Should I post a review?

[CT Dick]

Please, what do you think I should do?

 

I recently had a weak (but not bad) experience with an escort I found on this site. He shot 15 minutes into the session and was walking out the door after 25 minutes. At the time, I pointed this out but didn’t want to confront him in my hotel room about how poorly he performed. I sent him off with my standard reply that I had a good time. He asked me to post a review on this site.

 

When I got home a few days later, I called him and told him what I thought of the session. He started screaming at me about how I had lied when I said it was good and hung up. Hours later, he called back and said that we had been disconnected and what was I saying? As soon as I said something negative, he got abusive, again, and hung up. Since then, it has been on email.

 

He is threatening me with disclosure of my email, (I’m not worried if he published actual copies since I didn’t say anything significant but I’m sure they’ll be doctored.) and posting things about me on other sites, etc. And, he has my home phone number.

 

You readers should be warned about someone this unstable and poor at his job. Is it worth the abuse I’m sure I’ll suffer to review him?

 

Gratefully,

Dick

[jackhammer91406]

Buyer beware, but poster be on gurad.

 

CT,

You are the only one who can decide whether the abuse is worth the warning it will give to other "shoppers". I often fall on the side of informing the buyers and just have often been censured (and censored) but, IMHO, that is one of the purposes of this site. If you try to instruct the readership through a thread like this, it will likely get edited to a degree. If you post a review, it will run pretty much as written but the escort has rebuttal rights. Will the benefit for other readers be worth the bother, only you can decide. I would only add that the phrase "honest in our judgements and truthful on our reporting" is a concept that should be carried throughout the site by posters and moderators alike.

Good luck.

 

[jackhammer91406]

RE: Buyer beware, but poster be on guard..

 

Also, never underestimate the value of proofreading....

 

x(

[Guest alanm]

RE: Buyer beware, but poster be on guard..

 

I had a somewhat similar experience only the guy worked for an escort service. It took me 24 hours of thinking before I called the escort service to complain. They readily accepted my complaint and gave me half off the next session. (The agency had received other complaints according to the next escort whom I hired with my half off).

 

Your situation is different in that the escort seems certain to get back at you in some way when you post a review, if only strongly disputing your claim on this site and perhaps making up things about you. If he did it to you, he's behaved the same with other guys.

My recommendation is to post the review. I remember those 24 hours of indecision on my part as being awful; you need to post the negative review and do not look back.

[LovesYng]

RE: Buyer beware, but poster be on guard..

 

Dick if I was you I would post the review. I had escorts threaten me before and my answer was go ahead. I even had problems in my hotel room but I got brass balls, I have called the cops and hotel security with escorts visiting me at hotels, they sure do leave fast after I hang up.

 

Yes he may doctor your E mail but my feelings is your a long time poster on here and I would believe you before him.

 

As for him having your phone number if he kept calling and threating you (On some phone companies) there is call trace and let your phone company go after him. In the long run I would not be worried, but that's me.

 

Good luck and keep us posted.

 

When in doubt I whip it out:+

[Guest OralBtm4Top]

RE: Buyer beware, but poster be on guard..

 

Dick, you have allot of credibility on this board and I'm sure your word, either in a review or just a quick message post, will be listened to. After all, as stated above, the purpose of this site is to communicate escort experiences from all points of view. Having said that, only you can decide if it's worth it to you to post. I must say, I'd love to know who it is. I've found that when I pay attention to the reviews of long standing posters I make better decisions when hiring. I hope you post a review.

[Guest ncm2169]

CT, normally I'd say go ahead and write the Review. If he's as unstable/abusive as you say, his response will probably be in the same vein. With multiple Reviews under your belt (as it were }( ), you'll have far more credibility. :o

 

However, I have no idea how I'd handle the home phone number deal, if the SOB tried to post it on the net. That could be a very dicey proposition indeed. x(

 

Bottom line -- if you can get around/past the home number problem, by all means write the Review!

[Guest Utopia]

Dick you have been around long enough to know this is a much asked and loaded question. If you normally write reviews (I am not sure if you do or don't) then write the review as factual as you can be. Leave the emotion out of it. I would not allow the escort to hold me hostage. Phone numbers can be changed as well as email addresses.

 

People there is/was a section on this site where escorts could warn each other about bad / problem clients. They had no problems doing so from what I've been told. Why are you all so hesitant to warn fellow clients about a bad / problem escort? If you're being honest then write the review.

 

On a personal note I'm sad that you ended up with such a mini-nightmare. While I haven't met you your posts reflect a measured, caring guy. I enjoy your posts and find some informative. I hope all works out for you in the end.

[Will]

This is one of those cases in which what you should do seems "obvious" until I begin to imagine myself in your shoes. Then I don't know.

