an observation - on FLAKING, KEEPING YOUR WORD, and TRANSPARENCY...

[Dave]

since i started offering my webinar “Best Client Ever” several weeks ago, i’ve had 26 men sign up for it.

 

i have been very upfront about the $50 payment amount, the date for me to receive payment, and the logistical details with this online seminar (it takes place this monday night at 7pm.)

 

at one point, i was happily surprised to find 24 men had signed up. i’m real good at math - that meant i was going to earn $1,200 for it. not bad, except the funny thing is that if you take my rate (i charge $1,200 for an overnight... or up to 10 consecutive daytime hours), the webinar has taken up way more time than that. but no matter, i’m not really doing this for the money; my primary reason was that i had been asked so many bits of advice over the years and figured that since i teach a class on escorting, i could also teach a class on clienting, too. sure, i’d like to make some money from it, but for this first venture - well, i honestly am doing it because i want to try to help guys as they hire.

 

as of now, twelve men have paid me their $50.

- three other men have said they would pay me by now, but i havent received their payments...

- another six guys emailed me saying they had to cancel, due to their own schedules, or the fee, or no explanation at all (“i wont be doing the webinar”)...

- and five other men havent bothered to respond to my emails at all. the emails i've sent explaining the logistics of the class, requesting that they send their payment, or even asking them to let me know if they still have any interest in it.

 

 

i know that clients often speak about how escorts flake on them - and i get that. it would be frustrating to set up an appointment with an escort and then have him not show or cancel, along with getting some hard-to-believe excuse from him. clients who are able to see both sides of things will sometimes state that they know that people who hire do that sort of thing too:

 

i’ve been escorting for eight years now, so naturally i have seen clients cancel. i’ve driven to a house and knocked on it's door, only to realize i'd been given a bogus address. i’ve had the frustration of phone communications ceasing unexpectedly, just as i was about to rearrange my schedule to see someone. and i’ve shown up in leather at a hotel room door, only to later learn the guy who called me was actually seven states away from me - he was just getting off on the IDEA of me at his hotel room.

 

so yeah, there’s a shitload of flakiness in this industry. that doesn't make it alright - but that’s just what it is sometimes.

 

but hey, what if we operated in a world where escorting meant everyone really kept their words? if someone couldn’t make an appointment, they would just be direct and honest and up front, and say so. even better, they could reschedule -so the escort or client wouldn’t “really” lose out. that would be a much easier world to operate in.

and - what else? oh, i was going to talk about transparency.

heck, i’m not even going to start talking about transparency on this forum.

[Bosguy]

since i started offering my webinar “Best Client Ever” several weeks ago, i’ve had 26 men sign up for it.

 

i have been very upfront about the $50 payment amount, the date for me to receive payment, and the logistical details with this online seminar (it takes place this monday night at 7pm.)

 

at one point, i was happily surprised to find 24 men had signed up. i’m real good at math - that meant i was going to earn $1,200 for it. not bad, except the funny thing is that if you take my rate (i charge $1,200 for an overnight... or up to 10 consecutive daytime hours), the webinar has taken up way more time than that. but no matter, i’m not really doing this for the money; my primary reason was that i had been asked so many bits of advice over the years and figured that since i teach a class on escorting, i could also teach a class on clienting, too. sure, i’d like to make some money from it, but for this first venture - well, i honestly am doing it because i want to try to help guys as they hire.

 

as of now, twelve men have paid me their $50.

- three other men have said they would pay me by now, but i havent received their payments...

- another six guys emailed me saying they had to cancel, due to their own schedules, or the fee, or no explanation at all (“i wont be doing the webinar”)...

- and five other men havent bothered to respond to my emails at all. the emails i've sent explaining the logistics of the class, requesting that they send their payment, or even asking them to let me know if they still have any interest in it.

 

 

i know that clients often speak about how escorts flake on them - and i get that. it would be frustrating to set up an appointment with an escort and then have him not show or cancel, along with getting some hard-to-believe excuse from him. clients who are able to see both sides of things will sometimes state that they know that people who hire do that sort of thing too:

 

i’ve been escorting for eight years now, so naturally i have seen clients cancel. i’ve driven to a house and knocked on it's door, only to realize i'd been given a bogus address. i’ve had the frustration of phone communications ceasing unexpectedly, just as i was about to rearrange my schedule to see someone. and i’ve shown up in leather at a hotel room door, only to later learn the guy who called me was actually seven states away from me - he was just getting off on the IDEA of me at his hotel room.

