The Person behind the Escort

[Rick Munroe]

>Rick Munroe seems to me almost unique. I believe him

>when he says that he thoroughly enjoys most every client, that

>he does not expect or want each client to have a porn-star

>physique, and that he has found a wonderful marriage with a

>wonderful friend, co-worker and lover. How jealous I am of

>him.

 

After reading this, I'm jealous of me, too. Thanks, JS.

[woodlawn]

>But escorts are important, Woodlawn. The next time you need a

>hug, try calling a lawyer.

 

If I need a hug I certainly wouldn't call an escort. I'd prefer to get one from somebody who actually cares, not someone who is paid to pretend he cares.

[axebahia]

>If I need a hug I certainly wouldn't call an escort. I'd

>prefer to get one from somebody who actually cares, not

>someone who is paid to pretend he cares.

 

Do you ever hire escorts? I don't really understand your perspective on these issues. What are you looking for when you hire? And do you feel guilty and immoral when you do?

[Nvr2Thick]

Overall, I've enjoyed reading your post. It's often interesting to learn an escort's point of view. Based on what other escorts have shared with me I agree with Rick Munroe that these are your unique opinions, not a generalization about escorts. Escorts are like penises -- no two are alike.

 

 

>I

>mean i dont MIND my job, honestly i may not be sexually turned

>on 24/7 but what do u expect, for US escorts or at least most

>of us, we have so much sex compared to any normal person that

>honestly it takes more than the average person im SURE to

>really get turned on. its not like we are fresh and jus having

>our first experience. So please dont think when we have you

>as a client its something we are incredible turned on about.

 

True or not, I don't ever want to hear this from an escort. It kind of ruins the fantasy, don't you think?

 

Also (true or not) I've met escorts who say they get sexually turned on by really turning on an average guy. One of my favorite tops is an aging former circuit stud A-list beauty who says that the other "beautiful people" in the scene can get so jaded and take each other for granted. His clients are so much more excited by his looks, his dick, and his overall studliness that it makes the sex (he says) very worthwhile for him.

 

 

>WE as escorts WANT to become you in the fact that you

>have successful careers and lives. But we forget as escorts

>what it takes to get there, you have to go through schooling,

>and long years of promotion through work or hard work to make

>your business successful and i think that escorts and myself

>need to keep in check the hard work i have ahead after

>escorting, schooling and my finally my final career. To be

>like you the client able to be succesful and hire such a

>pricey service.

 

Maybe it's because I hire a lot of "older guys" but I tend to end up with escorts who retired from interesting careers to escorting, maybe to get out of the rat race, maybe to fulfil some fantasies, or maybe because they like the money. I also meet guys who sideline as escorts from regular jobs or successful consulting, again maybe for the sexual attention, money, thrill, or all or none of the above. I met one guy in LA who said he's just oversexed or sexually addicted and loves the "hot damn! I'm gonna get laid!" excitement of when his pager goes off.

 

 

>They are always fun and i

>love to cuddle with them casue i know thats what the desire

>and i love cuddling with them becasue i know they jus wanna

>feel love like every other person. Im glad young gay youth

>are making strong efforts for us in todays society as it makes

>it easier for young gays to come out and be loved by their

>parents, family and friends. I kinda get the feeling for our

>clients that this wasnt so easy, and they were always accepted

>in life, and sometimes i jus wanna hold them to maybe bring

>back some of the love they lost...

 

Maybe you should re-read this one. It sounds like you're saying "these guys are just so pathetic that I want to hug them." For me personally, I have sexual desires beyond my reach. I drive a normal car, but I rent a really cool convertible on vacation. I hook up with normal guys, but I hire awesome studs when I travel.

 

 

>I escort in the hopes of

>saving money and providing a future for myself so i myself may

>be able to help the young gay youth and to let them know that

>they are always loved and respected by the older gay

>generation for the progress they make in acceptance of gay

>people. So as you a client jus please respect my job and the

>reality of escorting. Thank you, I will not comment to

>critiques you may have as this is my voiced opinion. thank

>with love David Gartner xo

 

Good luck. I hope you have fun with escorting while you're doing it. I hope you retire if you find you're getting jaded.

[Bilbo]

And I'd rather get bailed out by a friend than a bail bondsman. And perhaps rather get hugged by a nanny, or a psychiatrist. If druthers were horses then beggars would ride.

[VaHawk]

Well, you read my mind axe! Great question, that I have wondered about myself! Now, will we get an honest answer or will everyone dance around the issue like on other threads?

