Marc Dylan--New Thread

[+ Gar1eth]

Not sure if I should post this or not, but...Marc has been advertising in Dallas for awhile. I had been wanting to meet and contacted him. He has his usual ad in Rentboy, but when I contacted him he said he was taking a break and was only doing massage in Dallas. While I respect his right to conduct business anyway he wants--from a client standpoint--it's disappointing to see an ad that describes full service--but then you find out for whatever reason it's not. I would have preferred he modify his ad--I wouldn't have even bothered him if I had known he was only doing massage.

 

The other thing was that he said being height weight proportionate was important to him. Unfortunately I'm a tub of .... If I were "hwp", then maybe I wouldn't be perusing a site like Rentboy, to find someone to relieve some tension--or G-d forbid maybe even have a boyfriend. So again--I understand his viewpoint--I wouldn't want to have sex with me. But if "hwp' is a prerequisite for him--as is his right, then I wish he would state that in his ad as others do--so I wouldn't have bothered him.

 

On the plus side he was very polite in his responses. So I guess that's something.

 

Gman

[Guest countryboywny]

I hear you, Gman. It's unfortunate that some guys don't get specific in their ads. I love the "hwp" thing.. maybe he's been hanging on Adam4Adam or Craigslist! LOL

[jimboivyo]

Not sure if I should post this or not, but...Marc has been advertising in Dallas for awhile. I had been wanting to meet and contacted him. He has his usual ad in Rentboy, but when I contacted him he said he was taking a break and was only doing massage in Dallas. While I respect his right to conduct business anyway he wants--from a client standpoint--it's disappointing to see an ad that describes full service--but then you find out for whatever reason it's not. I would have preferred he modify his ad--I wouldn't have even bothered him if I had known he was only doing massage.

 

The other thing was that he said being height weight proportionate was important to him. Unfortunately I'm a tub of .... If I were "hwp", then maybe I wouldn't be perusing a site like Rentboy, to find someone to relieve some tension--or G-d forbid maybe even have a boyfriend. So again--I understand his viewpoint--I wouldn't want to have sex with me. But if "hwp' is a prerequisite for him--as is his right, then I wish he would state that in his ad as others do--so I wouldn't have bothered him.

 

On the plus side he was very polite in his responses. So I guess that's something.

 

Gman

 

so you start a topic that you know will turn into a flame war over these minor quibbles. he made all of that clear up front, so why rehash in an attempt to make trouble? can't we folks just agree to disagree?

 

again, it's posts like this that keep more good escorts from posting here. they don't want to deal with the drama.

[adriano46]

Gar1eth - haven't seen you around for a while so great seeing you post now.

 

That said, personally (as mentioned on another thread), I always tell an escort up front that I am definitely NOT height-weight-proportionate (HWP) and then leave it up to HIM to answer or pass.

 

I have been posting here for well over a decade and in the past whenever an escort very candidly and honestly put in his ad any kind of "preference" (no heavy guys, no (fill in ethnic types), no fems, no bears or whatever... they were excoriated by clients on many levels. So many of them keep their "preferences" to themselves, but on the other side, I prefer they at least tell me up-front in our private communication what they prefer as they do not want to disappoint; some guys really cannot get it up (even with viagra) if they are with a guy who does turn him off, and so why make it worse and agree to see the client only to have the experience turn out badly (and affect the client's self-esteem)? I mean, come on guys, in all hoesty how do you feel when you hire a guy for $300 or whatever and he cannot keep it up or even provide the overrated BFE, only dry kisses or pecks you on the cheek, when up close his eyes are closed shut... you do not need to be a rocket scientist to know you are not doing a thing for him, and that affects the entire date. Ultimately it ends with a frustrated client writing a negative review of what would be seen as an impossible situation.

 

Marc D is no different than many escorts out there in knowing his limits and more being honest and up front with the client on why it may not be a good idea to hire him. When I consider hiring on the high end - Marc or other well-known porn actor or model - I know I am making a BIG risk on whether they want a guy overweight, overage, and out of shape and so in telling them "Hey, this is me!" we give them the ability to say YES or NO and should not be upset with the NO reply.

