Flying in an Escort

[kbcool38]

New to the Form, and would like your thoughts on flying in an Escort.

I am thinking of flying in an Escort for a weekend, and would love some advice on what is normal.

Should I get the tickets, and how. should I pre-pay, any help would be great.

Thanks

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

kbcool38 - Welcome to the Forum.

 

I think this is a topic that you will get several different thoughts to this question.

 

In the past, I have paid for the tickets. Depending on the escort, he may be willing to share the necessary personal information needed to make a reservation these days. Or some airlines allow someone to hold a ticket for 24 hours without paying for it; the escort completes the on-line application, holds it, and forwards to me the information (confirmation number) needed to pay for the ticket.

 

Paying for the airfare is as far as I am comfortable going when bringing someone in. I've never prepaid an escort for his services.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

New to the Form, and would like your thoughts on flying in an Escort.

I am thinking of flying in an Escort for a weekend, and would love some advice on what is normal.

Should I get the tickets, and how. should I pre-pay, any help would be great.

Thanks

 

This assumes you have met the guy before or have had extensive conversation with him on the phone (not just via email or text). If not, seriously rethink your plans.

 

If this is someone new, make sure you're both clear on fees, expectations and travel times. Buy travel insurance, which is cheap. Have a backup plan if either of you get sick or have to change or cancel. I've flown to the Midwest five times this year and all five flights were either delayed or canceled. If they can take the train instead, consider it, since it's easy to rebook and a very easy and pleasant way to travel. Keep in mind that the more professionally you handle things from your end, the more comfortable he's going to be with the idea of coming to see you. If you have no idea what you're doing, shoot out tentative plans and expect him to hold time when you aren't sure yourself, it's not going to reflect well on you.

 

There are two basic ways to do it.

 

1) You handle it.

 

This means the escort has to be comfortable with giving you personal info. Again, you need to talk before scheduling anything. Check flight times and prices and have a general idea what it's going to cost you. If the escort insists on non-stops or first class or a particular airline or airport, it may cost you more. An escort may ask for a deposit to hold the time, or the purchase of the ticket may be enough to cement the date in his schedule. It depends on your interaction with each other, how much travel time is involved, and so on. If he asks you to prepay everything up front, you need to be absolutely sure he's consistently well-reviewed on this forum before sending anything.

 

2) He handles it.

 

This means the escort buys the ticket himself and you reimburse him. Sometimes he'll ask for the money before purchasing and sometimes after. Regardless, you're usually going to have to pay for the ticket before he shows up to your door. This means that if someone cancels, you're out the price of the ticket most likely. Ask what his refund policy is if HE cancels, and state what happens if YOU do, and get it in an email so both of you are clear. In fact, be sure to take some written notes about what the two of you have talked about, so you can refer back if necessary. Details can become muddled, and what he thought you said and what you thought you meant can be two very different things. At least one of you needs to be the collector of all the travel information, including times, dates, confirmation #s, flight #s and so on. Have it in one spot and that way if either of you need it, you know where it is.

 

I actually prefer doing things this way so I can get the miles and handle the cancels, changes and stuff from my end instead of having to depend on someone else to do it for me. I also think a good traveler is a smart traveler, and I would like to know how all of this works before jetting off to see someone... especially if the two of you end up traveling together at a future date.

 

Obviously the key to having someone come to you for an extended period is to make sure the two of you can handle it for that long of a period and have a good time. Ramp up to a weekend instead of starting off with one. If you have someone who agrees to meet with you and doesn't show any interest in taking the time to get to know you first... that's a huge red flag. Just imagine what Friday... and Friday night... and Saturday morning... and Saturday noon... and my GOD are you STILL here?

 

It can really be awesome or it can suck. Good luck.

[+ azdr0710]

wow, if Chris could run the world.......... excellent summary

 

my best advice is meet your guy ahead of time for a shorter get-together, talk about the plan, see if he is into it, get comfortable with each other....don't overplan every hour of the weekend and let your guy have a couple or three hours "off" per day to get personal chores/errands done.....

