Overnight Rates

[BostonPhil]

OMG This is the first thread I've started, does this font make me look fat?

 

Ok, that's better!

 

Please don't turn into a thread about poo, we've seen enough of those¹²³ recently. Don't fight cause then I'll get all turned on and end up getting all hot n heavy with the victor, no one wants that. Also, don't pick on me. I'm shy and I might end up feeling used and then you would never get to enjoy somewhat humorous long-winded pre-post jocular comments again.

 

I have always been more than accommodating in regards to overnights. Get your mind out of the gutter. So my question is a pretty simple one, what is your idea of a reasonable overnight rate? I shall now set up the hypothetical situation so as to prevent confusion. It is a 13HR overnight including at least one meal (unless you count early morning ass munching) which you will graciously pay for. There will be some sleep involved. You will allow him a shower and he may pee whenever the need arises (I said no poo, and yeah these last two are a joke.)

 

Ok, so yeah, have at it.

[bigvalboy]

OMG This is the first thread I've started, does this font make me look fat?

 

Ok, that's better!

 

Please don't turn into a thread about poo, we've seen enough of those¹²³ recently. Don't fight cause then I'll get all turned on and end up getting all hot n heavy with the victor, no one wants that. Also, don't pick on me. I'm shy and I might end up feeling used and then you would never get to enjoy somewhat humorous long-winded pre-post jocular comments again.

 

I have always been more than accommodating in regards to overnights. Get your mind out of the gutter. So my question is a pretty simple one, what is your idea of a reasonable overnight rate? I shall now set up the hypothetical situation so as to prevent confusion. It is a 13HR overnight including at least one meal (unless you count early morning ass munching) which you will graciously pay for. There will be some sleep involved. You will allow him a shower and he may pee whenever the need arises (I said no poo, and yeah these last two are a joke.)

 

Ok, so yeah, have at it.

 

Ok Phil, let's keep this simple..First of all you are seriously hot, so your rate would be much higher than most. My normal pay is about 1200-1500 dollars, but you I would pay lot more, I am thinking somewhere around 1500-1800, but then that is just me. Of course for that kind of money we would have a great time, no doubt. No sleep, No eat, No shower...just pure sex.....and of course we must leave time for the "morning wood".....

[jgoo]

Now that you are no longer a virgin for starting a post, you can relax and enjoy doing it some more

 

I assume you have done a survey of typical overnight costs for other escorts in your market. That is a good starting point for reference and for those that don't say "ask me", most on Rentboy for Boston seem to be asking for $1,000 for an overnight - of course the exact length of time isn't specified but I think between 10 and 12 hours is not unreasonable to expect for an overnight. The range goes from about $800 to $1,500 (excluding the very top end @$2,500 and bottom end @ $500). Boston Boy Escorts, an agency that represents Boston escorts (and which I believe represents you as well) charges $2,500 for an overnight and that seems rather extreme to me and certainly out of the market range from what I can tell. To do a decent market survey you would have to look at a variety of differentiating characteristics some of which are certainly subjective that helps you compare your offer to what someone similar is offering. You could also survey the "ask me" ads to see what they really are expecting. Not sure it is really worthwhile but depends on how important this is to you and your business to determine the depth you want to go into this.

 

Then you have to consider your own preferences and desires. If you have a strong preference or distaste for them then adjust price accordingly. Ultimately you have to decide what you feel your time is worth and how to balance all the things you need to consider into a price you feel comfortable with. I've seen some escorts who have a base price but occasionally run "special" deals. Not sure that is a good idea or not but I suspect there is a spike in demand when that happens. Pricing and marketing strategy is a huge part of any business, so asking this question shows you are taking your own business seriously and acting professionally.

 

So after all that, let me just say that for myself, I typically expect to pay around $1,000 to $1,200 max (it is difficult for me to see the added value I would get for anything more than that even though I can afford it). If an escort is well reviewed (multiple reviews and more than just first time reviewers) I will be more willing to pay towards the higher end of my range. Now if I see someone who is lower than my expectations, and they are well reviewed, then that certainly piques my interest and depending on the price may even consider flying to see them or flying them in to see me.

[down_to_business]

Phil, this is just my opinion on the subject so feel free to accept it or reject it.

 

While this message board is good for a lot of things, reality isn't one of them. In general the guys on here are more affluent and pro escort than the general population that will make up the majority of people that will hire you. Base your rates on 'our' responses at your own risk!