 

so yeah, there’s a shitload of flakiness in this industry. that doesn't make it alright - but that’s just what it is sometimes.

 

but hey, what if we operated in a world where escorting meant everyone really kept their words? if someone couldn’t make an appointment, they would just be direct and honest and up front, and say so. even better, they could reschedule -so the escort or client wouldn’t “really” lose out. that would be a much easier world to operate in.

and - what else? oh, i was going to talk about transparency.

heck, i’m not even going to start talking about transparency on this forum.

 

Dave,

 

All I can say is I'm mortified that "clients" continue to pull this crap. Guess they don't realize that you working guys have a lot of time commitment and expenses incurred in your profession of choice.

 

I wanted so much to participate in this much needed and innovative webinar, but I knew my personal life around this timeframe was chaotic and would not commit to you when I already knew there could be a possibility of not being able to do it. But, if I had committed, I would have paid the reasonable fee immediately even if I could not participate.

 

Again, my apologies for the way guys have handled this.

 

Just remember, there are a lot of us out there who do appreciate you and your efforts

 

Boston Bill

[+ WilliamM]

since i started offering my webinar “Best Client Ever” several weeks ago, i’ve had 26 men sign up for it.

 

i have been very upfront about the $50 payment amount, the date for me to receive payment, and the logistical details with this online seminar (it takes place this monday night at 7pm.)

 

at one point, i was happily surprised to find 24 men had signed up. i’m real good at math - that meant i was going to earn $1,200 for it. not bad, except the funny thing is that if you take my rate (i charge $1,200 for an overnight... or up to 10 consecutive daytime hours), the webinar has taken up way more time than that. but no matter, i’m not really doing this for the money; my primary reason was that i had been asked so many bits of advice over the years and figured that since i teach a class on escorting, i could also teach a class on clienting, too. sure, i’d like to make some money from it, but for this first venture - well, i honestly am doing it because i want to try to help guys as they hire.

 

as of now, twelve men have paid me their $50.

 

Look at it this way: Noble idea that still may work out financially; even if no one else pays, you still have $600. Most important, by far: People always learn things they did not expect in preparing to teach a class...in your case, thinking deeply about the subject will make you an even better escort.

[leigh.bess.toad]

Dave -- how many times have you and I talked about what goes into being a good client? Too many to count, that is for sure. I'm still a relative newbie at hiring when compared to so many of the guys here. I've been hiring for a little over a year. What I've found in that time though is amazing. It really isn't hard being a good client. It really doesn't take much effort. The biggest steps are honesty, integrity, keeping your commitments. Doing those simple things alone will put someone light years ahead of most clients. Talking with your escorts: what can I do better as a client that will make it easier and more enjoyable for both of us? I've probably had similar discussions with almost every single one of my escorts. You and I talked about it at length with David-sf over lunch a few months ago. And I know I talk with other guys I know are good clients about the subject. I think I do clienting pretty well. And yet I bet there's even more I can learn, another little hint or an idea to do even better. Which is why I signed up for the webinar. And I bet that most of the guys who signed up for the webinar would already be considered good clients and are doing the webinar for the same reasons I am. The guys who could really use it may be too oblivious to know.

 

What the guys who don't do it well or right don't realize is that being a good client is, in and of itself, it's own reward. It's to my benefit to be a good client. Good clients get preferential treatment in scheduling. Escorts will go out of their way to make sure the good clients are well taken care of. Most remarkable of all, I've found that being a good client isn't so much about taking you guys on long exotic trips or weekends or even overnights. It has taken a while for that to sink in: it isn't always about the money. It's treating you fairly and honestly. It involves nothing more than the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would they do unto you."

 

It really is all so simple. Why so many men don't get that I will never understand.

[+ sf westcoaster]

OK, I am one of the individuals who expressed an interest in this seminar and I also am one of the individuals who cancelled and so informed you. I do not understand why cancelling makes me a flake, but if in your mind it does, then so-be-it. In you original posting I saw no mention of a $50 fee and therefore thought it would be free. I now realize that I made a rather foolish assumption. Bottom line, I decided that after more than five years of hiring and as I am now entering into the twilight years of hiring that I would save the $50 fee for my next hire.

