Fin Fang Foom On The Tom Cruise Lawsuit

[ad rian]

It's too bad that Bradford did not reply because it would have made for fun discovery on Point 5. You are right, there is just an assertion, not even an affidavit appended to support the assertion that he "is not and never has been a homosexual". It would have made for some nice questions about whether Mr. Cruise's ever engaged in homosexual acts with anyone other than Mr. Bradford. I also think it interesting that the Claim repeats in Points 2 and 6 that he respects the "right of others to follow their own sexual preference" as opposed to "orientation". Isn't this written in a very Clintonian way? Isn't it parsed just a little too closely.I sure hope nobody comes forward with credible eveience to the contrary for Tom's sake as, Kyle just might be able to flip him over and wrtestle him to the ground!

[Guest Les]

It never crossed my mind that Tom was gay until he sued this unknown actor over a rumor most people had not heard thus bringing it to the worlds attention. Now I do wonder!!?? :7

[woodlawn]

>It never crossed my mind that Tom was gay until he sued this

>unknown actor over a rumor most people had not heard thus

>bringing it to the worlds attention. Now I do wonder!!??

 

 

Please! Rumors about Cruise's sexual orientation have been circulating since he first became a star, almost twenty years ago. I know of no one who has ever come forward with any evidence to support those rumors. They seem to have about as much substance and to arise from the same motives as the assertion, made a few years ago, that Beethoven was of African ancestry.

[Guest alanm]

Cruise should follow Keanu's example

 

In the mid 90s the interent was full of Keanu Reeves gay rumors. He behaved very differently than Cruise. Keanu did not sue anyone, did not find it necessary to get married or even show up at premiers and benefits with a date. Keanu had denied that he is gay ("not that there is anything wrong with it"), but otherwise has been very low key.

 

Whatever his sexuality, I respect Keanu. Cruise is another matter.

Why would you call attention to your sexuality in such a way by sueing

someone? A someone who obviously is not going to pay you $10,000,000.

Also, He jumped from the Kidman marriage right into a relationship with Penelope Cruz. It is very difficult not to believe that his motivation is to stop all the gay rumors, but Tom is going about it in all the wrong ways.

 

If someone ever steps forward and provides proof that he had sex with Cruise, Tom is going to look like an idiot.

[woodlawn]

RE: Cruise should follow Keanu's example

 

>Keanu did not

>sue anyone, did not find it necessary to get married or even

>show up at premiers and benefits with a date.

 

Why do you say "find it necessary" to get married? What reason do you have for thinking that Cruise got married for any motive other than that he wanted to? Or for thinking that his relationship with Cruz is based on anything other than that he likes her? And if someone falsely claimed to have had a sexual relationship with Cruise, why shouldn't he exercise the same legal right that everyone has to sue for defamation? It seems that no matter what he does you will interpret it as proof that the rumors about him are true.

 

>If someone ever steps forward and provides proof that he had

>sex with Cruise, Tom is going to look like an idiot.

 

And what if no one ever does? Will all the people who believed those rumors then look like idiots? Suppose he really is and always has been a heterosexual. What would he have to do to stop people from saying otherwise?

[Guest alanm]

RE: Cruise should follow Keanu's example

 

Cruise opened the door for speculation about his marriage to Kidman and relationship with Cruz by filing the law suit.

 

There is speculation about the sexual otientation of nearly every leading man in Hollywood, Cruise is one of the very few who pursued the issue to a court decision.

 

Few people would have eben known about the porn star's story, if Cruise had not called attention to it by sueing. But, you are certainly free to have your own opinion, which is just as valid as mine.

[Flower]

RE: Cruise should follow Keanu's example

 

> What reason do you have for thinking that Cruise got married for

>any motive other than that he wanted to?

 

>Or for thinking that his relationship with Cruz is based on anything other than

>that he likes her?

 

And if someone falsely claimed to have had

>a sexual relationship with Cruise, why shouldn't he exercise

>the same legal right that everyone has to sue for defamation?

>It seems that no matter what he does you will interpret it as

>proof that the rumors about him are true.

 

>And what if no one ever does(proove they had sex with him)?

