Women at the male strip clubs

[Irtwo]

Reading these posts about how the gals are invading the male strip clubs, I thought it was interesting to see a female's POV of male stripper lap dances. Below is from a female reviewer on YELP talking about her experience at Hunkomania at Club 39.

 

 

"There is so little room to move around in that when you get a lap dance, the guy actually leads you over to a corner (away from all your friends) so that he doesn't have to climb all over ten other girls to rub his balls in your face. Uhm. We are girls. We don't actually get aroused from lap dances. We only like them because it's fun when all your friends are around squealing. Take that element away and there is just some sweaty muscle dude rubbing his balls in your face and making you touch his butt."

[Poppie]

And, the problem is?

[geoffk]

Damn, and he's wasting his time with her? bring it on!

[tyro]

Shoot, I keep HOPING some "sweaty muscle dude" will get his junk that close and MAKE me touch his assets!

I'm hoping she's young. All I feel is contempt and pity for anyone who needs her gurrlllzzz to stand around squealing to have fun.

And once again, I claim the title of "The Anti-Girl."

T

[Samai139]

Reading these posts about how the gals are invading the male strip clubs, I thought it was interesting to see a female's POV of male stripper lap dances. Below is from a female reviewer on YELP talking about her experience at Hunkomania at Club 39.

"There is so little room to move around in that when you get a lap dance, the guy actually leads you over to a corner

away from all your friends) so that he doesn't have to climb all over ten other girls to rub his balls in your face. Uhm. We are girls. We don't actually get aroused from lap dances. We only like them because it's fun when all your friends are around squealing. Take that element away and there is just some sweaty muscle dude rubbing his balls in your face and making you touch his butt."

 

IRtwo--I agree that the female reviewers' comments and her read on women in strip clubs were very interesting. If in fact she is correct, then it explains so much about my experiences in strip bars--limited to Montreal and Toronto. I had noticed that women came and went in "packs" and they rarely took the dancers into the private booths for private dances and they squealed a lot when dancers talked to them and did quasi-lap dances on the bar floor. Just goes to show that women and men really are different when it comes to lots of aspects of eroticism---for me the "muscles, the sweat, the balls" are ALL turn ons!! I certainly wouldn't get any thrill out of being in Campus or Stock with a group of my buddies and having to share a delicious dancers with them, although I have seen packs of young obviously out gay men in Stock do exactly that. Since I am at least one and possibly two generations removed from them, I put it down to a generational thing, but maybe it was something else. Thanks for posting, got me thinkilng about my strip bar experiences when I was doing it much more than I do now. (

[LurkerSpeaks]

my two cents worth on Samai's comments about seeing young gay men acting like the ladies did and the generational differences. Would it be because the young gay men have or can get close to those kind of bodies much more frequently/easily than us older gay men can? We don't get the sweaty muscle bodies up close and personal to us that often (outside of strip club type scenario) so we "appreciate" it more, where the younger gay men could (might) have the opportunity more frequently so it isn't as big of a deal to them.

 

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Just my thoughts..

[jjkrkwood]

Why are the women there in the first place if they dont like what goes on ??? Its no big secret what these clubs are about and what happens. You dont like hot, sweaty muscle rubbin up on you, go see Lion King !

[bigvalboy]

IRtwo--I agree that the female reviewers' comments and her read on women in strip clubs were very interesting. If in fact she is correct, then it explains so much about my experiences in strip bars--limited to Montreal and Toronto. I had noticed that women came and went in "packs" and they rarely took the dancers into the private booths for private dances and they squealed a lot when dancers talked to them and did quasi-lap dances on the bar floor. Just goes to show that women and men really are different when it comes to lots of aspects of eroticism---for me the "muscles, the sweat, the balls" are ALL turn ons!! I certainly wouldn't get any thrill out of being in Campus or Stock with a group of my buddies and having to share a delicious dancers with them, although I have seen packs of young obviously out gay men in Stock do exactly that. Since I am at least one and possibly two generations removed from them, I put it down to a generational thing, but maybe it was something else. Thanks for posting, got me thinking about my strip bar experiences when I was doing it much more than I do now. (

 

I think that young womans comments are not of the norm, at least from what I have observed in WEHO. One of the largest gay populations in the Nation. At the Abbey, probably on of the most popular bars/restaurants/strip club/ dance clubs in the city. Several years ago when business was struggling, the owners began embracing more straight people into the club. There was an uproar among the gay population. Most were shocked and appalled that straight women would come into the club. In hindsight, all the fear and anger was for nothing.

