My waiter at Chili's today: cute and gay

[Guest boiworship08]

So, I had a business lunch at a Chili's in San Diego today and our waiter was a super- cute young guy. He put his hand on my shoulder when he left the check. My straight table, of course, was clueless. I am tempted to call that restaurant and ask for him and ask him if he'd like to go to dinner. Would that be bizarre?

[bigvalboy]

So, I had a business lunch at a Chili's in San Diego today and our waiter was a super- cute young guy. He put his hand on my shoulder when he left the check. My straight table, of course, was clueless. I am tempted to call that restaurant and ask for him and ask him if he'd like to go to dinner.Would that be bizarre?

 

 

Yes...That would be very bizarre. I have had many gay waiters touch me affectionately. Many times it is just to let me know that they are 'family' also. It does not mean that they want to go to dinner with you. I would go back and have a nice meal, flirt a little and leave a VERY nice tip, then return one more time and actually engage in conversation that is suggestive, and see where it goes...

[Guest boiworship08]

Sound advice, BVB! It IS nice to fantasize though.

[+ purplekow]

Yes...That would be very bizarre. I have had many gay waiters touch me affectionately. Many times it is just to let me know that they are 'family' also. It does not mean that they want to go to dinner with you. I would go back and have a nice meal, flirt a little and leave a VERY nice tip, then return one more time and actually engage in conversation that is suggestive, and see where it goes...

I would go back and forget the big tip you aren't trying to buy his affections. Be forthright and direct. I am very attracted to you and would you like to go out to dinner at a real restaurant, not Chili's.

[maninsoma]

I support that idea except for the reference to "real restaurant." That's sure to charm the pants of the guy: Where you work is beneath me, but I want you beneath me so I came back to see you.

 

I would go back and forget the big tip you aren't trying to buy his affections. Be forthright and direct. I am very attracted to you and would you like to go out to dinner at a real restaurant, not Chili's.

[+ azdr0710]

you like to go out to dinner at a real restaurant, not Chili's.

 

hey, they're right in the middle of a new remodeling project!!!....and you can get "dinner for two for $20" including an appetizer (No substitutions. Price does not include beverage or tax.).....

 

A strong, new color palette, bold artwork and wooden wall accents evoke our proud Southwestern heritage. Because, where we come from, tradition is everything.

[LouieD]

But, maybe he is trying to buy his affections... isn't that what this forum is about?

[Steven_Draker]

Depending oh his background ... not bizarre at all. Different cultures have different approaches as to body contact.

 

Was he latin or Italian?

[fedssocr1]

Sounds like you missed the chance to slip him your card. I like the idea of going back again. Of course then you have to hope you end up seated in his area.

 

I recall reading one of my favorite blogs a while back that is written by this college kid who calls himself a "cumdump" which is basically about as slutty as you could imagine. He told a story about just handing his number to a cute bus boy at Red Robin or one of those kind of places, and then their subsequent encounter in the guy's SUV. In his case it probably helps that he is young and hot. But being somewhat direct is probably not a bad strategy.

[instudiocity]

BVB, you cracked me up! A GAY WAITER? Isn't that redundant or at least ubiquitous? Well at least in LA it is.

 

Anyway, since you're a former Valley dweller, I was reminded of Sisley Italian Kitchen - Sherman Oaks

Every time I've been there, which is more on a monthly basis than daily... who ever the waiter is, male or female, they've repeatedly squatted down beside the table and stroked or patted my thigh from knee to crotch, multiple times: When ordering the wine; When ordering the meal; When checking back on the meal; When taking dessert orders; When ordering after dinner coffees, my thigh gets touched, LOVINGLY.

 

I LOVE THIS PLACE!

 

But don't ask me about the food, I'm totally distracted while I'm eating and always leave horny.

[bigvalboy]

BVB, you cracked me up! A GAY WAITER? Isn't that redundant or at least ubiquitous? Well at least in LA it is.

 

Anyway, since you're a former Valley dweller, I was reminded of Sisley Italian Kitchen - Sherman Oaks

Every time I've been there, which is more on a monthly basis than daily... who ever the waiter is, male or female, they've repeatedly squatted down beside the table and stroked or patted my thigh from knee to crotch, multiple times: When ordering the wine; When ordering the meal; When checking back on the meal; When taking dessert orders; When ordering after dinner coffees, my thigh gets touched, LOVINGLY.

 

I LOVE THIS PLACE!

 

But don't ask me about the food, I'm totally distracted while I'm eating and always leave horny.

 

Sisley's?...Wow..had to look that one up. Now I remember seeing it. Must have passed that corner 3 or 4 times a day, but it just never appealed to me. It just did not look inviting from the outside, since it sat among all the commercial property. Wish I had gone in though. Stroking my knee would have most definitely gotten the waiter a very nice tip, and my phone number.