 

Not trying to be a Marc syncophant here but maybe guys we should/could cut him some slack? He provides more than enough of us here with a lot of pleasure in the world of fantasy and for the others who have had the chance to hire him, bravo and great!

[Guest verymarried]

Gman I like your post and your humility. "I wouldn't want to have sex with me." - Though I think he has every right to see who he wants, sounds like it is Mr. Dylan who is missing out rather than all the non-HWP clients who are refused his time. Humility and kindness are tremendous turn-ons to some, including me.

[Marc Dylan]

Not sure if I should post this or not, but...Marc has been advertising in Dallas for awhile. I had been wanting to meet and contacted him. He has his usual ad in Rentboy, but when I contacted him he said he was taking a break and was only doing massage in Dallas. While I respect his right to conduct business anyway he wants--from a client standpoint--it's disappointing to see an ad that describes full service--but then you find out for whatever reason it's not. I would have preferred he modify his ad--I wouldn't have even bothered him if I had known he was only doing massage.

 

The other thing was that he said being height weight proportionate was important to him. Unfortunately I'm a tub of .... If I were "hwp", then maybe I wouldn't be perusing a site like Rentboy, to find someone to relieve some tension--or G-d forbid maybe even have a boyfriend. So again--I understand his viewpoint--I wouldn't want to have sex with me. But if "hwp' is a prerequisite for him--as is his right, then I wish he would state that in his ad as others do--so I wouldn't have bothered him.

 

On the plus side he was very polite in his responses. So I guess that's something.

 

Gman

 

Hey there , hope you are doing well. Sorry for the trouble . My rent boy ad also mentions massage , after a busy month in NYC , then Dc , and Chicago im enjoying some more mild appointments but i still have to advertise for them so of course my rent boy ad will be up. I told you upfront when you texted or emailed thats all i was doing , so your talking about 2-3 minutes of wasted time hardly worth arguing over . Its not as if I had you come over and then said "oh hey Im just up for a massage" Now , if you are a "TUB" your words not mine , I would not be able to see you as an escorting client, just my preference, no reason in having you over if i cant show you a good time. Anyhoo , hope ya have a good day anyway

[+ Travis69]

Hey there , hope you are doing well. Sorry for the trouble . My rent boy ad also mentions massage , after a busy month in NYC , then Dc , and Chicago im enjoying some more mild appointments but i still have to advertise for them so of course my rent boy ad will be up. I told you upfront when you texted or emailed thats all i was doing , so your talking about 2-3 minutes of wasted time hardly worth arguing over . Its not as if I had you come over and then said "oh hey Im just up for a massage" Now , if you are a "TUB" your words not mine , I would not be able to see you as an escorting client, just my preference, no reason in having you over if i cant show you a good time. Anyhoo , hope ya have a good day anyway

 

Just wondering does the "HWP" requirement apply to massage appointments also and if so why? Just wondering.

[Marc Dylan]

Gman I like your post and your humility. "I wouldn't want to have sex with me." - Though I think he has every right to see who he wants, sounds like it is Mr. Dylan who is missing out rather than all the non-HWP clients who are refused his time. Humility and kindness are tremendous turn-ons to some, including me.

 

Hey there, first of all I am not missing out on anything . What good would it do me to see a client that I can not show a good time? It would be unfair to me and espcially the client. There are plenty of guys who hire that I am compatable with . I dont think it shows lack of humility or kindness to politley express a preference . Are you saying that when you pass one escort up for another because of looks that you are lacking in kindness and humility?

 

Judging someones worth as a person based on their Phyiscal stature would show lack of humility and kindness , that is something I never do. However the topic at hand is about having SEX with someone and making it a pleasurable experience for both parties, no one can deny physical attraction plays an important role in that, and I recognize the fact that Im not good at FAKING it so i openly admit that. I think it does show kindness to turn down money from someone knowing that we are not sexually compatable rather than taking it and them being left unhappy , or me having the mindset "oh they should be happy to even have met up with me." No it doesnt work like that for me , I want myself and the other person to leave feeling great about the time we spent together.

[Marc Dylan]

Just wondering does the "HWP" requirement apply to massage appointments also and if so why? Just wondering.

