Overnight Rates

[jjkrkwood]

lol - we both have our 'hot buttons'. And actually, I don't think I've ever heard 'squander' used EXCEPT to mean 'waste', and I haven't found a non-perjorative definition online (the closest I see is 'spend extravagantly' ) but if you DID mean simply 'spend freely', then I misunderstood your remark.

 

Although i have never hired for an overnight, I understand the appeal of sleeping with someone you're comfortable with - sometimes I like being held, and sometimes I like to hold. For me, it doesn't have to be someone I have an intimate connection with, but there does need to be some level of 'connection'. But I wouldn't be paying them simply to sleep - I'd be paying them to sleep with me, with the consequent opportunities.

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but basically, there is a bunch of "down time" in there. And you are paying for that down time... but as I said, I'm good.... If u r happy, I am happy, Kum-bay-Yah.

 

Something Ive nEVER done, and wont ever, just like i would never invite an escort out for a meal, cause he might order the most expensive thing on the menu. but lets not go back to THAT thread ! :o:o

[+ Travis69]

Something Ive nEVER done, and wont ever, just like i would never invite an escort out for a meal, cause he might order the most expensive thing on the menu. but lets not go back to THAT thread ! :o:o

 

The escort might order TWO of the most expensive items on the menu, get one in a doggy bag and wake you up in the middle of the night as he can't find the A1 Sauce to put on his steak that he is eating in the middle of the bed and dripping steak juice all over your new sheets.

[jjkrkwood]

The escort might order TWO of the most expensive items on the menu, get one in a doggy bag and wake you up in the middle of the night as he can't find the A1 Sauce to put on his steak that he is eating in the middle of the bed and dripping steak juice all over your new sheets.

 

ALL good points Trav......

[adriano46]

The escort might order TWO of the most expensive items on the menu, get one in a doggy bag and wake you up in the middle of the night as he can't find the A1 Sauce to put on his steak that he is eating in the middle of the bed and dripping steak juice all over your new sheets.

 

LOL - I once was with an escort from Budapest, big muscle fantasy guy! He came highly recommended. The evening/overnight went like this:

1) I had tickets to the National Theatre for a dance/song festival. I made sure his agent knew this and the guy hired would want to go. This one had no idea where the National Theatre was (first bad sign) and then as we walked there, kept taking phone messages and calls from friends (2nd bad sign); at theatre, he hated ths seats we had, managed to move himself - and - oh, he was with me - remembered that point and waved me to join him; then after 1st act told me he was BORED and wanted to leave.

2) We then went to an open square where I offered him a late meal at a nice outdoor dinner place (it was nearing 10 PM). Instead he ordered 2 beers and spent an hour texting and watching sports. I asked him 3 times if he was sure he would not want to eat, as I had hired him for overnight, but he declined.

3) Got to the room. As I usually do, I invited him to shower (and me too) but he insisted he shower alone. OK, I thought, I'll have plenty of time later. He finally put the damn phone down when I politely asked if he would mind no longer texting and taking calls - he sulked a bit, but I reminded him I had the number of his "agent" and it was not yet too late to just cancel the rest of the evening. That stopped him.

4) After the shower, sex was perfunctory to BORING (like he thought the theatre was). I felt like I was in a show, get the staight got off (yeah, he claimned he was straight, but had starred in many porn films as a bottom).

5) He feigns exhaustion, rolls over and pretends to fall asleep, so I turn off the light and try to sleep (and like some here, find it difficult to "sleep" with a stranger sharing the bed)

6) At 1 AM he wakes me to tell me he is hungary and NOW wants a meal and at that hour the only recourse is the very expensive "After 11:00 PM room service menu" -- where he orders salmon, fries, and some other odds and ends - a real mess, and smelly. He eats his way through all this protein until 2:30 whereupon I am pushing the damn stinkky tray outside the room door as the smell was awful. -- And now he is burping so much, the thought of sex is far from my mind.