>Will all the people who believed those rumors then look like idiots? >>> >>Suppose he really is and always has been a heterosexual. What would he

>have to do to stop people from saying otherwise?

 

Those are good questions Wood. You should have seen these big MOs cluck about here when the law suit was filed.

 

I have never understood why old queens especially like to gossip and speculate (without an iota of evidence, btw) about the possibility that someone VGL, rich and famous is gay--it's like, it maybe gives them an identity at last--actually that's kinda sad. :-(

 

I'm glad there are a few thinking folks like you here to give balance--but then you probably have a life outside of this board :+

[Guest Love Bubble Butt]

Kyle Bradford claimed that he had a "continuing homosexual affair with Tom Cruise and that this affair was discovered by Mr. Cruise's wife, leading to their divorce."

 

The reason for their divorce has never been made public. But Kyle Bradford claims his affair with Cruise was the reason. I think a false claim like this, whether it be a homosexual or heterosexual affair, can be damaging to a major star's career. And the fact that Cruise is a "leading man" actor, the homosexual aspect of this claim, right or wrong, can have an even more adverse affect on his career. So Cruise had every right to sue this mother fucker. And I applaud him for it.

 

Because actors like Keannu Reeves let these claims go unchalleneged, I think it only encourages losers like this Bradford guy to make up these kinds of claims. I suspect that someone will now think twice about making a false claim about Tom Cruise in the future.

 

Now I don't know if Tom Cruise is gay or not. And I don't think it's anybody's business but his. But if he is gay, and someone he has sex with spills the beans ... then shit happens. But if someone makes false claims, claims that can be damaging to his career, he has absolutely every right to sue. Even if he risks making things worse by suing. I personally admire him for not putting up with this shit. }(

[Luv2play]

On the other hand, Tom Cruise is a public figure, he has put himself forward as a leading hetersexual male actor, and his relationships with women look a little contrived (except by Hollywood standards). But of course, it is Hollywood which dictates that if you are gay, better hush it up if you want to continue big in the boxoffice department. Soooo, who knows, maybe he is, maybe not. But it is fair game to speculate, since he long ago gave up any claim to privacy. That's the price of being a STAR, didn'y ya know?:-(

[ad rian]

>They seem to have about as

>much substance and to arise from the same motives as the

>assertion, made a few years ago, that Beethoven was of African

>ancestry.

 

In that case, Cruise must be gay because Ludwig's mama was a mulatte. BTW, the government of West Germany in the 1970s issued a stamp depicting him as he really looked, which aptly shows why Hayden called him the "Moor".

[Guest fukamarine]

>Kyle Bradford claimed that he had a "continuing homosexual

>affair with Tom Cruise and that this affair was discovered by

>Mr. Cruise's wife, leading to their divorce."

 

I don't know a great deal about the details of the case but two things leap to mind.

 

(1) I think TC has every right to sue if it's not true. But to sue for, or to be awarded 10 Mil seems just plain stupid. It shifts the whole thing from the plausible to the ridiculous.

 

(2) KB must be a very ballsy loonie to have tried to out TC, whether what he said was true or false. What did he think he would gain?

 

>The reason for their divorce has never been made public. But

>Kyle Bradford claims his affair with Cruise was the reason.

 

Wouldn't this claim be more plausable if it was Kidman who broke it up. The way I recall, it was TC who announced to her it was over.

 

fukamarine

[Guest fukamarine]

>It never crossed my mind that Tom was gay

 

You really should have your Gaydar serviced...... It's on the fritz, honey!

 

fukamarine

[Guest fukamarine]

RE: Cruise should follow Keanu's example

 

>In the mid 90s the interent was full of Keanu Reeves gay

>rumors. He behaved very differently than Cruise. Keanu did not

>sue anyone, did not find it necessary to get married or even

>show up at premiers and benefits with a date. Keanu had denied

>that he is gay ("not that there is anything wrong with it"),

>but otherwise has been very low key.

 

The thing that always puzzled me about the KR rumours is that he has admitted that he was for quite some time, a "room mate" of River Phoenix.

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

 

fukamarine

[Guest fukamarine]

IF TC is gay (or bi for that matter) and likes to have either a regular fling, or an occasional one, with a guy, and wants to maintain his straight image for business purposes, then I really feel sorry for him.

