Thank Yous

[Guest Starbuck]

Just wondering ...

 

(1.) approximately what percentage of the time you receive a THANK YOU call, text or email from an escort you've just seen -- OR --

 

(2.) get a RECIPROCAL THANK YOU if you've called, texted or emailed to thank them for a nice time together -- AND --

 

(3.) does hearing or not hearing from them after-the-fact influence your interest in hiring the same guy again?

[rvwnsd]

Just wondering ...

 

(1.) approximately what percentage of the time you receive a THANK YOU call, text or email from an escort you've just seen

approximately 20%

(2.) get a RECIPROCAL THANK YOU if you've called, texted or emailed to thank them for a nice time together

approximately 90%

(3.) does hearing or not hearing from them after-the-fact influence your interest in hiring the same guy again?

a little bit, but not much

[+ purplekow]

Well I would say about 20% reach out to me. About 50% respond if I reach out the them. It does influence my hiring in that I feel they are making an effort to keep the interaction more than just business even if that is how they do business.

Recently had a great time with a well reviewed escort in his area. He suggested he would be in my area and that we should get together again. We tentatively pencilled in a date. He contacted me several times right after, but now, a week later, no response to phone call, text nor e mail. So i guess the appointment is off for Sunday. Even if he calls, I will probably cancel it as I have expended too much effort for the encounter.

[elliotpierce]

I always send out the "Thank You" text. It's courteous, well-mannered, and it shows that you were actually interested in the time spent together as opposed to just "making them happy for money." I typically have a blast with my clients, and will end up having just as good a time as they are. Don't take this as me trying to market myself or anything; not my intention. I just think it's polite and respectful to extend thanks, in my personal opinion of course.

[adriano46]

(1.) approximately what percentage of the time you receive a THANK YOU call, text or email from an escort you've just seen

About 80% of the time

 

(2.) get a RECIPROCAL THANK YOU if you've called, texted or emailed to thank them for a nice time together

Oddly enough, 100% of the time. I cannot ever remember not getting the reciprocal thank you, and within minutes.

 

(3.) does hearing or not hearing from them after-the-fact influence your interest in hiring the same guy again?

It is not the main reason I would call for a 2nd (or more) appointment, but it does not hurt

[bigvalboy]

Good post Starbuck....

 

1) I receive a thank you about 90% of the time. Usually by text. It's often short, but sweet.

 

2) 100% of the time. I don't always reach out to escorts after a session, but when I do, they always respond.

 

3) I think it depends. If the session went really well, there was a connection and I tipped very generously, then not hearing from an escort would probably cause me not to rehire him. If on the other hand the session was just OK...and I felt that perhaps the escort hadn't totally invested himself into the session, or there was just a general lack of chemistry (it happens) then not hearing from them would be understandable and since I would not necessarily be expecting to rehire anyway, I wouldn't expect any thank you at that point, since most likely would not rehire anyway.

 

Escorting is a business like most others. It is or should be common courtesy to thank a client for their time, and show appreciation for the money, and the emotional investment that they have made.

[Michael Wayne]

the flip side: there are those clients who DO NOT want to be contacted (even a thank you message). They want to contact you. I know this is old school BUT in my mind it is a part of DISCRETION. What I do is this: when I finish a session with a new client I thank them warmly and kiss them, then I tell them that I will NOT be contacting them but that they should feel free to contact me 24/7 anytime and that my regulars and repeats are the heart of my biz. I tell them that if i see them in public i will NOT speak unless spoken to. Now, if a client is SINGLE and encourages me to contact them of course I will and I do but i learned at a very young age that many married clients dont tell you they are married do as the old saying says, " DISCRETION is the better part of valor." http://www.rentboy.com/magicmikey

[whipped guy]

1. Since I have learned to hire only quality guys I get a response from them 95 percent of the time.

 

2. Since I have been lucky in my hiring I usually send a thank you 95 percent of the time. I think it is important to do so. In my profession it certainly gives me a boost and makes me feel good when I am thanked for my services. Consequently, I ALWAYS send a thank you for a job well done. It is the simply right thing to do.

 

The fun part is trying to beat the escort to the punch. At times our messages even cross paths simultaneously.

 

ONE IMPORTANT POINT: Even if I have had less than a great time with a guy I still send a thank you if I know that he was trying his best and was really trying hard to please. After all, as I said, it makes one feel good when their efforts are appreciated and just because we might not have been perfectly compatible is no reason not to be appreciative. Plus it leaves the door open for the future... and sometimes adjustments based on familiarity can be made in subsequent sessions.

 

3. I can't remember when I did not hear from a guy post session. Oh yeah... I do... One occurred MANY years ago and it was one if the few really bad experiences that I had... Where the guy was a con artist... and there were a couple of others. In those cases I did not get or send a thank you and I felt that they were not worth the effort...

 

When you don't hear you usually don't want to return.

 

On a couple of occasions I did send NO THANK YOU notes to guys because they were late, rude, unprepared, obnoxious, argumentative, incompetent, etc. I felt it was important not to reward bad behavior and they never got any repeat business from me. They both also retired shortly after that. Perhaps they were burnt out.