[woodlawn]

>>If I need a hug I certainly wouldn't call an escort. I'd

>>prefer to get one from somebody who actually cares, not

>>someone who is paid to pretend he cares.

 

>Do you ever hire escorts? I don't really understand your

>perspective on these issues. What are you looking for when

>you hire? And do you feel guilty and immoral when you do?

 

You don't understand my perspective on these issues because unlike a lot of people who post here -- your friend jackhammer would be one example -- I don't get a charge out of talking about myself. Nor do I feel any obligation to answer questions about myself. Why would I?

 

To address your question in the only way I care to, let's say that I don't hire escorts to pretend that they care about me or find me desirable. Did you ever see the film version of "Svengali"? In that film the great hypnotist, having used his power to make a beautiful young woman into a great singer, decides to go even further. He compels her to say "I love you, Svengali, I love you." Then, realizing what a sham it is, he sighs and says, "It is only Svengali talking to himself." That's how I feel about paying an escort to pretend that he finds you desirable. You are really only talking to yourself.

 

I'm not too sure it's good for the escort either. Isn't that what the author of this thread means when he says that he has to stop escorting at some point because "you can't lose yourself"?

[axebahia]

>To address your question in the only way I care to, let's say

>that I don't hire escorts to pretend that they care about me

>or find me desirable.

 

OK, either do I. So you pay to have a release provided by an escort instead of doing it yourself. Where I think you lose many of us is with the idea that fantasy or illusion does not assist the release? I am having trouble imagining your encounter with an escort. Here's a try:

 

"E- Hi!

 

W- How Much?

 

E- $200.00

 

W- I'll give it to you when your done.

 

E- Fine, what do you wnt to do.

 

W- I want you to fuck me despite the fact that I disgust you, and I regard you as an immoral piece of shit, and feel the same about myself for hiring you, and hope some cop finds us and arrests us both for breaking the law and disturbing my neighbors.

 

E- Fine, on your knees.

 

W- Ooh, ah, ooh, ah, gulp, gulp, gulp. Here's your cash, and shut the door behind you."

 

Hey, if you can get off like that power to you, but some folks find that 1 hour of fantasy by both parties is a harmless way of transacing business. If you can relieve yourself in that mechanical way, why bother with hiring an escort? Save your cash, and find another message center to hang out in.

[woodlawn]

>I am having trouble imagining your

>encounter with an escort.

 

Based on your previous posts I am sure you have trouble imagining the thoughts or actions of anyone who is not exactly like you. Fortunately, however, the set of those who are not exactly like you includes most of the human race.

 

>and I regard you as an immoral piece of shit,

 

If I were asked to compile a list of people whom I consider "an immoral piece of shit," racists and anti-Semites like you would be a lot closer to the top of the list than any escort I have ever encountered.

 

>Save your

>cash, and find another message center to hang out in.

 

Ad rian, considering the fact that you have already had your access here inactivated by the management twice (so far) this year for posting things that other members consider repugnant, I find it more than a little ironic that you feel qualified to tell other people that they don't belong here. Isn't that like Charles Manson telling people to avoid violence? Yes, I think that's an appropriate analogy.

[Donnie]

>Ad rian, considering the fact that you have already had your

>access here inactivated by the management twice (so far) this

>year for posting things that other members consider repugnant,

>I find it more than a little ironic that you feel qualified to

>tell other people that they don't belong here.

 

What about the fact that you, woodlawn, have had to create multiple identities, starting with "regulation" and then becoming "spendlove", "pickwick", "seraph250", etc., because you sicken everyone here and needed those other aliases so you'd have at least one person to agree with you? You're the biggest loser here.

[woodlawn]

>needed those other aliases so

>you'd have at least one person to agree with you? You're the

>biggest loser here.

 

I suppose I could point out what a liar you are by pasting recent posts from veteran members like Bilbo, Huey and even Lucky agreeing with points made in my posts, but the hatred and contempt people here have for you is so general that it hardly seems worth the trouble. There's nothing (nothing negative) I could say about you that hasn't already been said by Franco, Hijnx and several others. If there is any poster (besides Ad rian) who lacks the standing to say that another's remarks are not welcome here, it's you.

[Donnie]

>veteran members like Bilbo, Huey and even

>Lucky agreeing with points made in my posts

 

Yes, Bilbo, Huey and Lucky are known as our most respected, intelligent, knowlegable posters here. Not!

