Does anyone hire an escort with an "average" build?

[operalover21]

Just fuck whoever gives you a boner and screw the definitions.

 

Absolutely. I doubt anyone will argue with that one

[operalover21]

My personal rules forbid me to express the preference: "Yes!"

 

May I delicately point out as a FFM (Full Figured Male) that in several countries I'm a prime catch... so take that you skinny runts!

 

(seems like Daddys having too much fun! Interview Friday! What's that gesture called where your hold your arm up at a 90 degree, make a fist and pull it down quickly?)

 

LOL. I forget "full figured." That's one of my favorite. Along with Chubby and Plump! Good luck on your interview.

[operalover21]

Stocky/beefy is this

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0cyn2IoET1rq6xvjo1_1280.jpg

 

In any real world, that guy is MUSCULAR, not stocky.

 

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kve3wypBTD1qzqq4no1_500.jpg

 

These guys are all athletic to muscular, just need a little toning.

 

Fat is this

 

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m746lxSC9x1r086yio1_500.jpg

 

http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/3004/646/299/005/Fat_Guy_Having_Trouble_At_The_Beach_1.jpg

 

Those guys are NOT fat. They are OBESE.

[Walker1]

I have seen guys like the first one who have never seen the inside of a gym. They are just naturally stocky/beefy whatevery. The second sets depends-in the gay world people can call the one on the far right fat.

[josephga]

Then there's the other category of guy Straight skinny Gay fat

[jgoo]

Personally, I love guys who are "phat"

[jjkrkwood]

Personally, I love guys who are "phat"

 

what about "Baby Phat" ???? :o:o

[operalover21]

For me a guy with a bit of a muffin top that can't bench more than his own weight would be about average. And yes, I would hire someone like that, but its obviously price contingent.

 

Average guys bench 50 lbs, not their own weight.

[+ Tom Isern]

boy did this otherwise interesting thread get highjacked! i'm with adriano46 on this one. one of the most basic lessons of sex, i believe, is that pleasure and fun in bed do not depend on your partner having a hot body. i've worked with and had sex with some of the hottest guys in the world, and some of them were duds in bed. and i've had sex with guys that i did not find at all sexually attractive, but had a fantastic time with them. i've learned from escorting a very important lesson: hot sex can, in fact, be completely de-coupled from desire and from romantic scripts. anyone who pays attention to escort reviews will also notice that conventionally "hot" guys are not always the best reviewed. and guys one might not find attractive are sometimes the best reviewed. there's more to sex than is dreamt of in some philosophies!

[operalover21]

boy did this otherwise interesting thread get highjacked! i'm with adriano46 on this one. one of the most basic lessons of sex, i believe, is that pleasure and fun in bed do not depend on your partner having a hot body. i've worked with and had sex with some of the hottest guys in the world, and some of them were duds in bed. and i've had sex with guys that i did not find at all sexually attractive, but had a fantastic time with them. i've learned from escorting a very important lesson: hot sex can, in fact, be completely de-coupled from desire and from romantic scripts. anyone who pays attention to escort reviews will also notice that conventionally "hot" guys are not always the best reviewed. and guys one might not find attractive are sometimes the best reviewed. there's more to sex than is dreamt of in some philosophies!

 

Oh, absolutely, 100% correct. As I explained, for me, hiring is about a fantasy and none of my fantasies involve sex with average guys even if they're the best fuckers/fuckees in the world. So I hope to get both wrapped up into one hot package!

[operalover21]

50 lbs is the bar. If you honestly think that the average male can only bench the bar...

 

I realize there's some subjectivity in the term average. That's why I said "for me," but I looked it up. Its actually closer to 150. And that's including men that are way past their prime. I can honestly say that in high school, there wasn't a single guy in my gym class that benched less than 90 lbs. Also, I looked up the average body fat percentage for a 21 year old American male, and as of a few years ago it was 15-19%, which would definitely mean a couple of extra inches on the waistline. Interesting to see such a varying perception of what is average.

 

No average guy can bench his own body weight. Not by a long shot. Sorry, this is getting rather silly. As I said, I think that some terms are being thrown around to make average and fat people feel better about themselves. It's like the year the fashion designers all changed the sizes of their dresses so women would think they were wearing a smaller size when they really weren't.

 

Most of what people here are describing as average, stocky, beefy are, in reality, muscular, strong, athletic guys.

 

You went to a high school where guys lifted weights in gym class? Really? I've never heard of that. Of course, I'm probably older than you but when I was in prep school there wasn't a weight to be seen anywhere in our gym class. It was just traditional sports. Period.