[bigvalboy]

On a couple of occasions I did send NO THANK YOU notes to guys because they were late, rude, unprepared, obnoxious, argumentative, incompetent, etc. I felt it was important not to reward bad behavior and they never got any repeat business from me.

 

Interesting WG. What is in a NO THANK YOU note? Do you express your displeasure? You can pm if you prefer....

[Guest Starbuck]

The gap in escort-initiated THANK YOUS reported by the first responders to this thread vs. the much higher percentage reported by Adriano, Whipped and BVB puzzles me. Are the latter three men hiring guys who are inherently better-mannered? Or are they better clients? How to explain it?

 

What puzzles me EVEN MORE is that a client would EVER express his thanks and hear nothing back. So much has been written about the value of return customers; why would anyone overlook a chance to encourage that? After all, if the client has initiated an after-the-appointment communication, I think the escort has every right to assume it is safe to respond.

 

I appreciate Mikey's point about discretion--and the fact that he's explaining this to clients before they leave. He's expressing his thanks in person and then COMMUNICATING his approach to his clients. So that's okay; it's considerate. What I don't get is an all-out failure to communicate unless the escort just doesn't care about return business or referrals.

 

Despite my own very real need for discretion, I like Elliot's approach--to me, it feels like telling a client, "I'd be happy to see you again." I, for one, like to get that affirmation.

[elliotpierce]

There is that one client every so often that will give me the vibe that the ONLY contact we should have is during the appointment. And I'm okay with that, however, in that case I still thank them verbally before I/they leave.

[Guest countryboywny]

Don't take this as me trying to market myself or anything; not my intention. I just think it's polite and respectful to extend thanks, in my personal opinion of course.

 

Elliot,

Telling us how you handle your business and how you treat your customers is not "marketing" yourself to the board. You're still kind of new around these parts and these type of posts help us to learn about you. I also don't think "marketing" yourself is a bad thing. There are escorts here that continually self-promote themselves and never miss an opportunity to inject themselves into threads that aren't about them. I don't see that coming from you.

[elliotpierce]

CountryBoy,

I appreciate your post and clarification of self-promoting. I feel no need to self-promote as I have ads that do that for me. I just stated that in case perhaps someone took it the wrong way, as we all know how these threads can get sometimes. Once again, I appreciate your post, and with that said I want to say THANK YOU.

(See what I did there?)

[bigvalboy]

The gap in escort-initiated THANK YOUS reported by the first responders to this thread vs. the much higher percentage reported by Adriano, Whipped and BVB puzzles me. Are the latter three men hiring guys who are inherently better-mannered? Or are they better clients? How to explain it?

 

Well with me and as WG mentions, I only hire well reviewed guys, or those that have come highly recommended. All the escorts that I hire are all very very well known, and very professional. It is still not a guarantee Starbuck, but I think you increase your chances substantially of it being a successful hire. I have not hired him, but Chris Eisenhower is an example of a very professional escort. I would imagine that with Chris, some sort of 'thank you' would be exchanged regardless of the circumstances, and you would walk away feeling very appreciated.

 

 

What puzzles me EVEN MORE is that a client would EVER express his thanks and hear nothing back. So much has been written about the value of return customers; why would anyone overlook a chance to encourage that? After all, if the client has initiated an after-the-appointment communication, I think the escort has every right to assume it is safe to respond.

 

In fairness I think that there are circumstances where an escort might not respond. Perhaps the escort did not like the client for some reason, or he felt uncomfortable dealing with him. It might have gone far beyond just a lack of chemistry to the point where the escort just wants no further contact, and the client may not even be aware that there was a problem. Many clients see only what they want to see. There are an infinite number of reasons. I can remember one time where the session was incredible. I sent a nice thank you and also wanted to re-book, nothing, not a word. I was puzzled, so I sent another communication. Still nothing, finally months later, I ran into him in WEHO one night, he couldn't have been nicer. He told me that shortly before our session, he had met a new boyfriend, and he had decided to retire, and he had promised the new bf that he would not contact any of his former clients, once our appointment was finished. So I was the lasts person he saw as an escort. My point is that every situation can be vastly different. I just don't think that you can take any of this too seriously. For many escorts, it's just a business, nothing more. Sometimes escorts just pack up and move on the spur of the moment, and leave a city. So I am not really offended by a non-response, but I probably wouldn't re-hire that escort.

 

 

Despite my own very real need for discretion, I like Elliot's approach--to me, it feels like telling a client, "I'd be happy to see you again." I, for one, like to get that affirmation.

 

That is a very nice approach, and I think that you will find many escorts that will be very clear and let you know they had a great time, and yes it is nice to get that affirmation.

 

All of this Starbuck is a learning process. Hire good people, relax and enjoy the time you have with them.

