Don't Eat the HotDog !

[jjkrkwood]

Not THAT hotdog silly !. A real, Oscar Mayer hotdog...

 

Todays health news reports are that eatting hotdogs, or ANY processed meat products increases your liklihood of colerectal Cancers.

 

Take away our Wieners ? Whats next ? Soon life wont be worth living !

 

OK, ill just have to stick with Meatballs....... :o

[Decatur Guy]

I'm glad my ultrafussy stomach does the controlling for me. Otherwise, I'd eat hot dogs two or three times a week. As it is, I eat them once or twice a month. I think that's OK. Same with fried chicken, my true weakness.

[jjkrkwood]

I'm glad my ultrafussy stomach does the controlling for me. Otherwise, I'd eat hot dogs two or three times a week. As it is, I eat them once or twice a month. I think that's OK. Same with fried chicken, my true weakness.

 

If you get to NYC DG, ill treat you to Popeyes or Churchs for Fried chicken. (and a biscuit) DELISH !

[jgoo]

I absolutely love a good hot dog. I've always known they aren't the best for a healthy diet so I follow the rule of moderation. I sample different hot dogs whenever I see them on a menu. My go to favorites are chili dogs and kraut dogs, preferably from a street vendor on a beautiful spring or summer day. I also enjoy something called a Caesar Dog I discovered a number of years ago at a Disney park.

[jjkrkwood]

I absolutely love a good hot dog. I've always known they aren't the best for a healthy diet so I follow the rule of moderation. I sample different hot dogs whenever I see them on a menu. My go to favorites are chili dogs and kraut dogs, preferably from a street vendor on a beautiful spring or summer day. I also enjoy something called a Caesar Dog I discovered a number of years ago at a Disney park.

 

 

I always stick with Kosher hot dogs, as they say they are prepared "By a Higher Power". However the Sabrett hotdogs that Papaya King in NYC has is orgasmic. Mustard, kraut AND onions. And bun MUST be toasted. How can something that tastes so good, be so Bad for you ?

[Guest]

I always stick with Kosher hot dogs, as they say they are prepared "By a Higher Power". However the Sabrett hotdogs that Papaya King in NYC has is orgasmic. Mustard, kraut AND onions. And bun MUST be toasted. How can something that tastes so good, be so Bad for you ?

 

I'm not religious, but this is definitely an example in which kosher is better.

[Epigonos]

My idea of a great lunch, now and then, is a hot dog and drink at COSTCO after I have finished my shopping. You can't beat the price and the excellent quality.

 

At 71 I ABSOLUTELY refuse to have my eating habits changed by, what I consider, a bunch of busybody food Nazis. My sincere hope is that I die in my sleep after a hot dog lunch and a blood rare steak dinner. In some school in this country the authorities are not allowing students to bring lunches from home. They are convinced that they know better what the students should and should not eat -- they might but where do the rights of parents begin and end. Some health food "reformers" have suggest that all foods containing sugar carry health hazard warnings a la cigarette packs. Talk about the dawning of the "1984 Society".

[wayout]

Finally a thread that I can sink my teeth into

 

The mortal sin of hot dog eating is apparently to have it with ketchup.

 

http://www.amazingribs.com/images/recipes/no_ketchup.jpg

 

[video=youtube;F5JIpT4GkyM]

[jjkrkwood]

Finally a thread that I can sink my teeth into

 

The mortal sin of hot dog eating is apparently to have it with ketchup.

 

http://www.amazingribs.com/images/recipes/no_ketchup.jpg

 

[video=youtube;F5JIpT4GkyM]

 

I Agree. NEVER ketsup on dogs. Thats relegated to Burgers ONLY....

[jgoo]

My idea of a great lunch, now and then, is a hot dog and drink at COSTCO after I have finished my shopping. You can't beat the price and the excellent quality.