[jjkrkwood]

boy did this otherwise interesting thread get highjacked! i'm with adriano46 on this one. one of the most basic lessons of sex, i believe, is that pleasure and fun in bed do not depend on your partner having a hot body. i've worked with and had sex with some of the hottest guys in the world, and some of them were duds in bed. and i've had sex with guys that i did not find at all sexually attractive, but had a fantastic time with them. i've learned from escorting a very important lesson: hot sex can, in fact, be completely de-coupled from desire and from romantic scripts. anyone who pays attention to escort reviews will also notice that conventionally "hot" guys are not always the best reviewed. and guys one might not find attractive are sometimes the best reviewed. there's more to sex than is dreamt of in some philosophies!

 

I would Strongly have to disagree with you Tom, because for some the fantasy and "Visual" is almost as important, if not more so than the actual sex act. When I hire, I am less inclined to choose by face, and let the cock and body be my focus. It works for me. Running my hands over a heavily muscular body and feeling the rippling and flexing or the muscles can produce an orgasm in ME. Yes, of course it psychological, but thats where my head is at. Superficial perhaps, but thats why I am spending $300. I am not looking to get fucked, and dont care about some average guys "motion of the ocean". Dud in bed? Persay, what does THAT mean ??? Each guys experience and expectation is different, and part of the experience is being "turned on". If a smokin body does that for you, you've made it past Go.... nothing wrong with the "average" guy if that revs your motor, but for some of it, it dont cut the mustard !

[AdamSmith]

I am with Isern all the way on this one. I used to have particular fetishes -- they needed to be twink, or Asian, or then Latino -- but I finally got to where it is just the individual. If he (or she, in one or two cases I've documented here or There) is someone I can fall in love with for a day, a week, a month, a natural year ('that Faustus may repent and save his soul'!) then it sends me.

[+ Tom Isern]

I would Strongly have to disagree with you Tom, because for some the fantasy and "Visual" is almost as important, if not more so than the actual sex act. When I hire, I am less inclined to choose by face, and let the cock and body be my focus. It works for me. Running my hands over a heavily muscular body and feeling the rippling and flexing or the muscles can produce an orgasm in ME. Yes, of course it psychological, but thats where my head is at. Superficial perhaps, but thats why I am spending $300. I am not looking to get fucked, and dont care about some average guys "motion of the ocean". Dud in bed? Persay, what does THAT mean ??? Each guys experience and expectation is different, and part of the experience is being "turned on". If a smokin body does that for you, you've made it past Go.... nothing wrong with the "average" guy if that revs your motor, but for some of it, it dont cut the mustard !

 

not everyone is the same, jjkrkwood, and that's cool. and certainly most clients pay, at least in part, for the appearance/body/cock etc. of the escort. i get all that. that's really what fuels our industry and keeps me eating well and running off to the gym! the visual aspect can be more or less important to different folks. duds in bed? a guy who says he's a bottom but has no interest in sucking cock—or can only do it poorly, and then only wants to get fucked. someone who just lays there and wants to be pounded. someone who shows up dirty or with bad breath. someone who advertises as a "top" but shows up tweaked out of his mind and unable to perform (that's happened dozens of times with some of the hottest bodies on rentboy). one of the most important lessons that i have learned from escorting is that sex can be a lot of fun even sometimes when it is divorced from the conventionally "hot" appearance we conjure in our fantasies. and i can tell you this for a fact: when i go to rentboy to hire for groups for my clients, the hottest-bodied guys are seldom (i could here list the few exceptions to this rule!!) the most fun in the group, the best in bed, the most personable, etc.

[jjkrkwood]

not everyone is the same, jjkrkwood, and that's cool. and certainly most clients pay, at least in part, for the appearance/body/cock etc. of the escort. i get all that. that's really what fuels our industry and keeps me eating well and running off to the gym! the visual aspect can be more or less important to different folks. duds in bed? a guy who says he's a bottom but has no interest in sucking cock—or can only do it poorly, and then only wants to get fucked. someone who just lays there and wants to be pounded. someone who shows up dirty or with bad breath. someone who advertises as a "top" but shows up tweaked out of his mind and unable to perform (that's happened dozens of times with some of the hottest bodies on rentboy). one of the most important lessons that i have learned from escorting is that sex can be a lot of fun even sometimes when it is divorced from the conventionally "hot" appearance we conjure in our fantasies. and i can tell you this for a fact: when i go to rentboy to hire for groups for my clients, the hottest-bodied guys are seldom (i could here list the few exceptions to this rule!!) the most fun in the group, the best in bed, the most personable, etc.

 

Well we can certainly always make generalizations, and your experience surely qualifies you to do so. However, I believe it all depends on the person, not his assets, and as has been said to overkill, we all like Different things. and if we find what makes us happy and gets us off, there is no need for a debate....From my experience of over 45 years having sex, even Average can be bad in bed and have poor hygiene, and for ME, there is something about the cockiness and confidence of the "beauties" that is a turn-on. (so long as there is not an "arrogance" about it).

There is surely enough space on this planet to accommodate everyone !