 

No of course not, I can give a great massage to anyone, but for more intimate encounters I do have a preference. Just to be clear im not expecting fitness models but just reasonably HWP, i think everyone is allowed a choice. I dont think its right to have someone come over and then close my eyes and go through the motions just to get through it. It will make the person feel bad and like they have waisted their money , and it will make me feel bad that i did something i wasnt comfortable with. I dont need the money, anything i make escorting is on top of an already very comfortable life so it makes no sense for me to lure someone in ,give them a mediocre experience and possibly make them feel bad just for a few bucks. Again thats just my outlook on it.

[Marc Dylan]

I hear you, Gman. It's unfortunate that some guys don't get specific in their ads. I love the "hwp" thing.. maybe he's been hanging on Adam4Adam or Craigslist! LOL

 

No, I dont hang out on either of those sites. First of all many guys are criticized for publicly expressing any particular requirement. Second I think it can be expressed more politely in a quick email exchange with a client . Third , many guys unjustly consider themselves overweight when its just a few extra pounds thats when the one on one discussion and exchange of a few brief stats becomes very helpful , much more than an all inclusive statement on an ad. I wonder why someone would get upset that the escort is trying their best to ensure a good experience . Ah well so goes life

[Mascguyinnnj]

Marc...Your a Wonderful Guy !! and I feel sorry for those who thrive on bashing people.

I had a Great time with you and would also give you high praises.

[Marc Dylan]

Marc...Your a Wonderful Guy !! and I feel sorry for those who thrive on bashing people.

I had a Great time with you and would also give you high praises.

 

Shush, quiet now. For your own safety you may not want to say that around these parts . Lol just kidding. Thank you very much for the compliment.

[down_to_business]

Gar1eth I am very sorry to hear of your bad experience trying to hire. It is very unfortunate that some providers can't seem to understand that rejection hurts and they can't appreciate the steps people go through (like hiring) to avoid rejection. Had they simply been upfront and honest in their advertisement (ie no fats, fems, bears, little people, brazilians, martians, or whatever else their hangups are), then you wouldn't have bothered to contact them, and that it doesn't have anything to do with the three minutes of time that was wasted that he referred to. All you didn't want to do was put yourself out there to be hurt and thats what he did, he hurt you, with a stinging rejection that you never wanted in the first place. Sometimes I think that being rejected when trying to pay for companionship hurts even more than rejection in everyday life.

 

Hold your head up high and know you did nothing wrong either by trying to hire someone for some comfort or by sharing your experience with the rest of us. The haters will hate.

 

I also want to leave you with some encouragement. Even if he isn't your cup of tea, Rod Hagen, an escort I never met, has an incredible ad running on rent boy. In is ad he states "...No man is too old, too young, too big, too small, too shy for my bed..." Gar1eth, the man who will make you feel accepted and good is out there. Rod Hagen (and other professional escorts like you), thank you for your beautiful words, and for offering the clients out there that have very little self confidence an opportunity for a moment of happiness in an otherwise cruel world.

[Frequentflier]

Hi Gar1eth,

I have a fun form of "get even" idea for you....since its good for your health, longevity and it can be fun to donate away old clothes that are too big, how about this. 1) Make the commitment to eat healthy and do some exercise every day to achieve the weight loss you want (I make sure that at a minimum its a walk of decent length even if its cold and I have to layer up, some sit ups, some push ups), 2) post a picture of Marc or another guy you find attractive around your house and think of this next one 3) once you are HWP contact Marc (I'm assuming he is good looking, hygienic, free of many tattoos and has no body deformities or blemishes) and set up a session. While you are with Marc, have him pleasure you of course but work on him to get him off as many times as you possibly can, bang his hot ass so many times he walks funny for days, make him so enjoy what you do to him that he begs you for repeat sessions..and then respond..."I'll think about it". Some of this is me kidding, some of it a serious recommendation..you decide which of it you want to be serious about doing (if any)

[operalover21]

so you start a topic that you know will turn into a flame war over these minor quibbles. he made all of that clear up front, so why rehash in an attempt to make trouble? can't we folks just agree to disagree?

 

again, it's posts like this that keep more good escorts from posting here. they don't want to deal with the drama.