7) I awaken in the AM, do some e-mails, wash up, and crawl back in with him to snuggle, whereupon he turns and hits me in the face with the worst case of morning breath imaginable -- my woody became almost a vagina at that point.

 

So - to those suggesting I re-think my "no overnight" pokicy, experiences like this ake it hard to reconsider. I have a few guys I still see for overnights. They no longer excort professionally but we meet, seep together very well, and I repay their time with a generous tip.

[jjkrkwood]

LOL - I once was with an escort from Budapest, big muscle fantasy guy! He came highly recommended. The evening/overnight went like this:

1) I had tickets to the National Theatre for a dance/song festival. I made sure his agent knew this and the guy hired would want to go. This one had no idea where the National Theatre was (first bad sign) and then as we walked there, kept taking phone messages and calls from friends (2nd bad sign); at theatre, he hated ths seats we had, managed to move himself - and - oh, he was with me - remembered that point and waved me to join him; then after 1st act told me he was BORED and wanted to leave.

2) We then went to an open square where I offered him a late meal at a nice outdoor dinner place (it was nearing 10 PM). Instead he ordered 2 beers and spent an hour texting and watching sports. I asked him 3 times if he was sure he would not want to eat, as I had hired him for overnight, but he declined.

3) Got to the room. As I usually do, I invited him to shower (and me too) but he insisted he shower alone. OK, I thought, I'll have plenty of time later. He finally put the damn phone down when I politely asked if he would mind no longer texting and taking calls - he sulked a bit, but I reminded him I had the number of his "agent" and it was not yet too late to just cancel the rest of the evening. That stopped him.

4) After the shower, sex was perfunctory to BORING (like he thought the theatre was). I felt like I was in a show, get the staight got off (yeah, he claimned he was straight, but had starred in many porn films as a bottom).

5) He feigns exhaustion, rolls over and pretends to fall asleep, so I turn off the light and try to sleep (and like some here, find it difficult to "sleep" with a stranger sharing the bed)

6) At 1 AM he wakes me to tell me he is hungary and NOW wants a meal and at that hour the only recourse is the very expensive "After 11:00 PM room service menu" -- where he orders salmon, fries, and some other odds and ends - a real mess, and smelly. He eats his way through all this protein until 2:30 whereupon I am pushing the damn stinkky tray outside the room door as the smell was awful. -- And now he is burping so much, the thought of sex is far from my mind.

7) I awaken in the AM, do some e-mails, wash up, and crawl back in with him to snuggle, whereupon he turns and hits me in the face with the worst case of morning breath imaginable -- my woody became almost a vagina at that point.

 

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WOW Adriano, its sounds like you really DID have the true "Boyfriend" experience ?

[adriano46]

WOW Adriano, its sounds like you really DID have the true "Boyfriend" experience ?

 

Yeah, the Boyfriend from Hell! Every time I see his ads on GayRomeo or Rentboy (he occasionally comes to NYC) I get ill.

[jjkrkwood]

Yeah, the Boyfriend from Hell! Every time I see his ads on GayRomeo or Rentboy (he occasionally comes to NYC) I get ill.

 

Live and Learn my friend, Live and Learn......

[BostonPhil]

Oh dear I don't even know where to start responding. Perhaps I should have not posted this so early in the morning before a day where I was gonna be busy getting my eyebrows done and such.

 

I should explain that I am always trying to find ways to improve myself, my product and business. Sometimes I'll try new advertising outlets, Joey inspired me to take out a PRO ad on Adam4Adam just so I could see for myself how bad it would be. I will totally be blogging about that when it finally expires.

 

It was in this spirit that I asked the question. I understand that most of you are truly professional clients and that was well considered. What I gain from this is not only the reaffirmation that I am not being a dick, overcharging or setting unrealistic expectations. I knew full well this thread would spawn a number of horror stories, this allows me to gain more of the client's point of view on expectations of myself. Being in a public post this way also serves to educate those escorts and clients that may only be on the site to read.