 

At 71 I ABSOLUTELY refuse to have my eating habits changed by, what I consider, a bunch of busybody food Nazis. My sincere hope is that I die in my sleep after a hot dog lunch and a blood rare steak dinner. In some school in this country the authorities are not allowing students to bring lunches from home. They are convinced that they know better what the students should and should not eat -- they might but where do the rights of parents begin and end. Some health food "reformers" have suggest that all foods containing sugar carry health hazard warnings a la cigarette packs. Talk about the dawning of the "1984 Society".

 

I agree completely with everything you say here, especially about a great lunch is a Costco (or Sam's club) hot dog.

[jjkrkwood]

I agree completely with everything you say here, especially about a great lunch is a Costco (or Sam's club) hot dog.

 

 

 

A close second would be the swedish meatballs at IKEA....

[seeker630]

I Agree. NEVER ketsup on dogs. Thats relegated to Burgers ONLY....

 

Amen!

[+ deej]

I Agree. NEVER ketsup on dogs. Thats relegated to Burgers ONLY....

 

I rarely use ketchup at all. I still use it on meatloaf (something from my childhood), but I far prefer tomato paste doctored with what *I* want in it for most other uses. Ketchup has too much sugar in it for my taste.

[Guest]

My idea of a great lunch, now and then, is a hot dog and drink at COSTCO after I have finished my shopping. You can't beat the price and the excellent quality.

 

At 71 I ABSOLUTELY refuse to have my eating habits changed by, what I consider, a bunch of busybody food Nazis. My sincere hope is that I die in my sleep after a hot dog lunch and a blood rare steak dinner. In some school in this country the authorities are not allowing students to bring lunches from home. They are convinced that they know better what the students should and should not eat -- they might but where do the rights of parents begin and end. Some health food "reformers" have suggest that all foods containing sugar carry health hazard warnings a la cigarette packs. Talk about the dawning of the "1984 Society".

 

I can see that it's not your job to be medically responsible for these obese children, who end up getting diabetes before their 30th birthday. Well, that happens to be my job. Of course, adults have the right to make their own decisions, as long as they accept the responsibility of their decisions. This responsibility should include, in my opinion, taxes on foods which would go to help defray the costs of the consequences of the decisions (dialysis, disability/job loss, etc.). However, I believe that a civilized society has a responsibility to protect children. I work with indigent families, and the hardest part of my job is witnessing the horrid consequences on the health of innocent children due to the parental neglect of their children's health needs. In many instances, I feel quite helpless, because the government refuses to place these children in foster care even in extreme cases in which the children actually develop heart failure! So I'm in favor to do what we can to help children. One of the most successful steps we have taken is to limit the options in vending machines in schools around the country.

[Epigonos]

Unicorn you state, “I believe that a civilized society has a responsibility to protect children”. When it comes to deciding what my child should and should not eat I have a hell of a lot more faith in my decision making process than that of some Sacramento or Washington bureaucrat who might well be a paid off wh-re of one food producer or another. The greater the distance one has from a problem the less likely the decision made will be relevant. Following your logic we might want to consider removing all children from their family homes so the government can raise them properly in boarding schools where they are taught to eat and to live like the government thinks they should. I happen to agree with the old adage that “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”.

[+ deej]

Unicorn you state, “I believe that a civilized society has a responsibility to protect children”. When it comes to deciding what my child should and should not eat I have a hell of a lot more faith in my decision making process than that of some Sacramento or Washington bureaucrat who might well be a paid off wh-re of one food producer or another. The greater the distance one has from a problem the less likely the decision made will be relevant. Following your logic we might want to consider removing all children from their family homes so the government can raise them properly in boarding schools where they are taught to eat and to live like the government thinks they should. I happen to agree with the old adage that “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”.

 

This entire discussion, WORD FOR WORD, happened when I was in high school. (Yes, back when dirt was new.)

 

The kerfuffle back then was whether or not to allow PepsiCo and Coca Cola to have vending machines in school cafeterias. PepsiCo and Coca Cola won, and we had sodas available when I was in HS. The machines had to be serviced daily because every kid in the school had a Coke or Pepsi instead of any other option.