 

Apparently not. Because some people persist in showing that some gay men are sad, unfortunate queens that like to beat dead horses until they rise from the dead. It's just bitch and moan 24/7 and it just never ends. Enough already. You wonder why some of these unfortunates have so much time on their hands.

[Marc Dylan]

Hi Gar1eth,

I have a fun form of "get even" idea for you....since its good for your health, longevity and it can be fun to donate away old clothes that are too big, how about this. 1) Make the commitment to eat healthy and do some exercise every day to achieve the weight loss you want (I make sure that at a minimum its a walk of decent length even if its cold and I have to layer up, some sit ups, some push ups), 2) post a picture of Marc or another guy you find attractive around your house and think of this next one 3) once you are HWP contact Marc (I'm assuming he is good looking, hygienic, free of many tattoos and has no body deformities or blemishes) and set up a session. While you are with Marc, have him pleasure you of course but work on him to get him off as many times as you possibly can, bang his hot ass so many times he walks funny for days, make him so enjoy what you do to him that he begs you for repeat sessions..and then respond..."I'll think about it". Some of this is me kidding, some of it a serious recommendation..you decide which of it you want to be serious about doing (if any)

 

If you would like to see how I look feel free to skype , by the way I dont beg anyone for anything . If someone isnt interested I would simply move on never beg.

[operalover21]

Gman I like your post and your humility. "I wouldn't want to have sex with me." - Though I think he has every right to see who he wants, sounds like it is Mr. Dylan who is missing out rather than all the non-HWP clients who are refused his time. Humility and kindness are tremendous turn-ons to some, including me.

 

I don't think tha's "humility" but a very sad insecurity that might need a therapist. No human being should feel that about themselves and it actually made me feel very sad. No one should feel that way about themselves.

[operalover21]

Gar1eth I am very sorry to hear of your bad experience trying to hire. It is very unfortunate that some providers can't seem to understand that rejection hurts and they can't appreciate the steps people go through (like hiring) to avoid rejection. Had they simply been upfront and honest in their advertisement (ie no fats, fems, bears, little people, brazilians, martians, or whatever else their hangups are), then you wouldn't have bothered to contact them, and that it doesn't have anything to do with the three minutes of time that was wasted that he referred to. All you didn't want to do was put yourself out there to be hurt and thats what he did, he hurt you, with a stinging rejection that you never wanted in the first place. Sometimes I think that being rejected when trying to pay for companionship hurts even more than rejection in everyday life.

 

Hold your head up high and know you did nothing wrong either by trying to hire someone for some comfort or by sharing your experience with the rest of us. The haters will hate.

 

I also want to leave you with some encouragement. Even if he isn't your cup of tea, Rod Hagen, an escort I never met, has an incredible ad running on rent boy. In is ad he states "...No man is too old, too young, too big, too small, too shy for my bed..." Gar1eth, the man who will make you feel accepted and good is out there. Rod Hagen (and other professional escorts like you), thank you for your beautiful words, and for offering the clients out there that have very little self confidence an opportunity for a moment of happiness in an otherwise cruel world.

 

I think we now know more about Marc Dylan's escorting and who he will service than ANY OTHER ESCORT in the history of all of MANKIND. Perhaps you'd like to know his ethnicity? His shoe size? How about what size hat he wears? Or whether he likes Italian or Indian food? Perhaps whether or not he has mommy issues? How about what his breath smells like?

 

I mean, Jesus H Christ, enough already. The ad is there to see whether it's someone you might be interested in hiring. The whole point of communication and contacting the escort is to see if the client wishes to hire that guy and whether or not that guy wants to accept that appointment. You expect the ad to address EVERY CONCEIVABLE variation on that process in order to save you 3 FREAKIN' minutes of time and the possibility of rejection?

 

Give me a break. It's not dating, for shit's sake. These threads are really embarassing because they show a bunch of people who are so full of themselves they probably haven't had a dump in 3 months.

[Mariner45]

I think we now know more about Marc Dylan's escorting and who he will service than ANY OTHER ESCORT in the history of all of MANKIND. Perhaps you'd like to know his ethnicity? His shoe size? How about what size hat he wears? Or whether he likes Italian or Indian food? Perhaps whether or not he has mommy issues? How about what his breath smells like?