 

I will say that I am perfectly happy with the way I work overnights. I wholeheartedly agree that it is ridiculous to be paying some one to sleep. Finding out the expectations place on myself first then negotiating a rate has worked out pretty well. If you expect me to be up all night "performing" you better believe you are going to pay more for that. This policy has allowed me to share some great times with clients and often makes them return.

 

And that is it for my general reply, off to reread and respond to individual posts. And I am pretty sure some where in there I owe JJ a slap or two.

[bobchitown]

This thread makes me wonder whether all overnights are out calls, or if some escorts will do an incall overnight. I remember that someone used to advertise a bed and breakfast service that came with "extra service", but I've lost track of it. I've just always assume that by definition the client would usually host the overnight.

[BostonPhil]

Ok Phil, let's keep this simple..First of all you are seriously hot, so your rate would be much higher than most. My normal pay is about 1200-1500 dollars, but you I would pay lot more, I am thinking somewhere around 1500-1800, but then that is just me. Of course for that kind of money we would have a great time, no doubt. No sleep, No eat, No shower...just pure sex.....and of course we must leave time for the "morning wood".....

 

You made me blush. There is always time for morning wood. I cannot imagine what would possess an escort to say no to a client on the morning of an overnight.

 

....most on Rentboy for Boston seem to be asking for $1,000 for an overnight - of course the exact length of time isn't specified but I think between 10 and 12 hours is not unreasonable to expect for an overnight. The range goes from about $800 to $1,500 (excluding the very top end @$2,500 and bottom end @ $500). Boston Boy Escorts, an agency that represents Boston escorts (and which I believe represents you as well) charges $2,500 for an overnight and that seems rather extreme to me and certainly out of the market range from what I can tell.

 

Yes, yes they do.

 

I have found that in the US (well, in the Northeast of the US) the average overnight rate is $1,000 though more and more I see some posting a bit higher (up to $1500).

 

No sex is worth 1500. None.

NOONE can put a price on YOUR charms BP. As you have seen from many ad postings rates are quite variable, some even ridiculous, and that doesnt stop people from Hiring.

 

What may seem fair to one, may not to another. This is all about YOU. Nothing is etched in stone, Try different rates and see the reaction. People usually Dont remember previous rates unless they are anal retentive, and the handfull of assholes that do exists probably wont be your clients anyway, so dont worry bout it.

 

Dont forget our NYC get-together !

 

I have not forgotten, I want that Big Mac. If fact, I am suppose to be in NYC from the 17th-18th and I was just going to spend the weekend there. But now I have to be back in Boston by the 19th to fly to Florida... Who knows though, right?

 

Hi BP,

No, the font does not make you look fat. However, you might start saving up for a little chin work!!! Thinking about that for myself as well. Maybe we can get a 2-4 cheaper? Just kidding, usually. Put me in line after JJ for a NYC get together. Have a fun, safe weekend. Rand P.S. Since I don't function from "your end," I have no idea what to charge!

 

I'm more worried about my nose. Apparently there is a line now?

[BostonPhil]

This thread makes me wonder whether all overnights are out calls, or if some escorts will do an incall overnight. I remember that someone used to advertise a bed and breakfast service that came with "extra service", but I've lost track of it. I've just always assume that by definition the client would usually host the overnight.

 

I have one local client that I do this with.

[jawjateck]

This thread makes me wonder whether all overnights are out calls, or if some escorts will do an incall overnight. I remember that someone used to advertise a bed and breakfast service that came with "extra service", but I've lost track of it. I've just always assume that by definition the client would usually host the overnight.

 

I have enjoyed quite a few overnights with an escort in his home/apartment/hotel. This usually did not happen on a first meeting, but would occur on repeat visits where a comfort level was established between us. Years ago, I spent many overnights with an awesome local escort here in Atlanta in his apartment. He never seemed to mind; in fact, we saw each other so often, that we would frequently have dinner together "off the clock" (let's not go there again), because we became friends. Lost a good one when he retired, but I was happy for him that he was ready to return to the professional work force and in a good situation for him.