 

In general, I see escorts that charge anywhere between $500 and $1200 for an overnight. The time frame is anywhere between 8 and 24 hours at those rates. Sometimes travel is involved and the airfare is prepaid in addition to the rate. My personal comfort zone is at or under $1000. I might risk seeing someone new at the closer to the bottom range and would almost never hire someone I haven't met before at the higher range (until after doing an hour appointment).

[adriano46]

I have found that in the US (well, in the Northeast of the US) the average overnight rate is $1,000 though more and more I see some posting a bit higher (up to $1500).

 

European rates have hovered for years around the 600 Euro mark for the same, which today is less than $800 (and a monetary zone I feel, obviously, much more comfortable in as overnights there always began around 6:00-7:30PM and went until the next morning after breakfast, so -- much more cost-friendly).

 

In the States, I find a trend of some escorts who charge overnight fees to often do NOT want to begin until after 9:00PM --- or later even -- and want to be out the door at 6:00 AM, and no, morning sex is not included as they feign being "too tired" or exhuasted or something. I always saw overnight as a 12-hour time frame, but more and more it is becoming 9 or less hours.

 

As I get older and continue to hire (albeit less frequently), I am less comfortable sharing the bed all night with a guy (no matter how hot he is) because in reality I will want maybe up to 2 hours of sex before finally dozing off, and often morning sex is not as great as some make it out to be (e.g. I wake very early every day, no matter what, and if I have a guy in bed with me, sneak off to the bathroom and brush my teeth, mouthwash, scrub up and clean off the down below areas, then all fresh and clean go back to bed -- to a guy sound asleep, and me wondering when he will turn over and ravage me.). I have never really gotten the morning etiquette of sex with an escort - do I wake him no matter what, or is he expected to sense I am awake and go for it with me??? Too much drama before coffee so less and less overnights, and then it is a question of why, then, fork out $1000 or more for what in reality is 2 hours of sex?

[jjkrkwood]

NOONE can put a price on YOUR charms BP. As you have seen from many ad postings rates are quite variable, some even ridiculous, and that doesnt stop people from Hiring.

 

What may seem fair to one, may not to another. This is all about YOU. Nothing is etched in stone, Try different rates and see the reaction. People usually Dont remember previous rates unless they are anal retentive, and the handfull of assholes that do exists probably wont be your clients anyway, so dont worry bout it.

 

Dont forget our NYC get-together !

[wayout]

BostonPhil, Only you can set your prices but I don't agree with the comment that is is all about you. If you think that way then you won't be taking into account things that should matter...like location, the client base, the competition, etc. Definitely your needs and wants are very important and should not be ignored, but neither should other considerations be ignored.

 

There is nothing necessarily wrong with keeping the "ask me" for overnights in your ads (although as a client some do not like that) and then address it on a case by case basis with the client depending on various factors. Kind of like dynamic pricing which is when the price is not firmly set and instead it changes based on changing circumstances, like increases in demand at certain times, type of customer being targeted, changing marketing conditions, etc.

[healthguy]

Hi BP,

No, the font does not make you look fat. However, you might start saving up for a little chin work!!! Thinking about that for myself as well. Maybe we can get a 2-4 cheaper? Just kidding, usually. Put me in line after JJ for a NYC get together. Have a fun, safe weekend. Rand P.S. Since I don't function from "your end," I have no idea what to charge!

[Racketjock]

When traveling, I have seen a lot of overnight rates greater than $1000, usually $1200-1500+. For me that is too much. I have only hired one incredible man, on repeat, for overnights. Having only done 2 so far. I really like the extended evening session and morning sex is always great. I mean, who would turn down a wonderful blow job to start the day?? Having said that, I think $800-1000 is atttainable for most clients wanting overnights, and with the other good advice given here, ultimately think it is a matter of what works for you and your business. Congrats on losing your starter post virginity!

[maxwellissmart]

OMG This is the first thread I've started, does this font make me look fat?

 

Ok, that's better!

 

Please don't turn into a thread about poo, we've seen enough of those¹²³ recently. Don't fight cause then I'll get all turned on and end up getting all hot n heavy with the victor, no one wants that. Also, don't pick on me. I'm shy and I might end up feeling used and then you would never get to enjoy somewhat humorous long-winded pre-post jocular comments again.

 

Why don't you just throw a bucket of blood in the water and get out the shark whistle—that might make them come faster?

 

Okay, now that I've read through all the comments... I would start with $1K-$1200. Since you're spending an extended overnight, I would probably ask for the high end. Under $1K is too little, and $1500 risks sticker shock.