[JT Brooklyn]

New to the Form, and would like your thoughts on flying in an Escort.

I am thinking of flying in an Escort for a weekend, and would love some advice on what is normal.

Should I get the tickets, and how. should I pre-pay, any help would be great.

Thanks

 

There's many IF'S involved when Importing a "Working Guy" especially if you have not spent anytime with him!

 

Any disappointments should be chaulked up to Experience especially where the Finances of this Scenario are involved...

[bigvalboy]

wow, if Chris could run the world.......... excellent summary

 

Ditto...yes I agree it is excellent advice that Chris gives. I hope the OP is taking notes?

[down_to_business]

New to the Form, and would like your thoughts on flying in an Escort.

I am thinking of flying in an Escort for a weekend, and would love some advice on what is normal.

Should I get the tickets, and how. should I pre-pay, any help would be great.

Thanks

 

As someone who usually can't find someone who I am interested in in my local area, travel is often involved.

 

Like others stated, if possible to meet this person beforehand, that is preferred as several possibilities and different outcomes are possible. Some of the bad ones include not showing up, showing up looking nothing like the pictures of the person you hired, showing up looking like the pictures but not adhering to anything they posted in their ad and/or discussed with you prior to meeting, showing up as advertised and there is no chemistry or mutual attraction.

 

Different escorts have different requirements, but from my experience the standard (if there is one) is that you prepay his airfare and that serves as the "deposit".

 

My recommendations or suggestions:

1. NEVER pre-pay or send a deposit. At best you MIGHT get your deposit back if he cancels on you.

2. Book the airfare with miles or non-changeable, non-refundable so the escort can't cash in the ticket and run. Be prepared that he won't call, won't show up, and you will be out the price of the ticket.

3. If the escort won't allow you to book the ticket because they won't trust you with any personal information- think long and hard if you want to hire someone where trust is only a one-way street-- meaning you have to trust him but he won't trust you.

4. Do not hire anyone for a weekend that won't send you a clear face picture. This never ends well nor have I ever been pleasantly surprised.

 

I have had some amazing hires for overnights and weekends. I have also had escorts use the ticket and never contact me, several escorts never use the ticket at all, never call, and leave me waiting at the airport to pick them up; escorts show up that aren't the ones pictured in their ad; and a few that showed up that I wish never would have.

 

If you want to meet this guy so badly and you can't work it out-- consider traveling to them but ONLY if it is a place you can either find someone else last minute if you need to, or if it is a place you can enjoy yourself alone in case he cancels on you last minute or simply doesn't show up at all.

 

Once you meet and establish comfort, trust and mutual respect- then hire this person for the weekend at will and with relative confidence in your city, his city, or some new city altogether.

 

Good Luck

[kbcool38]

Thanks to all, for the Advice. Now Rethinking my plans, and taking a trip to NYC, I have the time, plus if things don't work out

there are lot's of other options for a great time.

Keith

[bigvalboy]

Thanks to all, for the Advice. Now Rethinking my plans, and taking a trip to NYC, I have the time, plus if things don't work out

there are lot's of other options for a great time.

 

Keith

 

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[Bart]

Hello

I have been hiring gentlemen for11 years this month. I have been bringing gentlemen in for longer stays for 9 years. 4 of Chris's Midwest visits which I believe is 6 times, have been to me.

I agree with most everything that has been said but I wanted you to hear from the client side plus and minus.

1. I live in an area that has zero gentlemen, therefore a quick meet and greet is not readily available. So try to have some email, text and always at least one phone conversation. Although I do live a couple of hours from Chicago and will visit gentlemen there and especially traveling gents.