[Dave]

OK, I am one of the individuals who expressed an interest in this seminar and I also am one of the individuals who cancelled and so informed you. I do not understand why cancelling makes me a flake, but if in your mind it does, then so-be-it. In you original posting I saw no mention of a $50 fee and therefore thought it would be free. I now realize that I made a rather foolish assumption. Bottom line, I decided that after more than five years of hiring and as I am now entering into the twilight years of hiring that I would save the $50 fee for my next hire.

 

no, sorry, i didnt mean to imply that those that cancelled were flakes. i was just sharing the full numbers. sorry it came across that way.

 

i will admit that i'm a bit frustrated with the guys whose payments i havent received yet... and the other guys who didn't respond to my emails at all. and yet, i'm not really losing sleep about it. i just figured i would make a post on this subject, because it really plays a huge role in the escort/client relationship.

 

in your case, you had expressed interest in the webinar on dec 31. its true that my first post about it didnt mention the fee, but that was back in early november when i just had the idea. maybe that was the post you saw that ignited your interest? although since then i think all other posts on it had stated the fee. anyway, that really doesnt matter, you are allowed to change your mind and you did so four days later. personally i was not so put out by that, although you were a bit curt in your correspondence IMO: "Dave, I will not be joining the Webinar."

 

the odd thing is, if i had known that your pulling out was because of money, i would have told you to stay in it and dont even worry about the money. i have stated before about this webinar, in emails and publicly too, "if the donation amount is a hardship for you, don't hesitate to contact me."

 

the last thing i would want is for someone to miss the webinar because of funds. so SF Westcoaster, i hope you will join us - and dont even worry about the funds. if this public offer makes it embarrassing for you to join in, know that you can log on to the webinar with any name you wish (you dont need to show up as SF Westcoaster) so no one will need to know whether you end up being there or not. i am serious, i really welcome you to it and you dont need to spend the $50 to be part of it. ok? just log on when 7pm comes (EST, on monday) and join us

 

and WilliamM, you wrote "Noble idea that still may work out financially; even if no one else pays, you still have $600. Most important, by far: People always learn things they did not expect in preparing to teach a class...in your case, thinking deeply about the subject will make you an even better escort."

 

you are right, 600 is 600. i dont want to sound like i dont appreciate that. i have taught at sex centers and sex conferences in the past, and sometimes havent earned even a buck (although i've been 'comped' with admission). money is not the end all.

 

and sure, i learned things about this in doing it - look, i have no regrets. i already think about escorting a ton. this time i learned about tech stuff, like webinars (thanks you forum readers who helped me on that subject!) nothing is for naught. i suppose i was just trying to make a point that we all should strive for good, honest, open and clear communication.

 

speaking of which, i have to get off this thing now - gotta hit my gym (shoulda been there 45 mins ago!)

[RockHard]

I thought erection photos aren't allowed here.

 

no, sorry, i didnt mean to imply that those that cancelled were flakes.

 

Not a good idea to vent here about the ups and downs of the service business if you're the one receiving payment. There are consequences to this choice and miscommunication is only the beginning.

 

Teacher's salaries are never going to compete with escort's overnight rates. Any comparison is extremely unfair, and some might say laughable.

 

Inconsiderate people exist in this world and there is nothing anyone can do about it. If you are in the service business, it is never a good idea to publicly complain about your inconsiderate customers. No one can possibly know who you are talking about and you risk every customer believing that you are talking about them. Not good.

 

Maybe it's time for all escorts to take a good course in Business 101.

[jimboivyo]

if you can't afford (or don't have the savings) to offer this kind of seminar without immediately needing the money you make from it, then maybe you should reconsider the role of educator.

 

coming here, complaining about no shows and money does nothing to make you look like someone who ought to be heading this concept up.

[MiamiLooker]

I wanted so much to participate in this much needed and innovative webinar...

 

What were you hoping to learn? Hiring an escort isn't brain surgery.

[Bosguy]

What were you hoping to learn? Hiring an escort isn't brain surgery.