[Kevin Slater]

While this message board is good for a lot of things, reality isn't one of them.

 

I want to nominate this for the "what's your favorite quote" thread.

 

Kevin Slater

[jjkrkwood]

While this message board is good for a lot of things, reality isn't one of them. In general the guys on here are more affluent and pro escort than the general population that will make up the majority of people that will hire you. ).

 

Just a personal aside on the above comment. Just because a person runs around SAYING they spend, doesnt mean they do. I guess thats where the reality of the matter comes into play ? I have learned that alot of people like to "fluff" themselves up with Big claims. I take it all with a grain of salt. Rule of thumb to BP, see what other escorts charge, evaluate YOUR comfort level and your market, then set a price. Like anything else, dont overthink, you can always adjust the price accordingly.

[unsub2O17]

I have found that in the US (well, in the Northeast of the US) the average overnight rate is $1,000 though more and more I see some posting a bit higher (up to $1500).

 

European rates have hovered for years around the 600 Euro mark for the same, which today is less than $800 (and a monetary zone I feel, obviously, much more comfortable in as overnights there always began around 6:00-7:30PM and went until the next morning after breakfast, so -- much more cost-friendly).

 

In the States, I find a trend of some escorts who charge overnight fees to often do NOT want to begin until after 9:00PM --- or later even -- and want to be out the door at 6:00 AM, and no, morning sex is not included as they feign being "too tired" or exhuasted or something. I always saw overnight as a 12-hour time frame, but more and more it is becoming 9 or less hours.

 

As I get older and continue to hire (albeit less frequently), I am less comfortable sharing the bed all night with a guy (no matter how hot he is) because in reality I will want maybe up to 2 hours of sex before finally dozing off, and often morning sex is not as great as some make it out to be (e.g. I wake very early every day, no matter what, and if I have a guy in bed with me, sneak off to the bathroom and brush my teeth, mouthwash, scrub up and clean off the down below areas, then all fresh and clean go back to bed -- to a guy sound asleep, and me wondering when he will turn over and ravage me.). I have never really gotten the morning etiquette of sex with an escort - do I wake him no matter what, or is he expected to sense I am awake and go for it with me??? Too much drama before coffee so less and less overnights, and then it is a question of why, then, fork out $1000 or more for what in reality is 2 hours of sex?

 

 

Adrian, please let me (yes, ME of all people) give you some reasons for an overnight vs. 2 hours of sex. These apply only if you're doing the traveling and an "in" appointment. But given those two, you have to stay at a hotel for the night anyway. You also have to have dinner and breakfast anyway. And, in my case, I probably wouldn't have "morning wood" anyway. So, in purely financial terms, if you add the cost of a room, meals, and 2 hours of your escort's time versus his global fee for an overnight, there is really not that much difference, and you get to spend all that extra time with him which, hopefully, is a big plus. That's the way I figure it anyway. BTW, I also get up very early. I figure it's a good time to do my email. So, how nice to have him next to me--even sleeping. And, BP, $1000 definitely seems to me to be the most common rate.

[maxwellissmart]

In the States, I find a trend of some escorts who charge overnight fees to often do NOT want to begin until after 9:00PM --- or later even -- and want to be out the door at 6:00 AM, and no, morning sex is not included as they feign being "too tired" or exhuasted or something. I always saw overnight as a 12-hour time frame, but more and more it is becoming 9 or less hours.

 

Sorry, that bit about wanting to be out the door at 6am made me choke on my oatmeal with laughter. Being awake at 6am—riiiiiight. I always thought this was something people just said to each other to seem impressive or sound like some person on the "Today" show—no one actually wakes up at 6am unless they have to pee.

[jjkrkwood]

Even in my younger days, when I hooked up with guys for FREE for 1-shot deals, I NEVER wanted to spend the nite with a stranger. Why would I want to sleep next to a person I dont know, and if its in my house, falling asleep and giving them free reign to walk around and do whatever ? WTF, no way.... Do the deed, get the fuck out, and let me get my sleep....

IMO its only nice to sleep next to and cuddle up with a person that you know and have feelings for. I get the lonely, companionship thing, and thats fine for some but not me.

 

Sorry for Hijacking BP....

[JT Brooklyn]

Over the Year's and back to HOOBOY Days this Question was/is and always will be debated!

 

IMHO anybody who wants to PAY to watch someone SLEEP .. is better off doing a couple of SESSIONS where NO ONE gets Sleep

[maxwellissmart]

Even in my younger days, when I hooked up with guys for FREE for 1-shot deals, I NEVER wanted to spend the nite with a stranger. Why would I want to sleep next to a person I dont know, and if its in my house, falling asleep and giving them free reign to walk around and do whatever ? WTF, no way.... Do the deed, get the fuck out, and let me get my sleep....