 

Most of the dancers are straight anyway and this new found clientèle brought much needed revenue into a struggling environment. I have on countless occasions gone to the Abbey with many of my straight female ex-coworkers. They still to this day will text me late in the evening asking me to join them. Some of the best times I have had are with these straight women. While it is no secret that I love the dancing boys, never once could I say that less attention was given me for the preference of a women. If anything, I receive more attention, even by the straight dancers. Gay people are more fun and we tip better.

 

On any given night the Abbey has a consistent line outside and the straight men and women, not only go the Abbey, but they will bar hop and eat in West Hollywood as well. They are spending there money here and I think that it builds a stronger and more vibrant community.

 

Twice on a recent trip to SF, I was at a strip club, and until a group of young women showed up, it was quite a boring night. Even the visiting porn star, who is most assuredly gay, had a good time teasing the girls as well. Now I will agree, I am trying to visualize woman at 'Stock' or 'Campus'.....that is a bit of a stretch. LOL

 

However MANY of my gay friends vehemently disagree with me, and want to keep the gay community to ourselves. They do present good arguments for doing so. I just feel other wise....

[+ Lucky]

That may be true at the Abbey, which is not really a strip club as we talk of them here. The Gaiety was a strip club, and the girls would come in, they would scream and carry on, and too many of the straight dancers would give their attention to these women. Big mistake- the women didn't tip, and they didn't take out. Most of the dancers learned that. I understand that even in Canada strip clubs women don't tip, and often think a lap dance is free for them.

[bigvalboy]

That may be true at the Abbey, which is not really a strip club as we talk of them here. The Gaiety was a strip club, and the girls would come in, they would scream and carry on, and too many of the straight dancers would give their attention to these women. Big mistake- the women didn't tip, and they didn't take out. Most of the dancers learned that. I understand that even in Canada strip clubs women don't tip, and often think a lap dance is free for them.

 

 

 

Well you are right about that, all the dancers in WEHO that I have talked to, do say the same thing, The women don't tip and they certainly don't do take out...even with my ex co-workers, getting those girls to give the dancer a dollar is like pulling teeth....they are fun, but it is frustrating dealing with them sometimes.

[+ FreshFluff]

Why are the women there in the first place if they dont like what goes on ??? Its no big secret what these clubs are about and what happens. You dont like hot, sweaty muscle rubbin up on you, go see Lion King !

 

Like a gag gift, it's a way of embarrassing the bride-to-be and spending a night giggling over the embarrassment. ("Remember when he..?") So they are enjoying it, just in a different way than men are.

 

Why? Women and men really are very different in the way they look at sex. The original idea behind these parties was that women would have a "last chance to play" before their wedding, just as men do. This was supposed to be empowering. The problem is that most women are not turned on by "random" men, as the reviewer said. I'm even going to call out Tyro here: Would you be turned in by a random handsome guy if he was dumb?

 

The real equivalent of a strip club for most women would be a club full of wealthy, good looking alpha males in expensive suits. Think of the National Press Club, except all the guys are great looking and hitting on the women who come in. And if the guys were brilliant too, I'd become like one of those straight male strip club addicts who sit at the same table every night.

[Samai139]

my two cents worth on Samai's comments about seeing young gay men acting like the ladies did and the generational differences. Would it be because the young gay men have or can get close to those kind of bodies much more frequently/easily than us older gay men can? We don't get the sweaty muscle bodies up close and personal to us that often (outside of strip club type scenario) so we "appreciate" it more, where the younger gay men could (might) have the opportunity more frequently so it isn't as big of a deal to them.