 

Another forum member and I used to cruise waiters in WEHO, most notably was a cute Latin at "Club Eleven"...He was a master at flirting, I used to take notes. He scored almost every time. He danced that fine line of being charming without being pushy. I could never do it. lol

[instudiocity]

Sisley's?...Wow..had to look that one up. Now I remember seeing it. Must have passed that corner 3 or 4 times a day, but it just never appealed to me. It just did not look inviting from the outside, since it sat among all the commercial property. Wish I had gone in though. Stroking my knee would have most definitely gotten the waiter a very nice tip, and my phone number.

 

You should try it. I've only been in there for dinner. There's inexpensive valet parking in the parking deck just south of the restaurant and it's got a nice ambiance, good wine list and I do like the food almost as much as the cute waiters grabbing me. LOL!

 

But I wouldn't be surprised if the staff isn't trained to squat down and get on eye level or below as a part of a strategy to make the clientele more comfortable. I really do prefer that over having someone stand over me. And I absolutely DEspise service persons talking to the back of my head or from across the room. If what you're saying is so important, say it to my face - or kneel down in front of me! ROFL

[operalover21]

So, I had a business lunch at a Chili's in San Diego today and our waiter was a super- cute young guy. He put his hand on my shoulder when he left the check. My straight table, of course, was clueless. I am tempted to call that restaurant and ask for him and ask him if he'd like to go to dinner. Would that be bizarre?

 

I couldn't get past ... "I had a business lunch at Chili's .... "

[operalover21]

So, I had a business lunch at a Chili's in San Diego today and our waiter was a super- cute young guy. He put his hand on my shoulder when he left the check. My straight table, of course, was clueless. I am tempted to call that restaurant and ask for him and ask him if he'd like to go to dinner. Would that be bizarre?

 

And if you did, and I was his boss, and knew what happened, I'd fire him.

[instudiocity]

I couldn't get past ... "I had a business lunch at Chili's .... "

More drama from the soapoperaloverage2. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a business lunch at Chili's, unless, of course, your nose is so far up in the air that you can't get through the door. Get over yourself! ​

Originally Posted by avatar11 http://www.companyofmen.org/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png

So, I had a business lunch at a Chili's in San Diego today and our waiter was a super- cute young guy. He put his hand on my shoulder when he left the check. My straight table, of course, was clueless. I am tempted to call that restaurant and ask for him and ask him if he'd like to go to dinner. Would that be bizarre?

 

And if you did, and I was his boss, and knew what happened, I'd fire him.

But I agree with sol2 here. Making an acquaintance with someone while they are working is generally OK. Using the restaurant's resources (the phone and employee who answers it) and interrupting an employee for funny business is unacceptable. I don't know that it would be bizarre so much as wholly inappropriate.

 

Finally, avatar11, isn't it possible you took the flirt as more than a waiter trying to make lunch enjoyable? I'm certain some of those with whom you dined were aware that the waiter was gay and a flirt. They just had the decency to keep it to themselves. Something you may want to emulate.

[Strafe13]

Shocked that studio and operalover agree. But you'd really fire the waiter just because a customer with a crush called and asked for him? Seems really harsh to me. Unless there was something incredibly offensive or unprofessional that the waiter did (and I've heard nothing to indicate that so far) I can't see why it'd be okay to fire him. Even if the phone was such a precious resource that wasting it is punishable by termination, how is the waiter responsible for the customer's initiation of the call? I don't think there'd be anything wrong with the customer returning for another meal and passing along his contact info to the waiter. Just means more business for the restaurant. So long as the waiter conducts himself professionally (in either shutting the customer down or accepting the digits), then what's the big deal?

[instudiocity]

Shocked that studio and operalover agree. But you'd really fire the waiter just because a customer with a crush called and asked for him? ...

Strafe13, It's not that I'm agreeing with soapoperaloverage2. I just see the rules of business conduct being violated.

 

First, the waiter wasn't hired to answer the phone or date the patrons - haven't you ever heard of any business that has a No Personal Calls rule? Isn't there some requirement on the waiter to act professionally? So if some lecher calls for any of my employees, he's not getting through. And if he gets through and makes a date, my employee is engaging in risky behavior with a complete stranger. I refuse to involve my business in that dangerous behavior.

 

Second, businesses don't exist to facilitate the hook-ups of their employees, quite the opposite, businesses legally must provide a safe work environment for their employees. Do you not use a keycard/passcode to enter your business/office/workspace? That's a precaution to provide a safe work environment - securing the business property and protecting the employees from outsiders entering unescorted.

 

Third, a cute, gay waiter making a connection while serving a patron is far different than a patron stalking the cute, gay waiter at his work either by phone or returning repeatedly to the restaurant. I'm not saying you can't patronize the restaurant nor am I saying if a conversation occurs during the visit the waiter can't discreetly exchange contact info, but it's not business and that's what the waiter is supposed to be doing. And it's a huge risk to everyone involved.