 

I do know a couple of facts, however. First, you are a long-time and highly respected member of this board; there's no reason why anyone should doubt your integrity or the truth of what you say, whether in a review or in a post. Second, the whole purpose of this site is to provide a place where potential clients can read reviews of escorts, written by people who are assumed to be telling the truth.

 

So maybe you could answer your own question by asking another one first: Would you have hired this escort if someone had posted a review describing the kind of experience you had with him? If the answer is "no," then why would you want someone else to put himself in similar circumstances?

 

Someone else has already pointed out that you can change telephone numbers and e-mail addresses. You can also call the cops. Frankly, I very much hope that you will publish the review; and if his "rebuttal" is untruthful or abusive, you have the Message Center as a place where you can set the record straight. I think it's extremely likely that we'll believe you before we believe this escort.

 

I'm so sorry you had this awful experience. It sounds scary as well as other unpleasant things.

[Pierce_NYC]

>Please, what do you think I should do?

 

>I sent him off with my

>standard reply that I had a good time. He asked me to post a

>review on this site.

 

Dick, The escort left your hotel room thinking that you "had a good time". There is absolutely no way he could have known that this was your "standard reply". The sesson was so good that he even asked you to write a review... Ok, you lied to the escort and then called him up to retract your statement. However, if you had told him the truth at the start "maybe" he would have reacted differently. He might have said he had a bad day, or sorry, I'll make it up the next time, or I won't charge you, etc.. You didn't give him that opportunity, you told him you had a "good time" and would write a review. Sounds like he left happy! ... I guess you also told him you write reviews on this site. Otherwise, why would he ask for one.

 

There is deception here and the escort reacted poorly when you changed your account of the experience. IMHO, you are both at fault and I won't write a review. I'd chalk it up as a learning experience. Next time, if your session is not up to your satisfaction, tell the escort when he's there and perhaps he can do something about it. Don't think he can read your mind.

 

An "Escort Review" tells about an encounter. What you want to talk about is his phone manners a day later. Question: How was his attitude during the session? and, What have you learned from this experience? Perhaps your review should be entitled "Being upfront and honest with an escort".

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

To Review Or Not To Review

 

>I recently had a weak (but not bad) experience with an escort

>I found on this site. He shot 15 minutes into the session and

>was walking out the door after 25 minutes. At the time, I

>pointed this out but didn’t want to confront him in my hotel

>room about how poorly he performed. I sent him off with my

>standard reply that I had a good time. He asked me to post a

>review on this site.

 

A couple of thoughts:

 

You stated that you pointed this out. Again, as I mentioned in another post, when clients hire me for an hour, unless THEY want me to leave, they have paid for a full hour, not my orgasm (or theirs). I recently went to see a client for the second time and in both instances, this gentlemen came. I offered him, this second time, to stay while he recuperated, so we could spend more time time together. We ended up just talking, although the first time this happened, we did have sex a second time and the session lasted more than an hour.

 

This most recent time, it was late and we mutually agreed to call it a night.

 

In your case, you do not disclose whether or not you came, the time of day, or some other crucial details. On the escort's behalf, all clients need to understand that we are only human and are not machines. If the escort came and you did as well and he neither offered to say for the full session (to cuddle, to kiss, to talk or what have you) or you sent him home (or you consented when he asked if he should stay), then these are matters to disclose in a review as the escort will likely bring it up in any response he might offer.

 

 

>When I got home a few days later, I called him and told him

>what I thought of the session. He started screaming at me

>about how I had lied when I said it was good and hung up.

>Hours later, he called back and said that we had been

>disconnected and what was I saying? As soon as I said

>something negative, he got abusive, again, and hung up. Since

>then, it has been on email.

 

 

Part of the problem which has occurred in your story is that you initiated a telephone conversation with this gentlemen. Were I a client, I would have written a polite note and stated that I did not want to create an unpleasant confrontation, but I had not had the best experience and any review I would write would reflect that fact. This gives the escort the opportunity to write back and to offer to make up the session to you, either with free time or some other effect.

 

Were he still to respond with abuse and rudeness, when you recount this details, your hand would be strengthened. In this instance, his use (or your characterization of his statement) as stating you "lied" at the end of the session is not really far from accurate.

 

 

>You readers should be warned about someone this unstable and

>poor at his job. Is it worth the abuse I’m sure I’ll suffer

>to review him?

>

 

Should other clients be warned? Certainly. The abuse is not called for, irregardless of any other circumstances. However, everyone has bad days and I am sure any response by the escort will reflect such comments as well.

 

As the other clients have advised you, only you can decide if any potential adverse outcomes to you merit the potentially worthwhile beneficial information received from other clients by your review. I would strongly urge you to be as detailed and specific in your review and to write it (as all reviews should be written) from as objective and factual perspective as possible. In your own instance, as others have pointed out, you do have respect and credibility on your side.