 

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Lurker--hadn't really thought about the differences between the gay generations in that way--thanks for pointing it out. I had originally thought it was just a "freer" more open approach when in a public place---rarely saw groups of middle-aged or older men at those strip clubs.

 

Tips: Someone mentioned women being poor tippers at strip clubs---that was the message I got from most of the dancers I talked to about their experiences with them. At both Campus and Stock dancers, especially the straight ones, paid more attention to the gals during Ladies Nights and seemed to go out of their way to avoid men, even those, like me at times, who had done lap dances with them. I put it down to an "image" thing, and when the gals had left those dancers had no problem in chatting me up and trying to get me to spend my money:))

[happyguy2]

I haven't been to strip clubs in the last few years, but I hated it when women were in the club, usually around the bar. I also found that most of the dancers hovered around them and ignored us guys. And the dancers also told me that the women were terrible tippers and rarely took them in for private dances in the back. I rarely stuck around for long when the women were there.

[AdamSmith]

There must be something about being queer. When my lesbian Latina hooker (for men) girlfriend was visiting NYC I took her to The Web and bought her a lap dance from one of the (to my firsthand knowledge ) gay boys dancing there. She came out of the back room afterward, looking satisfied, to report: "Well. He was great at the crotch grinding, but what was hilarious was he didn't know what to do with my boobies."

[Samai139]

AdamSmith--I think that probably confirms your "firsthand knowledge" about his gayness!! A friend I used to travel with and go to strip bars in Montreal has large man boobs and the straight dancers at both Stock and Campus loved fondling them and certainly knew what to do with boobies.

[+ FreshFluff]

Just to be clear: Straight women, in my view, are just as shallow as men. They're just shallow about different traits.

[tyro]

Tyro's shout-out (shout back?) to the Fresh One

 

Fresh Fluff: I'm even going to call out Tyro here: Would you be turned in by a random handsome guy if he was dumb?

The real equivalent of a strip club for most women would be a club full of wealthy, good looking alpha males in expensive suits.

 

Tyro: Hey, FF!! Turned on, yes. Willing to play if he were a sweetie, yes. Able to spend much more mental energy than that on him, no.

I'm glad you clarified the above sentence with "most women." Not all of us clamor for an alpha.

T

[+ FreshFluff]

Tyro: Hey, FF!! Turned on, yes. Willing to play if he were a sweetie, yes. Able to spend much more mental energy than that on him, no.

I'm glad you clarified the above sentence with "most women." Not all of us clamor for an alpha.

T

 

Who said anything about an alpha? I just said most women aren't attracted by pure looks. Instead, a woman usually has some non-physical trait, or set of traits, that's key to attraction. The trait can be anything from athleticism to fame to intelligence to ownership of a fancy sports car.

[EZEtoGRU]

A friend of mine will not go into a male strip club if there are women inside. He is certainly entitled to his view. I don't share it however. For instance I like Stock Bar in Montreal on Wednesdays which is lady's night. IMHO some of the hunkiest and most masculine dancers that Stock has are there on Wednesdays. I just ignore the screams and giggles from the ladies and just focus on the hot flesh.

[jjkrkwood]

Who said anything about an alpha? I just said most women aren't attracted by pure looks. Instead, a woman usually has some non-physical trait, or set of traits, that's key to attraction. The trait can be anything from athleticism to fame to intelligence to ownership of a fancy sports car.

 

Fluffy, I am certain there are alot of women that are as "piggy" about sex as men are. All those screaming women that go to the male strip shows and hoot and holla over there muscular, gyrating, sweaty bodies tells a diff tale. As well, alot of women that frequent gyms, and are ONLY turned on or will date the BIGGEST, most muscular dudes. And then there are the Snookies and JWOWS, who seek out the Big muscle Gorillas. These guys are not lusted after for their "brainpower" (although in fairness they may BE VERY smart). I just think there are alot of ladies , who even in 2012 think its "less than ladylike" to say they are attracted solely by the physical.... or will even admit to 1-nite stands just for sexual satisfaction from something other than their "rabbitt".....