, the customer is usually king.

 

I didn't say the customer wasn't king. It doesn't make it any less just because he either holds onto or makes arrangement for a forgotten item. Hotels also have a lost and found area as well. Again, it's not going out of someone's way to do any of the stuff I'm asking. It's really not. They can do all of that, and still ensure an item is returned.

 

I am convinced that you are just trolling on this board. You really just don't get it!

 

Your presence on this board is bad for your business.

 

How about you just mind your business? You're trolling by even speaking to me right now in the tone that you are. You have nothing useful to contribute here, so just bugger off.

[kevininsa]

OK, I don't see what all the negatively is about. Who are you to tell me how I should respond to someone about something I paid for?

 

Uh, you started this post asking for feedback. Then you don't like the feedback.

 

I am convinced that you are just trolling on this board. You really just don't get it!

Your presence on this board is bad for your business.

 

lerbut is right. You really don't get it. Your whining is a huge turn-off. As evidenced by some of the replies. It's why I never hired you when you lived in my city. It's fine to vent a problem now and then, especially when looking for constructive feedback. But you don't vent. You whine and then don't like the responses.

[rvwnsd]

I was thinking of taking it a step further and charge admission to see the exhibit. Hey, if they can have a sex museum in Copenhagen, why can I have a museum of escort memorabilia that I've acquired? There are bound to be all sorts of folks curious about this very topic. That way I could also consider my escort visits a business expense and claim a tax deduction. It might even bring me out of my hiring slump. . .-in the interest of keeping the exhibit current. Don't worry, guys, I'll be very discreet about this and only use initials for identification purposes. That way, only those who are truly in the know will understand.

 

The Convention and Visitor's Bureau might even contribute some marketing dollars.

[JoeyBryant]

lerbut is right. You really don't get it. Your whining is a huge turn-off. As evidenced by some of the replies. It's why I never hired you when you lived in my city. It's fine to vent a problem now and then, especially when looking for constructive feedback. But you don't vent. You whine and then don't like the responses.

 

I don't care. You and your city can go bask in the oppressive heat all day for all I care. You didn't hire me because you would have never hired me anyway. Besides, you probably did hire me, but because I don't know who you are from adam...you pretend you didn't.

[jimboivyo]

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” --- Mark Twain

[adriano46]

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” --- Mark Twain

 

Exactly - time to shut down this Joey rant, (sigh) yet again.

[Epigonos]

Ok EVERYBODY maybe it's time to order in some pizza. Please arrange to have mine with anchovy. Thanks

[+ nycman]

Mushrooms with pepperoni!

[DougLA]

If Andrew Justice left condoms at my place I'd either save them for the next time or sell them on eBay. They'd probably fetch a good price!

[actor61]

This client has seen me 3 times thus far, Just for your information. So yes, he did enjoy the session. Secondly, we did touch base about it (I was very discreet about it, and simply mentioned I may have left an item at his 'office' as he's a lawyer)...however, he says he did not see it. So, it may have rolled off and under the bed without our knowledge.

 

 

 

 

 

It's routine WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. Not to be thrown in the trash, dumb ass(es). (Oops, now no one will ever hire me because I called a couple dumb asses dumb asses) A full $55 bottle of lube in the trash? If that happened and I was informed about it, that would go on the next appointment bill, and YOU would be paying me back for it.

 

 

 

How about not injecting your own personal prejudices onto others, especially when you've never met me before.

 

If you keep posting these lengthy, stoooooooooopid justifications, you'll never have another client.

[Phil_musc]

Ok EVERYBODY maybe it's time to order in some pizza. Please arrange to have mine with anchovy. Thanks

 

Order enough for 2 - I'm in on the anchovies.

[instudiocity]

Ok EVERYBODY maybe it's time to order in some pizza. Please arrange to have mine with anchovy. Thanks

meh, we're probably in for a few more choruses of "AYE AM THE VICTIM" before that cute Domino's boy arrives...

[TruHart1]

If Andrew Justice left condoms at my place I'd either save them for the next time or sell them on eBay. They'd probably fetch a good price!

 

LOL DougLA! They weren’t used condoms. I doubt unused condoms in the package would fetch much more than retail, if that, on eBay, even if I claimed they were from Mr. Justice’s personal supply. Otherwise, I could buy cases of Magnums and sell a few with claims of them belonging to almost any well-endowed popular porn star!

 

TruHart1