 

But hiring the proper working guy to assure you both have a completely MUTUAL enjoyable time takes 2 brains!

 

Boston Bill

[Dave]

I thought erection photos aren't allowed here.

 

thanks for pointing that out. although that pic has been up for over a week now, i got a similar notice from Deej just a few minutes after your posting, Rockhard. actually, Deej's message was this:

 

You have received an infraction at Message Forum.

Reason: Posting inapproriate pictures

We don't allow photos of erections. The photo in your sig qualifies. Please remove it.

This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

 

and my response, if anyone's interested (it seems that some people on this forum might be) - - -

 

"oh sorry. didnt realize that. i’m removing it now."

[+ deej]

We thank you for your cooperation.

[Dave]

Not a good idea to vent here about the ups and downs of the service business if you're the one receiving payment. There are consequences to this choice and miscommunication is only the beginning.

 

are you saying that business people, even those that are service oriented, are not allowed to express frustration? let me be clear, many of the individuals i was talking about DIDN'T pay me. what is your point, that because i am receiving payment from some people, i shouldnt be upset that others are not paying me?

 

i find it ironic that you are saying the misunderstanding between me and the above poster was miscommunication, when my OP was about communicating in the first place. as humans, we are all misunderstood sometimes when we attempt to communicate. i was trying to emphasize how important that FIRST step is - that one must attempt to communicate (instead of ceasing communication at all). funny though, this forum has a really good way of getting escorts to say "screw it" at some point and cease communication on it altogether. i wonder why. i wonder if you have any insight to that, Rockhard?

 

Teacher's salaries are never going to compete with escort's overnight rates. Any comparison is extremely unfair, and some might say laughable.

 

some like, who? seems like you mean you. seems like them's fighting words. i don't know, i'm feeling somewhat attacked by you here. but maybe you've just somehow put me on the defensive without meaning to do so. maybe this is what makes me such a good top in bed. or a good dom in a scene. LOL.

 

Inconsiderate people exist in this world and there is nothing anyone can do about it. If you are in the service business, it is never a good idea to publicly complain about your inconsiderate customers. No one can possibly know who you are talking about and you risk every customer believing that you are talking about them. Not good.

 

not good? guess what - since i made that post, i've had FOUR of those guys contact me. that was less than, what, four hours ago? these are men that i've been trying to communicate with for a few weeks now. aside from SF Westcoaster who was public with his communication, the other three emailed me. two of these four are now joining the webinar - without any payment expected from me. one of them wrote "How very kind indeed Dave... I'll be sure to join you on Monday. I won't forget this..." another guy wrote "I'm really sorry I haven't been in recent contact... haven't kept up with my general e-mail as I should... I remain interested in your seminar offering(s) and would really love to attend if you decide to do any more such sessions in the future." although i didn't expect any of them to get in touch with me (and certainly not in that swift time period!) i am really glad they did. i got to hear from them, i heard their various reasons for holding back from the webinar, and we all gained from communicating - which was my point in the first place!

 

Maybe it's time for all escorts to take a good course in Business 101.

 

and perhaps its time to stop using absolutes like "never", "every", and "all".

 

i don't even know you Rockhard, and you don't know me, either. you have no idea what my professional background was before i chose to get into escorting - yet you are berating me, and "all" of my brothers and sisters in this industry. and why? because i made a post about my frustration with poor communication and commitment within the escort industry? apparently i have touched a nerve with you, and i'm sorry that you seem to be so angry with me.

 

i'll be truthful with you here: one way of doing good business as escorts would be for us to stay off this forum completely. escorts are fantasy to many people. and god forbid, fantasy should be anything other than laughing, smiling, and agreeable. if we put on a fake happy face, have no contrary opinion, and make people feel good on the forum, readers get one side of escorts. perhaps that's all some readers want. but i know most of my clients really like that i have more depth than that. i am fun, or kinky, or romantic, or silly, or sexual - but also always real and honest with them.

[seeker630]

What were you hoping to learn? Hiring an escort isn't brain surgery.

 

The reviews contain ample evidence that simply 'hiring' doesn't always have a satisfying outcome. I think there are things the client can do to effect a more satisfying experience, and that includes considering things from the escort's perspective.