 

Just today I heard a story from a friend who was escorting his girlfriend to and from her work at a cafe. There is a man who is always awaiting her arrival and following her out to the car when she leaves. The owner of the cafe refused to give a trespass warning to this guy and force him to quit loitering at the business because he was good for $1.25 coffee. After six months of hearing this verbal stalker making comments and the owner refusing to protect her, the girl is suing the business owner for failing to provide a safe work environment. Her lawyer offered to settle the suit for no less than $500,000. The business will probably go bankrupt and all because the business did not provide for a safe work environment.

[Frequentflier]

Shocked that studio and operalover agree. But you'd really fire the waiter just because a customer with a crush called and asked for him? Seems really harsh to me. Unless there was something incredibly offensive or unprofessional that the waiter did (and I've heard nothing to indicate that so far) I can't see why it'd be okay to fire him. Even if the phone was such a precious resource that wasting it is punishable by termination, how is the waiter responsible for the customer's initiation of the call? I don't think there'd be anything wrong with the customer returning for another meal and passing along his contact info to the waiter. Just means more business for the restaurant. So long as the waiter conducts himself professionally (in either shutting the customer down or accepting the digits), then what's the big deal?

 

I agree. I have managed a business with thousands of people for decades and it would take more to fire someone and unless the progressive discipline policies would suggest an oral or maybe written warning. Taking someone's job from them is an extreme event, certainly for the employee, and due to the cost of turnover often for the employer.

[operalover21]

Shocked that studio and operalover agree. But you'd really fire the waiter just because a customer with a crush called and asked for him? Seems really harsh to me. Unless there was something incredibly offensive or unprofessional that the waiter did (and I've heard nothing to indicate that so far) I can't see why it'd be okay to fire him. Even if the phone was such a precious resource that wasting it is punishable by termination, how is the waiter responsible for the customer's initiation of the call? I don't think there'd be anything wrong with the customer returning for another meal and passing along his contact info to the waiter. Just means more business for the restaurant. So long as the waiter conducts himself professionally (in either shutting the customer down or accepting the digits), then what's the big deal?

 

No, I'd fire the waiter if I knew he was touching my customers while he was working ... wasn't that clear?

[operalover21]

Strafe13, It's not that I'm agreeing with soapoperaloverage2. I just see the rules of business conduct being violated.

 

First, the waiter wasn't hired to answer the phone or date the patrons - haven't you ever heard of any business that has a No Personal Calls rule? Isn't there some requirement on the waiter to act professionally? So if some lecher calls for any of my employees, he's not getting through. And if he gets through and makes a date, my employee is engaging in risky behavior with a complete stranger. I refuse to involve my business in that dangerous behavior.

 

Second, businesses don't exist to facilitate the hook-ups of their employees, quite the opposite, businesses legally must provide a safe work environment for their employees. Do you not use a keycard/passcode to enter your business/office/workspace? That's a precaution to provide a safe work environment - securing the business property and protecting the employees from outsiders entering unescorted.

 

Third, a cute, gay waiter making a connection while serving a patron is far different than a patron stalking the cute, gay waiter at his work either by phone or returning repeatedly to the restaurant. I'm not saying you can't patronize the restaurant nor am I saying if a conversation occurs during the visit the waiter can't discreetly exchange contact info, but it's not business and that's what the waiter is supposed to be doing. And it's a huge risk to everyone involved.

 

Just today I heard a story from a friend who was escorting his girlfriend to and from her work at a cafe. There is a man who is always awaiting her arrival and following her out to the car when she leaves. The owner of the cafe refused to give a trespass warning to this guy and force him to quit loitering at the business because he was good for $1.25 coffee. After six months of hearing this verbal stalker making comments and the owner refusing to protect her, the girl is suing the business owner for failing to provide a safe work environment. Her lawyer offered to settle the suit for no less than $500,000. The business will probably go bankrupt and all because the business did not provide for a safe work environment.

 

You do realize that there is hardly anything that is as juvenile as taking someone's name or screenname and making some lame thing out of it, right? Just asking.

[instudiocity]

Yup.... happens to me all the time, InSpinCity...

 

You do realize that there is hardly anything that is as juvenile as taking someone's name or screenname and making some lame thing out of it, right? Just asking.

 

I do note that you seem to have calmed down from your childish tantrum regarding the business lunch in a Chili's Restaurant, though.

[instudiocity]

An interesting article about a Wal-Mart employee engaging in gay prostitution while on the job appeared in the news today.

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?93037-You-Can-Get-Anything-At-Wal-Mart

[operalover21]

Yup.... happens to me all the time, InSpinCity...

 

 

 

I do note that you seem to have calmed down from your childish tantrum regarding the business lunch in a Chili's Restaurant, though.

 

If you think that was a tantrum, I hope you never have kids.

[instudiocity]

If you think that was a tantrum, I hope you never have kids.

Yup, been there, done that, got the t-shirt and Father of the Year awards to prove it.

[Lookin]

I'm fairly sure we don't have any kids posting in the Message Center although we are blessed, from time to time, with some very credible impersonations. http://www.boytoy.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png

 

Of course, Daddy has his hands full as he attempts to moderate these occasional performances. http://www.boytoy.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

 

 

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