Cut vs Uncut

[+ imagooddog]

I am one who definitely prefers cut rather than uncut. I have always wondered if there are certain countries or religions where circumcision is more likely to be found. I know that the Jewish religion practices it (or they used to).

[adriano46]

You will find the same in many Arabic (Muslim) countries and some other places in southeast Asia.

[+ azdr0710]

a much-debated topic....and it seems more of the population is going toward uncut to avoid any semblance of "mutilation".....but being a good ol' all-American dude, I'm cut....and I gotta say when I see an uncut dude, it reminds me of some National Geographic article and pictures about some primitive African tribe!!....

[Epigonos]

It is interesting to note that up until about twenty five years ago the vast majority of ALL newborn males in the United States were circumcised. With the major influx of Latin American influenced parents that has become less the case. I would still venture that the majority of Anglo American male newborns are still circumcised although the percentage of the total newborns has dropped.

[corndog]

Oddly, I think that circumcision is an antiquated, barbaric act. However, I prefer cut cock. I guess I just feel like I relate better.

[Lohengrin1979]

None of the men in my family are circumcised. I didn't see an circumcised penis until I was 17. I still do a slight double take when I see cut guys. It's just not what I grew up with. My dad is Spanish and I'm told the argument between he and my mother before my birth regarding circumcision were epic.

 

Lohengrin

[trilingual]

Getting back to the original question: Both Judaism and Islam call for circumcision, so you'll find almost all Jewish and Muslim men are circumcised. That means you should have a great time in Israel and in any Islamic country (although, of course, you will have to be very discreet because of the homophobia in all of the Islamic countries). Some African ethnic groups also practice circumcision, and now there's a drive in Africa to increase circumcision as a means of reducing HIV transmission. So there are a lot of circumcised Africans. All in all, that should give you at least a billion men to choose from!

[Samai139]

Trilingual, thanks for your succint summary of where circumcision is common. I was put off by the comment about "primitive African tribes" and you dealt with that very diplomatically. Circumcision among many African men is/was a pre-requisite to becoming an adult in their society and hence to get married, as was female circumcision. I won't get into the swirling controversy that female circumcision is experiencing in the world today.

Can we assume that in cultures where Judaism, Islam or Western influence is limited, men are likely to be uncut? I am thinking of China, Japan, India. What about Native Americans? Europeans, at least Christian Europeans, seem to be more likely to be uncut than Americans---anyone know why?

[JT Brooklyn]

This question of "Cut or Uncut" has come up many times over the Year's going back to HOOBOY Days. I'm thinking Google may have some answers on the questions other than whose preference is what?

 

Personally I rarely go with Uncut..I like the Growing Mushroom Look myself! Me no like home grown cheese!

[Bob]

Getting cut

 

To move in a different direction, has anyone been circumcised as an adult? I an uncut and have always wished otherwise. On my bucket list so to speak. Should I follow through how do I proceed? Is it expensive? Are you happy with your decision?

[Samai139]

Brooklynguy--thanks for the suggestion about going to Goggle. Did that and then to Wikipedia, where there is a breakdown by country of the prevalence of circumcision amongst men. Highest percentages are in countries where Islam is the predominant religion and in the USA,Israel, S.Korea, the Philippines. Lowest in parts of Asia which are non-Muslim---e.g. China, India. Also low in Europe and Latin America, Sourthern Africa and in many parts of Canada, which surprised me.

[+ azdr0710]

hey Samai....sincere apologies if my "African tribe" comment bothered you....was a bit of a joke because of all those Nat Geo pics we looked at as kids....thanks for your research in the post above....good to know

[gp0560]

To move in a different direction, has anyone been circumcised as an adult? I an uncut and have always wished otherwise. On my bucket list so to speak. Should I follow through how do I proceed? Is it expensive? Are you happy with your decision?

 

I'm curious, too. I've read several places that uncut guys experience greater sexual pleasure than cut guys. One man who was circumcised as an adult said that his sexual pleasure diminished by about two-thirds. How one measures that is unclear to me. In any case, the reduced pleasure appears to result from the loss of a lot of sensitive nerve endings.

 

So .... Bob, if you decide to go ahead, we commission you to report back with all the details. OK?

 

--Jerry

[+ azdr0710]

just a guess here, but since many religious rituals and "revelations" have their origins in everyday practical situations, I think circumcision became a common practice because it lessened sexual pleasure....the presence of foreskin rubbing against the head was evidently too tempting a pleasure to have available, so it was decreed that circumcision would become the norm....similar to the church originally frowning upon sex in general not because of morals and manners but because of the rampant spread of STDs in the early days

 

(please correct me if I have any of this horribly wrong!)

[+ glutes]

any foreskin nibblers out there?? JJJerkWood?

 

And God said to Abraham: "As for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you shall be circumcised; and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.

 

He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised, every male child in your generations, he who is born in your house or bought with money from any stranger who is not your descendant. He who is born in your house and he who is bought with your money must be circumcised, and My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

 

And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.

(Gen. 17:9-14 NKJ)

[+ glutes]

And maybe there's another interesting detail to add. Most cut men need lube to jack off. With a foreskin, the foreskin slides over the head easily and there's no need for lube.

 

That is lovely Anton, it is what God gave you.

 

That said, would you permit a client nibbling on said foreskin??

[trilingual]

Hate to puncture the myths, but I'm circumcised and have never felt that I had diminished sensitivity. Nor have I ever needed lube to masturbate. Penises are chock-full of nerve-endings and more than capable of providing sexual pleasure with or without a foreskin. I have known several guys who were circumcised as adults and they reported no noticeable decrease in sensitivity after the procedure. They also said it was not an especially big deal and that there was not much post-surgery pain and that recovery was pretty quick and painless. (Of course, you have to try to avoid getting an erection for a few days.)