 

The generation that didn't have sodas in the cafeteria didn't have so many problems with obesity and diabetes. The generation that DID have sodas in the cafeteria is altogether not doing so well. It isn't exactly cause & effect, but it does point out that there MIGHT be a role in regulating what kids have available at school.

 

I'm not in favor of Big Brother, but I"m also not willing to "Never Say Never".

[Samai139]

I try to stay away not only from hot dogs and processed meats but all red meat. My dad died of colo-rectal cancer at 72 and I believe his life-long diet had a lot to do with that, as well as ignoring warning signs and not knowing about colonoscopies. As a result, I schedule regular physical exams, have had several coloscopies, and do my best to watch for any signs of changes in bowel movements, etc. That's probably more information than most of you need, so I'll shut up.

 

I have no children and therefore will not tell others how to raise theirs including what to feed them. I'm grateful that there are people who are willing to take on that responsibility and wish them well. As for those who feel they must decide what is best for others, hopefully they can look into a full-length mirror, naked, and feel satisfied that they follow their own directives.

 

The latest medical news seems to indicate that a daily regimen of low mg aspirin can help reduce the risk of certain types of cancer, including colo-rectal cancer. But before embarking on such a regimen, you should consult your MD--he/she will know if you are at risk of intestinal bleeding or other side-effects. But of course this may very well change with the publication of another study. stay tuned and stay well.

[healthguy]

Ok, now everyone has been around long enough to have heard the story about throwing a hot dog in a land fill. You could go back 100 years later and because of the Nitrites used as a preservative, you could still grill it up and eat it!!! So again, lots of info on this chemical to Google to keep you busy for years. It has been related to numerous cancerous related issues, and now most recently, COPD problems. It is used in many of our meats as a preservative along with salt to starve off botulism and give red meat its great red color! It is used in many of the meats we get from the deli as well for the same purpose. I can understand the concern the Unicorn had with our children in the US. One of my children has been responsible to the elimination of sugared drinks from school vending machines, and other healthy choices at school breakfasts, and lunches. But, we could also spend many hours of posts, about changing behaviors and lifestyles to accomplish this goal. Sooo, back to the hot dog. I love um, but along with processed meats, I really try to limit them in my life. When my oldest two children were little, hot dogs, and Mac an Cheese were a frequent lunch item. My son now will say if he ever gets a brain Ca, he will do the blame game on me. And, when I was a kid, my mother worked in a factory. Hot and sweaty job in the summer. She would stop at a passing drive in, and pick up "10 dogs for a buck." So spend a little time looking up Nitrates, NO3, and Nitrites, NO2. It is one of those chemical I try to limit. And, when you heat them up, like crispy bacon, it increases the concentration and chemical structure to a not so good thing. AND, what's a dog without ketsup??? You people.

[Guest]

Unicorn you state, “I believe that a civilized society has a responsibility to protect children”. When it comes to deciding what my child should and should not eat I have a hell of a lot more faith in my decision making process than that of some Sacramento or Washington bureaucrat who might well be a paid off wh-re of one food producer or another. The greater the distance one has from a problem the less likely the decision made will be relevant. Following your logic we might want to consider removing all children from their family homes so the government can raise them properly in boarding schools where they are taught to eat and to live like the government thinks they should. I happen to agree with the old adage that “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”.

 

Children are not inanimate pieces of property to do with as one wishes. Are you saying that the government should never interfere with parental rights under any circumstances? Should parents be able to beat children to a pulp and break their bones because parents always know how to raise their children better than "some Sacramento or Washington bureaucrat"? Right now, of course, yours is the prevailing view, because I don't think there has been a single case of a child going to foster care because its parents were being neglectful diet-wise, even when the diet is unquestionably killing the child. I think that should change (in extreme circumstances, of course). And certainly, when the child is on public property (i.e. public schools paid for with tax dollars), the government should not add to a child's nutritional burdens.

[jjkrkwood]

I think governments responsibility is to provide INFORMATION, however its the parents responsibilty to make decisions for, and Raise their own children...