 

How could he possible find a partner he could hook up with, without the fear that he would be outed? The temptation to sell the story to the tabloids - who would pay huge bucks for the story (especilly if there was photographic proof) would be overwhelming. And there is also the possibility of blackmail. TC would be between a rock and a hard place, IMHO.

 

fukamarine

[Guest Les]

>It never crossed my mind that Tom was gay

 

 

Actually woodlawn and fukamarine...I lied! http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/contrib/ruinkai/biggrinangelA.gif

[Guest Bitchboy]

And some of you guys had the nerve to criticize Boys in the Band. This is all so 1970's. Who cares?

[Guest RetrdEscrt]

Believe me Tom Cruises sexual preferences have abeen an open secret in Hollyweird for years ...The main question you have to ask yourself is why is he so litigious,he takes action against the most silly of rumors and his attorney asserted again that he will sue if the slightest rumor does surface which in my book gets the alarm bells clanging straight away.

 

For someone like TC and the money and power he commands it's pretty easy to hide whatever skeletons you desire from public gaze and portray yourself as 100% hetero stud-muffin for the adoring (straight)masses that make up most of his fan-base.

 

He's not the only one rumors have flown about over the years as other posters have said but he's the one that the rumors have stuck to for the longest time-Weird No? ,and all the hoopla over who couldn't have kids when he was with Nicole ,hmmmm it would be interesting to see if she falls pregnant when she finds a new beau.

 

Hollywood is a place where if you are gay you play straight whether you are in front or behind the camera,BELIEVE me i have had clients from both sides of the camera and its just not the actors etc who are scared of the knock at the door from the Enquirer or Hard Copy the further you go up the chain the same neuroses are there it's just the closets are bigger and more expensive.

[Guest DickHo]

"Suspiciatedly"

 

Is this a new word? Is it the same as "suspiciously "?

[Guest Love Bubble Butt]

You're right. I hadn't thought of that. His claim doesn't jive with what we do know anout their break up. Not very smart of him.

[Guest Love Bubble Butt]

I totally agree that it's fair game to "speculate" about or ask questions of public figures. It absolutely goes with the territory.

 

But I still feel there's a big difference between speculating/raising questions of public figures and making an explicit and public statement that you know to be false that could be damaging to one's career. When someone does the latter, it's also fair game for them to be sued and held accountable for their actions.

 

On a side note:

Isn't it sad that we still live in a society where it is considered an insult to be called gay; that public figures are "accused" of being gay; that many people feel it necessary to have to "defend" themselves against the accusation of being gay. That people can even have their careers damaged or destroyed as a result. We've come a long way; but we obviously still have a long way to go.

[Guest alanm]

RE: Cruise should follow Keanu's example

 

Nice try. But, I went out of my way to give Keanu Reeves as a positive example of someone who has been the subject of the same kind of rumors that Cruise is facing. As I said, I really admire Keanu for the way he has handled the rumors over the years. What does it say about Cruise's and Hollywood's feeling about being gay that Cruise would sue someone for such a large amount of money. Perhaps Reeves is not quite in Cruise's league as a leading man, but the rumors about Keanu did not hurt the box office revenues for SPEED or THE MATRIX. He even starred in a film with strong gay overtones (MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO) and another with more subtle gay overtones (POINT BREAK).

[Guest Kenguy]

This whole thing is as interesting as all the speculation about George Bush's relationship with Broderick Crawford (few people seem to know that they once shared a small apartment with W. H. Auden and Joan Crawford). FORGET IT!

[BewareofNick]

RE: Oh, Lee!!!

 

The last person who went this far with litigation was Liberace, and we all know how that turned out

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>"Suspiciatedly"

>

>Is this a new word? Is it the same as "suspiciously "?

 

I coined it in my "FIN FANG FOOM WANT TO EVERYBODY....." Bruno Gaucho parody thread. Feel free to use it - royalty free.

 

Generously yours,

 

FFF

[Guest countryboy76]

If anyone is interested Liberace sued some London newspapers in the 1950s and won 100,000 dollars for them even 'implying' that he was gay. So all I can say is that sometimes the biggest denial turns out to be the biggest admission.

 

CB76:)