 

As for your concerns, your ISP and your telephone company can protect you with respect to your private information. While it may be inconvenient to do so, you can and should contemplate changing your e-mail address and telephone number. This also give credence to those clients who have stated that they use a special e-mail address to initiate contact with escorts.

 

Finally, it is always regretable and unfortunate that you have had such a negative experience after the fact. Hopefully, your future encounters will be more positive as were some of your prior encounters. Unfortunately, not every escort is always able to handle all the matters surrounding this career choice with professionalism, common courtesy and dedication. However, given the opportunity to do so, I believe most escorts who are well reviewed on this site, will provide exemplary services.

 

Good luck to you.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

We Report, You Decide

 

If you post a review, it will run pretty much as

>written but the escort has rebuttal rights. Will the benefit

>for other readers be worth the bother, only you can decide.

>I would only add that the phrase "honest in our judgements and

>truthful on our reporting" is a concept that should be carried

>throughout the site by posters and moderators alike.

>Good luck.

 

 

Jackhammer, you know we have established a rapport so I offer this from the perspective of someone who has been on this site a few months longer than you and who has had an opportunity to meet with and discuss the site with some of the moderators.

 

As we all know, some clients have submitted favorable reviews of escorts and then written in and stated that the review was written by the escort or written with the escort looking over the client's shoulders. Hoo Boy cannot (nor should he) have to vet the veracity of every single review. He has (and has also put in place) some very good safeguards to limit both fake and false reviews. However, it is still the client's responsibility to be honest in their judgment.

 

By and far, the majority of the reviews, particularly the more recent reviews since the redesign of the review format, have reflected more stringent quality control measures from the end of the site but this cannot and is not a substitute for the judgment of the clients.

 

There is a world of a difference between the reviews and the Message Center. The Message Center has very clear rules, including the protection of personal information and the slandering of individuals.

 

If any client has anything negative to state about an escort and they want to name names or provide indentifying information, the place to do that is in a REVIEW. The Message Center is not a place for reviews, it is a place to discuss experiences, escorts, etc. By and large, the moderators work hard and with the help of other posters who alert them to problems, this site does reflect honest and truthfull commentary.

 

The MC is an appropriate place to discuss whether or not CTDICK should write a review under these circumstances. ONLY HE CAN DECIDE if he should or should NOT. The MC is NOT a place to REVIEW a client OR an escort in a specific and readily identifyable way.

[Pierce_NYC]

RE: We Report, You Decide

 

Franco, Have you ever heard the expression "keep it short and to point"? If so, could you try practicing it? Your messages just ramble on and on... BORING! :-(

[phage]

RE: We Report, You Decide

 

>The MC is an appropriate place to discuss whether or not

>CTDICK should write a review under these circumstances. ONLY

>HE CAN DECIDE if he should or should NOT. The MC is NOT a

>place to REVIEW a client OR an escort in a specific and

>readily identifyable way.

 

You are totally full of shit. Escorts are discussed here in readily identifiable ways ALL THE TIME. There is an entire forum dedicated to discussing escorts and it says nothing about only discussing them in a general way where no one can identify them. In fact the rules specifically refer to “real names” and an escort stage name does not constitute “personal data”.

 

Apparently it’s all great as long as the talk is the complementary prattle of sycophants, but any criticism, no matter how credible the source, just shouldn’t be discussed. Complete and total bullshit.

[+ deej]

It's always tough knowing what to do here.

 

In your shoes, I would post a review but ONLY if I could write it and be completely dispassionate. Leave emotions at the door. Tell what happened with surgical accuracy. Just the facts. No more, no less.

 

Do not let emotion into the review, and make sure every fact is stated exactly and clearly. Any slip on your part leaves wiggle room for the escort in his rebuttal.

 

The encounter was clearly sub-standard in your eyes. You should report it in a review that is "Honest in our judgement". We've had a couple of situations recently when a well-respected poster reported a sub-standard situation only to find out that the facts just don't hold water.

 

If your facts hold water, post the review knowing full well that the escort can rebut, and don't worry about the rebuttal. There is no defense for honesty.

 

If there are follow-on issues, you know how hard we work to keep personal information off of this board. We can't say what might happen on other boards, but here your information is safe. As is your escort's.

 

If we start holding back information, we negate the value of this site. But we have to make sure we're honest, even with ourselves.

[DavidGartner]

Hello,

 

I feel that an escort should perform from a professional stand point and if he cant uphold a session with respect then it should be noted.

 

He is obviously unstable, unprofessional and in the wrong business.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Practice Makes Perfect

 

>Have you ever heard

 

of the concept of changing the channel? Of picking up a book and deciding against reading it? Perhaps you heard of picking up an item at a grocery store but deciding not to go through with a purchase?