 

I mean, Jesus H Christ, enough already. The ad is there to see whether it's someone you might be interested in hiring. The whole point of communication and contacting the escort is to see if the client wishes to hire that guy and whether or not that guy wants to accept that appointment. You expect the ad to address EVERY CONCEIVABLE variation on that process in order to save you 3 FREAKIN' minutes of time and the possibility of rejection?

 

Give me a break. It's not dating, for shit's sake. These threads are really embarassing because they show a bunch of people who are so full of themselves they probably haven't had a dump in 3 months.

 

I agree. I mean c'mon, there are thousands of men for rent out there in the world. Surely you can find another one to your taste. If Marc Dylan isn't your cup of tea, if you're turned off by his physical preferences, if you're offended by his rejection, well that's a real shame. Go buy yourself a slice of chocolate cake to make yourself feel better. I've been rejected by a couple escorts. I found another one and had chandelier swinging sex after I made sure the chocolate was off my teeth.

 

No offense to Marc, I'm sure you're great.

[Marc Dylan]

Gar1eth I am very sorry to hear of your bad experience trying to hire. It is very unfortunate that some providers can't seem to understand that rejection hurts and they can't appreciate the steps people go through (like hiring) to avoid rejection. Had they simply been upfront and honest in their advertisement (ie no fats, fems, bears, little people, brazilians, martians, or whatever else their hangups are), then you wouldn't have bothered to contact them, and that it doesn't have anything to do with the three minutes of time that was wasted that he referred to. All you didn't want to do was put yourself out there to be hurt and thats what he did, he hurt you, with a stinging rejection that you never wanted in the first place. Sometimes I think that being rejected when trying to pay for companionship hurts even more than rejection in everyday life.

 

 

 

Hold your head up high and know you did nothing wrong either by trying to hire someone for some comfort or by sharing your experience with the rest of us. The haters will hate.

 

I also want to leave you with some encouragement. Even if he isn't your cup of tea, Rod Hagen, an escort I never met, has an incredible ad running on rent boy. In is ad he states "...No man is too old, too young, too big, too small, too shy for my bed..." Gar1eth, the man who will make you feel accepted and good is out there. Rod Hagen (and other professional escorts like you), thank you for your beautiful words, and for offering the clients out there that have very little self confidence an opportunity for a moment of happiness in an otherwise cruel world.

 

Howdy, your post is very well written and makes me sad to read, but it still doesnt make it wrong to have a preference. I would think rejection expressed either in the ad or in the initial text or email could both be hurtful, but I think it would be more hurtful to the person to have them over and not give them the experience they want . If you missed my reasons for not mentioning HWP in my ad here there are again

 

First of all many guys are criticized for publicly expressing ANY particular requirement. Second I think it can be expressed more politely in a quick email exchange with a client . Third , many guys UNJUSTLY consider themselves overweight when its just a few extra pounds; thats when the one on one discussion and exchange of a few brief stats becomes very helpful , much more than an all inclusive statement on an ad. I meet plenty of guys who are so very hard on themselves for a few extra pounds , thats not an issue for me so why would I want to possibly deter the guys in that group.

 

At the end of the day no one should equate apperance or physical stature with a person's true worth as a human being. There are beautiful spirits that reside in people of all shapes and sizes but what we are discussing here is a very intimate act, that for me requires a certain amount of physical attraction, and that is something there is no getting around so at some point has to be addressed with a potential client, and I would rather politley express it privately, i think thats just more tactful and the way i will continue to conduct myself .

[jjkrkwood]

Marc...Your a Wonderful Guy !! and I feel sorry for those who thrive on bashing people.

I had a Great time with you and would also give you high praises.

 

Well Mascguy, at least we know YOU are HWP........

[+ Gar1eth]

I Debated On Posting...