2. Try to hire gentlemen who have had overnight reviews. I have met some great guys for 2-3 hour appts and then did an overnight and regretted it. Some gents are good short appts but excel at overnights. First time overnight DO NOT hire a person who has never traveled to a client. I am stunned in this day and age how many gents who have only travelled lightly or not at all are totally unprepared for the airport. You cannot control airlines or weather and sometimes stuff happens. But the gent can control how early he gets to airport so he can handle lines at security. I have had a gent miss his flight because he went to get a coffee and they closed the gate before he got back to the gate. I was not happy on that one. This is the one part of the experience that can be stressful for both parties so try to be calm, Chris and some other gents I have hired have had many a phone call while they are at the airport trying to reconfigure the trip. I also try to find out what the gent is doing the night before because I have had gents who are flying in from one place and turning around to see you. Never had a performance issue but I have had a gent miss flight to me because his flight home the day before was cancelled.

3. First time overnight I prefer buying the ticket which I send info and have him approve and also hotel info. I agree buy the cancellation insurance but note, once you buy a ticket it is lost money because ticket belongs to gent. After the first time like with Chris, I now send him the money to buy the ticket but I have another who works through a travel agent, yes they still exist, and charges my card. You have to have a comfort level with the gentleman to do this.

4. Also most would like the room prepaid before departure. They would like to know that worst case they have a room for the night. If you plan to have them stay with you, don't be surprised if they ask for a deposit to cover a hotel stay should you not show up.

5. Chris is absolutely right on length of first time stay, do one night first. If you have a weekend to enjoy playing consider two gents one for one night and one for another. If you are use to sleeping alone the simple act of having another person sleep with you can be very uncomfortable. Plan for snoring, constant bathroom issues (bring a spray or candle along and wipes). I amazed at how some gents are pigs in the bathroom while others are spotless. I prefer the spotless but be prepared. You can tell the seasoned travel at once. While they bring all their supplies they rarely over pack. If you plan to take the gent out be sure to tell him what the dining and entertainment plans are.

6. Discuss sleeping arrangements up front. If you have an expectation of sex during the "sleep" time state it but don't be surprised if you get push back on sex all night. I have found most prefer at least 6 hours, I myself always get at least 5-6 for an overnight and be considerate with what you eat at meals.

7. If you cancel, plan to pay a deposit the next time around. No matter how early in the game you cancel. If you are paying the ticket, most would like to see ticket with in a couple of days. Try to be flexible on the timing a bit, like giving a person a couple of options for the date and time is great. Try not to change the arrangements once set. I prefer picking up the gent myself from the airport especially a first time but if not plan to reimburse the taxi, really going to quibble over the $50 taxi when you are spending $1500-$2000 for the fee, hotel, airline and meals. Not the point to go cheap.

7. So to summarize. One night to start. Gentlemen with overnight reviews. Be definitive with information when contacting gent, they will be rather short with you if you don't have some definite plans in mind before contacting them. Gents like options so if you have a couple of times for airline and dates, all the better but show you did your homework before contacting them. Read some overnight reviews. Be open about what you are looking for and agenda for the gent after he arrives. Big difference for 12 hour overnight and a whole day, (more of what I do). Discuss sleep and/or sex time. Be patient and have ability to be contacted in case things don't go right. Just email or text sometimes does not cut it. Plan to available by phone/email/text they all have a place and I use all. Use email to confirm all pertinent information, you will be amazed how the verbal can be interpreted.

8. Its work but its rewarding, I have some great friendships and great sex out of this that I would never had had, if I did not try overnights. There is just something more relaxing about an extended stay that you do not get in a one-two hour appt. I have been burned a couple of times by gents who don't show up, believe it or not twice by guys I hired earlier but that does not happen much. Missing flights that has happened a lot and I gave up on overnights for awhile because I was having issues with carelessness on the part of gents missing flights, but Chris E., Andrew Justice, Ace Banner, Brad of Toronto, Alan Ladd have restored my faith that it was the quality of the person I was hiring that I needed to be more careful about. I have not had a bad overnight in nearly a year.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

Hello

I have been hiring gentlemen for11 years this month. I have been bringing gentlemen in for longer stays for 9 years. 4 of Chris's Midwest visits which I believe is 6 times, have been to me.