[Guest Starbuck]

... In fairness I think that there are circumstances where an escort might not respond. Perhaps the escort did not like the client for some reason, or he felt uncomfortable dealing with him. It might have gone far beyond just a lack of chemistry to the point where the escort just wants no further contact, and the client may not even be aware that there was a problem. Many clients see only what they want to see.

 

Of course that's right ... I got a little one-sided in my perspective ... but, true enough, most of us have had experiences of consciously deciding to turn away business we didn't want.

[bigvalboy]

Of course that's right ... I got a little one-sided in my perspective ... but, true enough, most of us have had experiences of consciously deciding to turn away business we didn't want.

 

lol...On more than one occasion I turned clients, who I just couldn't deal with, over to another broker. Often they thought that we were getting along just fine, when in reality I was tearing my hair out, and not sleeping at night. (and yes I had hair in those days)....

[Bosguy]

I always send out the "Thank You" text. It's courteous, well-mannered, and it shows that you were actually interested in the time spent together as opposed to just "making them happy for money." I typically have a blast with my clients, and will end up having just as good a time as they are. Don't take this as me trying to market myself or anything; not my intention. I just think it's polite and respectful to extend thanks, in my personal opinion of course.

 

As countryboywny said, I don't feel this is at all an attempt to market yourself. You were properly informing the members how you handle this issue (which I agree with 100%). More importantly to me, it shows your MATURITY and SELF CONFIDENCE which is a major turn on for me and is a quality that clients, in my opinion, value for a remarkable time for both people.

 

Keep up the good work!!!!!

 

Boston Bill

[Phil_musc]

I have come to realize that this is more nuanced than I had thought. Earlier on, I said the service provider should do the thanking - he is, after all, the one receiving the money/financial benefit. A thank you email note or text seems appropriate. But now I see that many guys require more discretion in these dealings than I had thought, and the last thing they need or want is any kind of acknowledgment. It seems that Mikey's method is good, but then too so is Elliott's.

 

I have texted or called to express my thanks when I have been bowled over by the experience. Sometimes even when not so bowled over. If I don't receive an acknowledgment at that point, then I consider more carefully about a re-hire. I figure either my business isn't needed-appreciated-valued-whatever or else the guy couldn't really stomach my company again and is being subtle about telling me. Either way, it doesn't exactly do much for my sense of self-worth.

[Tighty]

1. 100% thank you text/email received! Granted I haven't hired much.

2. 0%. I never send thank you message. My business is thank you enough.

3. If I'm not that into him and I got a thank you note, I'd be more inclined to repeat. If I really really dig him ( have yet to find one) then I'd do a repeat even without thank you.

[Guest Starbuck]

I have texted or called to express my thanks when I have been bowled over by the experience. Sometimes even when not so bowled over. If I don't receive an acknowledgment at that point, then I consider more carefully about a re-hire. I figure either my business isn't needed-appreciated-valued-whatever or else the guy couldn't really stomach my company again and is being subtle about telling me. Either way, it doesn't exactly do much for my sense of self-worth.

 

I completely identify with this. I guess it's a matter of what each of us, as individuals, needs. Personally, an affirmation that I'd be welcome back means a lot to me. Today I got that from a man I was with on Wednesday. He emailed, in reply to a note from me, and said, "I totally enjoyed our time together and look forward to the next time!! I'd feel very happy if we had a date set?" What can I tell you--I'm only human--I loved hearing this!

[Guest Starbuck]

I never send thank you message. My business is thank you enough.

 

Not sure if this is at least half in jest. (Is that what the smiley face indicates?) I also haven't hired much (yet) but I guess I've been luckier. The gentlemen I've been with have earned and received my thanks, and I have given it gladly.

[Tighty]

Not sure if this is at least half in jest. (Is that what the smiley face indicates?) I also haven't hired much (yet) but I guess I've been luckier. The gentlemen I've been with have earned and received my thanks, and I have given it gladly.

 

Yeah, I love being silly online.

[cany10011]

I like the idea of a thank you, nice meeting you message after a good initial meet whether self-initiated or not. I usually send it the next day if the escort hasn't already sent it. If the encounter was just meh, then i don't even bother.

 

 

 

 

Not sure if this is at least half in jest. (Is that what the smiley face indicates?) I also haven't hired much (yet) but I guess I've been luckier. The gentlemen I've been with have earned and received my thanks, and I have given it gladly.

[whipped guy]

Interesting WG. What is in a NO THANK YOU note? Do you express your displeasure? You can pm if you prefer....

When an escort treats you disrespectfully in a variety of ways they need to be told. Even after expressing myself in person, I felt the need to express myself in a well crafted email that spelled things out specifically. I only have done this twice. One guy thanked me for the advice as he had no clue he was going anything wrong... like bring late, having coffee breath, thinking of only HIS pleasure. The other guy was an obnoxious SOB... and we argued via email for a day or so. BOTH are now retired.

[Steven_Draker]

Starbuck,

There was an excellent thread about "Thank-Yous" from a few years back. You may want to research it.

 

The most important thing you need to retain is that ...

 

Either way, it doesn't exactly do much for my sense of self-worth.