 

As Marc was nothing but polite in all my interactions. But what good is this Forum if we can't report the truth of what happens in our interactions with escorts. I'll answer my own question- nothing. As for me being self-hating- well I'll discuss that topic between my Maker and if I have one a counselor. I am a very nice guy. Unfortunately I am also a chubby never athletic middle aged guy. Maybe what I should have said was that I understand Marc's preferences as I am not generally attracted to guys with the same physique that I have. The difference between Marc and I is that I don't advertise in a field where many of the clients are most likely are hwp disproportionate along with 50 or 60 pounds of well proportioned muscle. As I understand his feelings- personally I would still prefer for it to be stated in a gentle fashion in the ad. But again that's me. Marc is allowed to run his business way he sees fit. So the difference of opinion about his ad will have to continue to be a disagreement among gentlemen. I doubt my wishing is going to impact negatively on his business model.

 

I might add that after I posted, Marc texted me to discuss my original post. He remained polite and pleasant during the exchange ( so did I ). So this makes me wish even more that I was his type and that he was doing more than massage- but unfortunately you can't always have everything you want.

 

As another example of not always being able to get what you want-to the kind gentleman who suggested that I should meet Rod Hagen- I would love to meet Rod, have wanted to for years, but he doesn't bottom.

 

 

Gman

[jjkrkwood]

I think alot of people are like me in thinking that escorts were created for those people who cannot find their Fantasy man/woman in real life, and must resort to paying for it. along with that we also might think that escorts dont have a say in WHO they service, will see anyone that shows them a dollar and do whatever it is that is asked of THEM. WRONG !

As was pointed out, we as clients make VERY specific choices in our hiring selections, and in that process pass over many very appealling and qualified escorts. Why then should the escort be REQUIRED to see people he is not physically or mentally attracted to, and in turn not be able to provide that client with the best experience for his "dollar" ??? Its definitely not a buyers market or a one-way street. We as individuals experience discrimination and rejection in every aspect of life. Escorting is not sacred, nor immune. And you should not feel slighted, insulted or shortchanged if you dont meet an escorts "qualifications" for a client. Just move on. the problem is that too many prospective clients fixate and obsess over certain guys, and a rejection cuts like a knife, and makes them write a "revenge post" .... Now Gar, you know I have always been supportive of you, and have always felt you are hardest on yourself, and I do hope that venting about Marc has made you feel better. Has it ???? Somehow I think that even IF the escort was VERY specific in his ad, a fixated client would still contact him and hope that the escort would accept his offer. Some introspection is definitely in order and would do ALL of us some good.

[Marc Dylan]

As Marc was nothing but polite in all my interactions. But what good is this Forum if we can't report the truth of what happens in our interactions with escorts. I'll answer my own question- nothing. As for me being self-hating- well I'll discuss that topic between my Maker and if I have one a counselor. I am a very nice guy. Unfortunately I am also a chubby never athletic middle aged guy. Maybe what I should have said was that I understand Marc's preferences as I am not generally attracted to guys with the same physique that I have. The difference between Marc and I is that I don't advertise in a field where many of the clients are most likely are hwp disproportionate along with 50 or 60 pounds of well proportioned muscle. As I understand his feelings- personally I would still prefer for it to be stated in a gentle fashion in the ad. But again that's me. Marc is allowed to run his business way he sees fit. So the difference of opinion about his ad will have to continue to be a disagreement among gentlemen. I doubt my wishing is going to impact negatively on his business model.

 

I might add that after I posted, Marc texted me to discuss my original post. He remained polite and pleasant during the exchange ( so did I ). So this makes me wish even more that I was his type and that he was doing more than massage- but unfortunately you can't always have everything you want.

 

As another example of not always being able to get what you want-to the kind gentleman who suggested that I should meet Rod Hagen- I would love to meet Rod, have wanted to for years, but he doesn't bottom.

 

 

Gman

 

Hey, i enjoyed our conversation via text I have no doubt you are a nice person but , I must correct you on one of your statements in this post. There are A LOT of guys of all ages and body types who hire. Are you implying that if one has a preference he should not be an escort? I have lots of clients who are 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's who range from a few extra pounds all the way to very athletic toned bodies. These guys dont hire only out of necessity, some do it just for fun and to spice up their sex life. There is nothing wrong with a service provider choosing to cater to any specific market segment no matter the industry. Again , my text offer remains open. Feel free to text when ever

[Marc Dylan]

Well Mascguy, at least we know YOU are HWP........

 

Ok , thats pretty funny and whitty couldnt help but laugh.