[Epigonos]

Unicorn wouldn’t it be wonderful if there were “simple” solutions to “complex” problems. Physical abuse is readily identifiable. Dietary abuse is not. You state that you believe that children should be removed from their homes in the case of “extreme dietary” abuse. The problem here is who is to determine the definition of what constitutes “extreme dietary abuse”.

 

A number of years ago government sponsored studies determined that the consumption of eggs constituted a major health hazard. Eggs were supposedly leading to major increased levels of cholesterol, hardening of the arteries and heart attacks. There was a major campaign to eliminate eggs from the diet. The campaign was highly successful. More recent research indicates that these earlier studies were not “all together” accurate. The current accepted belief is that moderate consumption of eggs is not the “killer” it was earlier believed to be.

 

The key word in everything we do should be moderation. Consuming a hot dog, a soda, potato chips, and a candy bar now and then isn’t likely to prove fatal to the vast majority of children and of adults. One must also “always” keep in mind that today’s research isn’t always foolproof. Simply because government studies indicate something is true today doesn’t guarantee that it will indicate the same thing tomorrow.

[gallahadesquire]

Ok, now everyone has been around long enough to have heard the story about throwing a hot dog in a land fill. You could go back 100 years later and because of the Nitrites used as a preservative, you could still grill it up and eat it!!! So again, lots of info on this chemical to Google to keep you busy for years. It has been related to numerous cancerous related issues, and now most recently, COPD problems. It is used in many of our meats as a preservative along with salt to starve off botulism and give red meat its great red color! It is used in many of the meats we get from the deli as well for the same purpose. I can understand the concern the Unicorn had with our children in the US. One of my children has been responsible to the elimination of sugared drinks from school vending machines, and other healthy choices at school breakfasts, and lunches. But, we could also spend many hours of posts, about changing behaviors and lifestyles to accomplish this goal. Sooo, back to the hot dog. I love um, but along with processed meats, I really try to limit them in my life. When my oldest two children were little, hot dogs, and Mac an Cheese were a frequent lunch item. My son now will say if he ever gets a brain Ca, he will do the blame game on me. And, when I was a kid, my mother worked in a factory. Hot and sweaty job in the summer. She would stop at a passing drive in, and pick up "10 dogs for a buck." So spend a little time looking up Nitrates, NO3, and Nitrites, NO2. It is one of those chemical I try to limit. And, when you heat them up, like crispy bacon, it increases the concentration and chemical structure to a not so good thing. AND, what's a dog without ketsup??? You people.

 

You forgot N2O - the beloved Nitrous Oxide, a.k.a. Laughing Gas!

[Steven_Draker]

That's the billboard ad that caused controversy.

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zzDphrOiUAo/T2Cwn_udJGI/AAAAAAAAgVQ/QoDXZUm7tiI/s400/hot%2Bdogs.jpg

 

I avoid hot dogs and sausages of any sort because I never know what they stuff inside.

 

Give me some grilled chicken breast anytime of the day.

[jjkrkwood]

That's the billboard ad that caused controversy.[/color]

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zzDphrOiUAo/T2Cwn_udJGI/AAAAAAAAgVQ/QoDXZUm7tiI/s400/hot%2Bdogs.jpg

 

I avoid hot dogs and sausages of any sort because I never know what they stuff inside.

 

Give me some grilled chicken breast anytime of the day.

 

I truly believe that part of the fun in eatting the hotdog is its SHAPE, and the subliminal fantasy it evokes. Or maybe thats just my cocksucker mind speaking? Either way, if you enjoy hotdogs, eatting one occassionally will do you NO harm,.

[+ deej]

Right now, of course, yours is the prevailing view, because I don't think there has been a single case of a child going to foster care because its parents were being neglectful diet-wise, even when the diet is unquestionably killing the child.

 

There was a case in the news just last week where a 13-year old boy was kept locked in a bathroom for days on end. He weighed 70 pounds. The child's removal from the home was covered, but the final resolution will never be known.

 

The stories happen routinely, but there's less flash and bang in them than Etch-a-sketch stories so our media under-covers them.