[bigvalboy]

one of the most important lessons that i have learned from escorting is that sex can be a lot of fun even sometimes when it is divorced from the conventionally "hot" appearance we conjure in our fantasies. and i can tell you this for a fact: when i go to rentboy to hire for groups for my clients, the hottest-bodied guys are seldom (i could here list the few exceptions to this rule!!) the most fun in the group, the best in bed, the most personable, etc.

 

Well that was well said. I must say that I agree with you. Now I have my favorite type, make no mistake, however the one thing that I have learned also is exactly what you comment on. "Sex can be magic, and often is when we do divorce ourselves from the conventional fantasies". It took me a long time to realize that, and it took a few very talented escorts and masseurs to show me the other side of things. One of the most rewarding experiences I had all year with an escort had nothing to do with the sexual aspect of the hire. It was about being with him and interacting on a variety of levels.

[+ Axiom2001]

I've noticed more and more ads of guys who list their builds as "average." Does anyone hire someone with an "average" build? I'm curious what the reason would be.

 

When I hire a guy, I take dick size, height, deep kissing, and other factors into account. If a guy's average build looks good to me, I'll make arrangements to see him, for there is much more involved with me and my escorts besides a hot body!

[Str8boyluvr]

Yes, I do. The reason is that I'm turned on by normal guys more than I'm turned on by gym rats who spend more time looking pretty than a woman does.

 

Amen to that!

[Epigonos]

All during my 30’s and my 40’s I spent two to three hours a day, six days a week in a down-and-dirty bodybuilding gym. Most of the guys I worked out with, who were serious about bodybuilding, used steroids in one form or another as did I. A guy with a 48”-50” chest, 18”+ arms and a 30”-34” waist gave me a serious hardon then and still does today. I have stated on another thread that thought I do NOT require a face or a cock shot post on an escort’s ad, however, I do require a torso shot. I have never been a size queen as far as cock go – my motto has always been I’d rather move up on it rather than have to back away from it. I have, however, always readily admitted that I’m a dedicated “BODY FASCIST” and I do not lie - average bodies do absolutely NOTHING for me.

[adriano46]

Oddly I find guys with average to slightly athletic bodies very hot, but I have also had some amazingly scorching sex in Europe with very slim (almost starving) men from Eastern and Central Europe over 15 years ago -- one guy was so thin you could feel his pelvic bones, but once I got a meal into him, had him in a steaming HOT and soapy shower for about 30 minutes, and then put him under a huge down comforter, he was one of the most amazing guys I ever met -- the horse-size uncut dick helped.

 

Many of the guys I see repeatedly are ones with what I would consider average to athletic builds -- huge bodybuilders do nothing for me at all. I like a guy to be a bit softer in the butt and belly than absolutely rock-solid and taut. And... as some here know... I will forego most any body type if he has amazingly perky nipples on nice muscled pecs.

[Guy Fawkes]

You know what they call a SOB?

 

A man with a 10" tongue and a 6" cock, that only likes to fuck. It's all a matter of prospective. Give me that "Average" man every time.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

I live in Sydney, and as a gentlemen of size, I attract interest from a small group of men. When I go to Asia, I am overwhelmed by the interest, the chubby is a much desired partner.

I had requests for pics that were going to be used as jerk off porn, one special man got the approval to take them, my droopy tits, and full belly , and what to me is my fat ass.

Great for the ego. I expressed a desire to lose weight," he told me no way, I would marry you and feed you up." And he was of marriage potential, sexy, hot in bed, smart intelligent, articulate, financially independent.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I have seen surveys where woman say they have found men of average cock size better lovers, it seems well hung men think size is all they need to satisfy. I know that sometimes size matters .......

I cruised a hot guy once in NYC at the East Side Bathhouse, when he got his towel off smallest cock ever, and it wasn't a grower. but he was great in bed, and I would go back for more. Would not work for fucking with him as a Top, but there is lots of other ways to play.

I prefer a man who is skilled, than a man who looks awesome, of course the ideal would be both.

There are a few on this forum who would be both.

It always possible to close your eyes and fantasise about your fantasy, while you are being taken to orgasmic heights, harder to gaze at your fantasy body who cannot keep you hard, thru lack of sexual skills.

 

Hope everyone is climbing that orgasmic height with however you choose

[Newly]

It's great that we all have different tastes, otherwise there would only be a few escorts able to support themselves and a huge waiting list! In all honesty although I am not at all overweight (6'1" - 160 pounds) I kind of like guys who are a bit overweight - I find them comforting, masculine, and hot as hell. But I've also learned that it's rare to find a person you like who doesn't have attractive qualities. I was recently with an escort who is fairly short, very muscular, and short - all traits I thought I disliked. But he's an absolutely fantastic person and I soon found myself very attracted to those traits and enjoying the heck out of a highly muscled body. There are other qualities that don't jump out of an ad, a smile, a scent, a good heart - who knows what you'll click with. I guess all I'm saying is don't be so quick to set up "deal breakers". You may be surprised at what you're missing out on.