[BostonPhil]

Why don't you just throw a bucket of blood in the water and get out the shark whistle—that might make them come faster?

 

I was all out of chum at 3AM

[BostonPhil]

Sorry, that bit about wanting to be out the door at 6am made me choke on my oatmeal with laughter. Being awake at 6am—riiiiiight. I always thought this was something people just said to each other to seem impressive or sound like some person on the "Today" show—no one actually wakes up at 6am unless they have to pee.

 

I use to get up at 415 and be out of the house by 5. I still wake up some times at 415 but I roll over and go back to sleep now.

[rocky]

Wow now I feel cheap. Here I am someone who spends about $30k per year on escorts and looking at $500-1000 per night for an overnight. Sorry not me. Of course I'm usually withsomeone that I see regularly but still those rates out of touch for me. Sorry dudes.

[adriano46]

First of all, to BostonPhil, you come across as a very great and amazingly unique new star here, and it is a pleasure to read your posts as you set out in the world of escorting. I just went through your personal web page and I was happily suprised at how very nice and interesting the page was, and you had many great photos of you.

 

On a point raised by some others where the OVERNIGHT is chez l'escort (at his place), I sometimes wish more guys actively promoted that because I would be MORE WILLING to shell out the $$ if it did not also include the price of a hotel room for the night, dinner etc...

 

There are a few guys I have met for 2 hours or so, and I would like very much to consider going for a longer tryst, but all the extra expense makes me hesitate (and the fact that often I have to make a last minute decision to hire a guy when a sudden pocket of free time opens, and it is too much hassle to then go on HotWire, Expedia or whatever and go through the hassle of finding a last minute hotel that is clean, comfortable and convenient, then pack, run into NYC - or wherever - and check in and then WAIT for the guy to show... sheez by the time he arives, I am already exhausted and the ardorand heat of the mmoent has worn off).

 

I feel a bit uneasy about invading the private personal space of the escort. I know many uys do "in" service (interestingly, I ONLY go to masseurs who see me at their place but hesitate for an escort... strange??)

 

I have been playing tag with a guy I like a LOT but recently had to stop by his place to see him briefly - nice, neat, smal apartment, but he has a house pet, and I am allergic to such so.... Another guy I would love to see for extended time lives with his roomate/partner and I am not so interested in him so I cannot imagine his roomate out on the street for the night. (On that, some years ago I went back and forth between two really HOT M. Lucas models who shared an apartment with a third guy, high strung and nutty. Whenever one or the other had a client they advertized as masseurs - the others had to sit out on the street, even in the dead of winter, until the client left. I found this very hard to swallow but it was a 1-room apartment with the minimum of amenities.)

 

Anyway I would be more open to the overnight price of $1000 if I was being entertained IN at the escort's p[lace but that is a boundary one rarely is able to cross and usually demands a LOT of mutual respect - that one or the other is not snooping, which is why I never invite an escort to my home (except for a very small handful who I have grown to trust, and who even have had the run of my place when I was away).

[BostonPhil]

It does take quite a level of comfort to do. It is not something I would do for just any person. Even when I am on an hour call at some one's home I get uneasy if I am left alone for any amount of time. I always try to look at the art on the walls but sometimes that looks funny if you're just standing there in your undies. Then there are the times where there is no art but only family photographs...

 

I also have a co-dependent cat who thinks he's a dog. He is like having a 10 kid. And now for the 17 pictures of my cat being cute. Oh wait, no. I kid.

[JT Brooklyn]

In at 9 PM Out at 8 AM of course being Fed Dinner & Breakfast can move the Hours around!

 

I would imagnine only a Repeat Client the Working Guy feels very comfortable with would be OK for an Incall Overnite! There are those WG'S who donot do Incalls simply because it keeps their Personal Life that much more Personal..No Home Address! But Outside Major Markets all rules can change..

[Guest Merlin155]

I would think that not all clients are wealthy. Why wouldn't the in/out be tailored to the individual client who is a regular? I agree with Brooklyn Guy 9pm to 8am sounds reasonable!