[JT Brooklyn]

To move in a different direction, has anyone been circumcised as an adult? I an uncut and have always wished otherwise. On my bucket list so to speak. Should I follow through how do I proceed? Is it expensive? Are you happy with your decision?[/quote

 

For some guys I have known Unless Procedures have changed it can be Damn Painful and Uncomfortable as an Adult or even Young Adult to have the procedure.

[kjun]

I'm uncut but for many years I more enjoyed guys with cut rather than uncut penises. After living in Asia for several years, I couldn't care less. Strangely there are some Asians who are circumcised. None of them have been able to tell me why their parents did this.

[Samai139]

"oldtimer"--thank you for explaining your comment---I don't always see the humorous angle in posts and need to be reminded that a poster's intent was benign and not derogatory. I tend to be overly sensitive about remarks about Africa and Africans---spent most of my adult life in West Africa----and over react at times. Glad we can have give and take here without rancour. Have a great day.

[EZEtoGRU]

I am happy playing with cut or uncut as long as it is big. However, I prefer uncut. I am a strong believer in leaving things as nature intended. Obviously there can be medical motivations for circumcision which are totally understandable. I can't imagine doing a circumcision simply based on aesthetics. But to each his own.

[gallahadesquire]

To WHom It May Concern:

 

Ever get you penis caught in your zipper? Enough said. Unless there is a strong medical indication (like recurrent phimosis, or recurrent infections), there's no reason to get it done. And why sacrifice what you've got for sensitivity for the unknown?

Back to thinking inside the box now.

[mansniffing]

FROM THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

A two-week old boy died at a Brooklyn hospital in September after contracting herpes through a religious circumcision ritual that ignited controversy in 2005 after another infant died, the Daily News has learned.

The unidentified infant died Sept. 28, 2011, at Maimonides Hospital, according to a spokeswoman for the city Medical Examiner, who confirmed the death after a News inquiry.

The cause of death was listed as “disseminated herpes simplex virus Type 1, complicating ritual circumcision with oral suction.”

City officials declined to comment Friday.

It’s unclear who performed the circumcision.

In 2004, city health officials revealed that a baby boy died after a circumcision carried out by a Rockland County rabbi who specializes in the centuries-old, ultra-Orthodox ritual known as metzizah b’ peh.

Under the practice, the rabbi or mohel removes blood from the wound with his mouth — a practice city health officials have criticized, saying it carried “inherent risks” for babies.

In 2004, three infants circumcised by Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer were determined to have contracted herpes, city officials said.

Among them were twins circumcised in October 2004 after Fischer performed the religious ceremony known as a bris.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/infant-death-maimonides-hospital-linked-circumcision-article-1.1032432#ixzz1oeNXcmZA

[Guest]

I'm curious, too. I've read several places that uncut guys experience greater sexual pleasure than cut guys. One man who was circumcised as an adult said that his sexual pleasure diminished by about two-thirds. How one measures that is unclear to me. In any case, the reduced pleasure appears to result from the loss of a lot of sensitive nerve endings.

 

So .... Bob, if you decide to go ahead, we commission you to report back with all the details. OK?

 

--Jerry

 

Several places? Would you mind providing a link to just one of those places? I suspect that the only references you'll find are from unscientific sources with an "axe to grind" against circumcision. As most of us who have penises know perfectly well, the "sensitive nerve endings" involved in sensual pleasure are located on the glans of the penis, not on the foreskin. Circumcision has no effect on these "sensitive nerve endings." I actually do a urology clinic one half-day per week (working with a urologist), and have met plenty of men who were circumcised either as late teens or adults. I have NEVER met a single patient who said that sexual pleasure was less after circumcision. It is also true, although perhaps a bit unfair for me to say, that I've had multiple patients tell me the opposite. The reason that it's unfair, of course, is that the circumcisions are often done due to disease of the foreskin.

There are lots of medical conditions which are less common in circumcised men than in uncut men. Whether the risks of routine circumcision outweigh the risks of remaining uncircumcised is certainly an issue in which reasonable people can disagree. We do not, for example, routinely remove the appendix of all children, even though it would clearly eliminate the worry of appendicitis. Of course, an appendectomy is a far riskier procedure than circumcision. That being said, anyone who argues that there is NO reason to do a circumcision in infants is either deluded or intentionally bullshitting.

[gp0560]

Several places? Would you mind providing a link to just one of those places? I suspect that the only references you'll find are from unscientific sources with an "axe to grind" against circumcision. As most of us who have penises know perfectly well, the "sensitive nerve endings" involved in sensual pleasure are located on the glans of the penis, not on the foreskin. Circumcision has no effect on these "sensitive nerve endings." I actually do a urology clinic one half-day per week (working with a urologist), and have met plenty of men who were circumcised either as late teens or adults. I have NEVER met a single patient who said that sexual pleasure was less after circumcision. It is also true, although perhaps a bit unfair for me to say, that I've had multiple patients tell me the opposite. The reason that it's unfair, of course, is that the circumcisions are often done due to disease of the foreskin.

There are lots of medical conditions which are less common in circumcised men than in uncut men. Whether the risks of routine circumcision outweigh the risks of remaining uncircumcised is certainly an issue in which reasonable people can disagree. We do not, for example, routinely remove the appendix of all children, even though it would clearly eliminate the worry of appendicitis. Of course, an appendectomy is a far riskier procedure than circumcision. That being said, anyone who argues that there is NO reason to do a circumcision in infants is either deluded or intentionally bullshitting.

 

Unicorn, your experience clearly outweighs my memory of comments from years ago. I won't make that mistake again. Other mistakes probably, but not that one. Thanks for your input, and I am very happy to learn that adult circumcision is not the sexual disappointment that I was led to believe it was.

 

--Jerry