 

>If there is any poster

> (besides Ad rian) who lacks the standing to say that another's

>remarks are not welcome here, it's you.

 

I never said your remarks weren't welcome. I said you're the biggest loser. The threads where pickwick agrees with spendlove (calling him "spendy"), and seraph250 agrees with woodlawn, and regulation agrees with etc., etc., are really really sad. You sad little creature.

[axebahia]

>I find it more than a little ironic that you feel qualified to

>tell other people that they don't belong here.

 

Stay if you want to, but if you repeatedly lecture escorts about their immorality, defend laws against prostitution and prosecution of escorts, and say that you reject the "fantasy" aspect of escorting, I am sure I am not alone in trying to figure out why you are here? Are you into S&M? Do you like punishing yourself?

[woodlawn]

>>veteran members like Bilbo, Huey and even

>>Lucky agreeing with points made in my posts

 

>Yes, Bilbo, Huey and Lucky are known as our most respected,

>intelligent, knowlegable posters here. Not!

 

The point is, you lied. I notice you don't disagree with that. And given that you lied, are you really the right person to be questioning the honesty of myself, BON or anyone else? Surely not.

 

>>If there is any poster

>> (besides Ad rian) who lacks the standing to say that

>another's

>>remarks are not welcome here, it's you.

 

>I never said your remarks weren't welcome. I said you're the

>biggest loser.

 

But you have called almost everyone here a "loser" at one time or another. So that makes me the king of the board, right? I suppose that's the closest you've ever come to paying anyone here a compliment.

 

>You sad little creature.

 

Don't joke with us, Donnie. We all know you're not capable of feeling sadness or any other emotion but hatred. That is so now, and will be so until the worms finally devour your corpse.

 

[Donnie]

If I'm wrong, then tell the class why you did create all those other handles, and why they have at one time or another "agreed" with each other's posts. And while you're at it, answer axebahia. He got you good and you know it.

[woodlawn]

>If I'm wrong, then tell the class why you did create all

>those other handles, and why they have at one time or another

>"agreed" with each other's posts. And while you're at it,

>answer axebahia. He got you good and you know it.

 

"If" you're wrong? But we've already demonstrated that you lied when you suggested no one else ever agrees with me. There is no "if." So if anyone is going to take BON or anyone else to task for dishonesty, it certainly shouldn't be an inveterate liar like you.

 

I don't think it will surprise anyone that you make common cause with a vicious anti-Semite like Ad rian, who got kicked off the board for suggesting the death of the Israeli astronaut in the recent space shuttle tragedy is something to celebrate. If there's anyone here as hateful as you, it's him.

 

As to whether he "got" me, all he did was demonstrate his own dishonesty and stupidity. I've never said there's anything wrong with hiring an escort to enact a fantasy. I merely gave my opinion of one particular fantasy that some people hire escorts to enact. Are you really too stupid to understand that? Or are you just lying again? And does anyone care?

 

[woodlawn]

>>I find it more than a little ironic that you feel qualified

>to

>>tell other people that they don't belong here.

 

>Stay if you want to,

 

As if I needed your permission? LOL!

 

>but if you repeatedly lecture escorts

>about their immorality,

 

I do what? I don't believe you can find a single post of mine in which I say that escorting is immoral. Try it. I'll just sit here humming the theme song from "Jeopardy" while we wait.

 

>defend laws against prostitution and

>prosecution of escorts,

 

Defend those things? When did I do that?

 

>and say that you reject the "fantasy"

>aspect of escorting,

 

Another lie. Or is it just that you're dyslexic? I thought the frequent spelling and grammar errors in your posts are because you're a poor typist, but I suppose it could be something else.

 

>I am sure I am not alone in trying to

>figure out why you are here? Are you into S&M? Do you like

>punishing yourself?

 

Try reading the explanation of the message center that is presented by the management here. If you're up to reading it, that is.

[+ Lucky]

Every once in a while Flower I should remind people that I, too, am a lawyer.:+

[Flower]

[Flower]

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] ooooops! x( That's the 2d time in 1 week I messed up--damn, I gotta get a grip:+ Anyway, I meant

 

;-)

[KY_TOP]

David I've been out of town the past week and just got to read your original post. As a client that hires a great deal. I appreciate your comments, the thought and honesty that you seemed to put in them. Many may agree or disagree with parts but you are obviously sincere in what you said and it does seem to add a new dimension to your personality here.

Take Care.