IMO its only nice to sleep next to and cuddle up with a person that you know and have feelings for. I get the lonely, companionship thing, and thats fine for some but not me.

 

Sorry for Hijacking BP....

 

I've fallen asleep with clients before, spontaneously. But I seem to never be able to get comfortable with someone when it's time to actually go to sleep. I'll lay there all night long wide awake unless I take a doll and channel Neely O'Hara.

[Guest MajorTomp]

I've actually booked a number of overnights and frankly I'm most comfortable in the $700 - $800 range for an overnight. I balk at $1000. I've got one great guy who's 24 hour rate is $1,200. I love that option because you get some time together besides sex and sleep!

[citylaw1]

The most I've paid is $1200. I think $1000 to be more reasonable, however, like many on this board, I am pretty tired of overnights.

[jjkrkwood]

I've fallen asleep with clients before, spontaneously. But I seem to never be able to get comfortable with someone when it's time to actually go to sleep. I'll lay there all night long wide awake unless I take a doll and channel Neely O'Hara.

 

EXACTLY, so why would I want to be $1000 poorer AND sleep deprived ? Some people just have their needs and the money to squander.

[citylaw1]

I've actually booked a number of overnights and frankly I'm most comfortable in the $700 - $800 range for an overnight. I balk at $1000. I've got one great guy who's 24 hour rate is $1,200. I love that option because you get some time together besides sex and sleep!

 

 

 

This scenario is much more appealing to me. $1200 for 24 hours is more than reasonable for my needs. Paying an escort to sleep is no longer appealing; and, quite honestly, nobody feels sexy in the AM. An evening appointment should, in my opinion, include fun time, dinner and drinks for 600-700. Perhaps 7pm until 1 am or so. I usually have no trouble arranging this booking at the mentioned prices.

[gallahadesquire]

I've actually booked a number of overnights and frankly I'm most comfortable in the $700 - $800 range for an overnight. I balk at $1000. I've got one great guy who's 24 hour rate is $1,200. I love that option because you get some time together besides sex and sleep!

 

 

 

This scenario is much more appealing to me. $1200 for 24 hours is more than reasonable for my needs. Paying an escort to sleep is no longer appealing; and, quite honestly, nobody feels sexy in the AM. An evening appointment should, in my opinion, include fun time, dinner and drinks for 600-700. Perhaps 7pm until 1 am or so. I usually have no trouble arranging this booking at the mentioned prices.

 

Agreed, except I'd change it to 5:00 to Midnight. Otherwise, the same. I can't sleep with someone (I found that out) and I'm a morning person.

[seeker630]

EXACTLY, so why would I want to be $1000 poorer AND sleep deprived ? Some people just have their needs and the money to squander.

 

Hmm - just because it's not worth it to YOU doesn't mean it's a waste of someone ELSE'S money.

[jjkrkwood]

Hmm - just because it's not worth it to YOU doesn't mean it's a waste of someone ELSE'S money.

 

Its funny, cause I was WAITING for that exact response from YOU, and it WAS expected.... doesnt change my opinion however, and FYI, squander doesnt necessarily mean wasteful. More like "Freely spent"... However, if they are happy, then god dang it, I'm happy too...

 

However, I cant see how paying a person to sleep makes any sense? WhatEva ! aint MY dollar........

[seeker630]

Its funny, cause I was WAITING for that exact response from YOU, and it WAS expected.... doesnt change my opinion however, and FYI, squander doesnt necessarily mean wasteful. More like "Freely spent"... However, if they are happy, then god dang it, I'm happy too...

 

However, I cant see how paying a person to sleep makes any sense? WhatEva ! aint MY dollar........

 

lol - we both have our 'hot buttons'. And actually, I don't think I've ever heard 'squander' used EXCEPT to mean 'waste', and I haven't found a non-perjorative definition online (the closest I see is 'spend extravagantly' ) but if you DID mean simply 'spend freely', then I misunderstood your remark.

 

Although i have never hired for an overnight, I understand the appeal of sleeping with someone you're comfortable with - sometimes I like being held, and sometimes I like to hold. For me, it doesn't have to be someone I have an intimate connection with, but there does need to be some level of 'connection'. But I wouldn't be paying them simply to sleep - I'd be paying them to sleep with me, with the consequent opportunities.