 

I take it someone was holding a gun to your head?

[+ bigjoey]

if the escort becomes abusive on this board in replies to your review, he will do nothing but destroy himself. the escorts who post here tell much about themselves in their posts.

 

several years ago, i posted an "OK" but not stelar review for sean, world escort. he went crazy here and i felt good he did not know who i was as the review was posted several weeks after the encounter. not only did he destroy himself here (actually, one of several occasions) but i got nice messages from several of the regular posters and one escort (the wonderful shamus) that they knew i was alright and he was a nut case.

 

go ahead and post your review but in fairness to the escort, do repost that you told him you had a good time so he had no feedback to do things differently. if he goes nuts, he will only be writing his own review and will be a message for all of us to stay away.

[jackhammer91406]

Deej,

You and the other moderators have a thankless job and do honorable work. I can count the number of times I have disagreed on one finger, and I am pretty sure I wasn't in the right on that one.

[jackhammer91406]

RE: We Report, You Decide

 

Franco,

My inclusion of the quote regarding fairness and truthfulness in NO WAY is meant to suggest that I think the site is anything other than that. It is a stated standard that should be followed by all. Please do not infer anything else. If I gave any different impression, sorry. As for you being on the site longer, I defer to your seniority. And as for the rapport thingie, well, to be continued.......

 

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[alanalt]

This is a tough one to answer because it really is a personal decision, but here are my thoughts,

 

While the escort has some cause to be concerned/upset (i.e. by your indicating that the encounter was 'good' right afterwards but allowing your misgivings to show later on, when the escort couldn't do anything to 'fix' the situation) his reaction (as you described it) is pretty over the top or unprofessional to say the least. So, if this hadn't come out in a previous review/reviews, then that's greater incentive to publish a review... As for credibility, I can only echo other posters in that you have a 'good' reputation and that I've seen at least one (and possibly more) of the escorts you have reviewed and agree with your assessment...

 

I can also only echo the comment that's been made that if you do proceed with a review that you recount the events as dispassionately and accurately as possible. As clients, most of us are aware of the chemistry issue and that some escorts and some encounters 'click' better than others. As a reviewer, I try to stick to the basics, did the escort look/act/perform as advertised? Are there any issues I can alert potential clients to? Is the escort targeting a particular niche/market and did he meet my needs? It's tough, 'cause I'm currently writing a review for an escort who was 'okay' in my book, but might really rock someone else's world (and it's a first review too )

 

As to whether you should write or not, I'm not going to go there, because you're the one who has to make the decision and live with the consequences. It sounds like you've considered all those potential consequences, however, so it's up to you as to whether you want to go through, or not.

 

Another long-winded answer, brought to you by...

 

Alan

[+ glutes]

Well CT, I have also (just tonite) had a troubling experience with a escort reviewed here. The escort was not as 'unstable' as yours, but the red flags were raised like it was May Day.

How do fellow MCr's warn others without compromising their status here, or their personal safety for that matter??

[adriano46]

CT,

 

I am sorry to hear about what happened and would not want to be in your shoes on this.

 

I have written good and bad reviews in the past on escorts and in only one case was a negative review followed by a series of abusive attacks. (One other negative review turned out to be just a lot of wrong signals on both our parts and the escort taking the time to write to me and explain everything upped my opinion of him 100%). I backed off on the abusive escort as the escort in question seemed (and still seems) to be overly (IMHO) rated here and was frightened off by the possibility of him revealing my name. In fact, after my bad experience with him I generally stopped reviewing people.

 

I have often looked to your reviews for advice on some escorts and have found that you have been honest and accurate. I also appreciate your comments here.

 

I'd follow the advice of others here - write the review dispassionately and succinctly (just a simple "Was the escorts good or whatever?" Answer, "No!" Done.

 

I do take some issue with others who say that you "lied" or were deceptive telling the escort that "everything's fine" or whatever once the encounter was over. I have been there before... Sometimes we say anything to just get the session over with. How often do we say, "I'm fine." when asked, "How are you?" and we don't mean it.

 

Personally I would not have contacted the escort after the fact (unless we had been together on a number of occasions) and would have just written the review. Period.

[CT Dick]

I did

 

Thanks to so many of you for your supportive comments.

 

I have considered your suggestions and submitted a review. I tried to make it factual and free of emotion. We'll see how I did.

 

Dick

[LovesYng]

RE: I did

 

>Thanks to so many of you for your supportive comments.

>

>I have considered your suggestions and submitted a review. I

>tried to make it factual and free of emotion. We'll see how I

>did.

 

Good job Dick, I know it was not easy to do but from me I'm glad you did

 

When in doubt I whip it out:+