 

Oops. I never said I could count.

[Jake Walker]

I've never yet had the pleasure to meet Chris Eisenhower. But he gives an excellent, well thought out, and concise reply.

 

Also, Down_to_business makes an excellent point: If you've not met the person before, it's very helpful to him to prepay for the flight ... that is sufficient "deposit" that you're serious about the trip to have him come out to wherever you'd like him to meet you. But if you've met him before, and established a report, such a deposit might not be required.

 

I've flown out to meet many clients (as well as traveled across the world with some), both across the US and to Europe. If it's someone you've not met, then Chris is right, start out with just an overnight, or at most a weekend. That way it's a shorter test of whether your personalities blend well. I've been very lucky to have always gotten along quite well with everyone who has flown me out to meet them. But from the client's point of view, one should take care and stick to persons who are well-reviewed here on this site.

 

That said, if you've already met the escort before, and you have an idea of how well your personalities match, then by all means fly him out for a fun time together. I always make my own arrangements and get reimbursed later. I fly so much, I enjoy very high status with my airline, so even if I go on a trip with a client, I make the arrangements for us both, so that the airline bumps us both up to First Class for the price of just a coach ticket.

[Michael Wayne]

Lately I have been hearing HORROR stories from clients regarding fly ins. I would NEVER advance any money and or/deposit. Also agree upon a definite price. There is a scam artist out there now asking double the agreed on price. Just keep your guard up and dont be naive. There are some real good escorts out there but if the guy is not reviewed well here alot and is unknown here I would be VERY cautious. http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[Epigonos]

It is absolutely inconceivable to me that I would EVER advance money for a plane ticket or for a deposit on a get together to an escort I didn’t know. To do so is simply begging for trouble.

 

Now there are escorts that I have met socially but haven’t traveled with or flown out to me that I would, without the slightest hesitation, advance money. Two excellent examples are Chris Eisenhower and Ace Banner who I met last April in Palm Springs. I would not think twice about sending either of these guys money in advance. The interesting thing is that I would guess that neither of them would ask that I do so.

 

The big non-secret to having successful encounters with escorts is to stick to the well-reviewed top guys. These guys are not well reviewed for nothing – they are the pros.

[smendez1942]

The big non-secret to having successful encounters with escorts is to stick to the well-reviewed top guys. These guys are not well reviewed for nothing – they are the pros.

 

Right you are. This is the smartest thing anyone has said in this whole convo.

 

If you pick your dude wisely, flying him in can be fine. Just don't let the little head do all of the thinking and you will probably be golden.

[fosterchow]

My advice on fly-ins is to do your research carefully. The first fly-in I did was Benjamin Nicholas, and I flew him into Key West 8 or 9 years ago. We see each other all the time now. My second fly-in was SmallTownJohn, and I have been seeing him regularly ever since. Epigonos spells it exactly: "stick to the well-reviewed top guys." I never had met Benjamin before he came to Key West years ago for 3 or 4 days; nor had I met John when he came down for 3-4 days a couple of years later. I read the reviews, looked at the websites, sent each emails, and initiated a good correspondence. Top escorts are top for a very good reason; they come ready to please, and a good client responds with the same feeling. Relax, and enjoy yourself, and you and the escort will have a wonderful time together.

[Irtwo]

, so even if I go on a trip with a client, I make the arrangements for us both, so that the airline bumps us both up to First Class for the price of just a coach ticket.

 

Wow, that is quite a perk for the client!

[dcman]

I have done this a couple of times with an escort that I have had previous sessions with. The trust was there and he willingly gave me his legal name for the ticket. I paid with a credit card and the ticket in his name and emailed him the itinerary. We confirmed by phone and I picked him up at the airport upon arrival. It was easy and seamless but I would not do this with someone I did not know.

Maybe fly out to him first, so at least if he is a no show you can have a nice evening in a new town !!

Good luck with it. Keep it simple.