[bigvalboy]

Dave, I for one completely agree with you and understood your frustration and concerns from the beginning. Arguing with people who do not have a clue as to your original point or situation is a complete waste of your time and energy and can be unnecessarily frustrating. Must be late in DC....I for one would call it a night and let all of this just die down.

 

I very recently entered into a verbal agreement with another person in some business dealings. When after a month it became clear that they were not holding up their end of the deal, I ended the relationship tonight via a very nice and long e-mail explaining my position. What I recieved in return was a two line e-mail that was very sarcastic. I am going to bed now, knowing that I made the correct decision. Be well my friend, BVB

[JoeyBryant]

Not a good idea to vent here about the ups and downs of the service business if you're the one receiving payment. There are consequences to this choice and miscommunication is only the beginning.

 

If you are in the service business, it is never a good idea to publicly complain about your inconsiderate customers. No one can possibly know who you are talking about and you risk every customer believing that you are talking about them. Not good.

 

Maybe it's time for all escorts to take a good course in Business 101.

 

No Business 101 class exists in any curriculum that I am aware of. 'Business' is discussed in many aspects, either as Business and Administrative Communication, Business Management, Contemporary Business, Customer Service Skills for Success; to name a few. I know because I have all 4 of those books from courses I took 2 years ago sitting on my shelf that I glance at from time to time.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with announcing such a thing on a public forum, no one's names are being called out. I think it's less confrontational than repeated emails and allows the client to come forward on their own time. And right, no one knows who is being talked about so no need to feel 'called out' or put on the spot.

 

That said, for some odd reason these past couple weeks or so there have been massive amounts of cancelled appointments on my end. Others here have mentioned the same. It's almost an everyday thing now. Broken leg earlier this week, highway closure due to snow, just every imaginable reason in the book.

 

Only reason I'm not publicly broadcasting my frustration is I doubt the perpetrators are accessing the site. I also assume it's temporary (like it better end today) and at least a couple appointments last week went thru.

 

I'm just riding this storm out, I know many people are tapped out for the holidays and just want to still have the pleasure of pretending to make an appointment. But it doesn't excuse it. I'd hate to have to take down my phone # and email and post a P.O. Box # on my ad to send booking requests LOL.

 

I'm on the edge of glory,

And I'm hanging on a moment of truth,

I'm on the edge of glory,

And I'm hanging on a moment with you,

I'm on the edge

The edge

The edge

The edge

The edge

The edge

The edge

I'm on the edge of glory

And I'm hanging on a moment with you

I'm on the edge with you!!!

[Michael Wayne]

Love all my clients and love the biz and love the GAGA lyrics!! I will say that CANCELLATIONS are way up and every escort I talk to is going crazy over this. Nothing we can do about it though and we must maintain a positive attitude and remember that it is NOT the good clients fault that there are flakes out there and gameplayers. What made me feel better after my recent thread on cancellations was when I found out that it is happening to everyone- even to the, "gods," on here. If they are cancelling on the celebrities and superstars then those of us in the next tier should not fret. It is part and parcel of the biz we signed on to............kind of like when an actor complains about the papparazi (spelling??) most of us just cringe cause normal folk would do almost anything for one day just to be in Brad pitt or angelina's shoes and just once experience what it must be like to be a real star.

[MiamiLooker]

The reviews contain ample evidence that simply 'hiring' doesn't always have a satisfying outcome. I think there are things the client can do to effect a more satisfying experience, and that includes considering things from the escort's perspective.

 

I'll bet all the reviews of the webinar will be glowing. They could probably be written today.

[RockHard]

thanks for pointing that out (erection photo). although that pic has been up for over a week now

 

A week ago I was in Paris. I saw your signature photo yesterday for the first time.

 

i got a similar notice from Deej just a few minutes after your posting

 

For the record: I do not flag posts. I never have and I never will. I enjoy erection photos, and I have no desire to moderate this board or play board nanny.

 

The second time I accidentally posted an erection photo, I was issued a "time-out." I offered a sincere apology because I had forgotten the board's policy. But that did not help. I posted my comment on this thread, hoping someone else would not experience what I had experienced.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

"oh sorry. didnt realize that. i’m removing it now."

 

Dave -- not that I didn't like the previous photo, I enjoy its replacement even more.

[seeker630]

I'll bet all the reviews of the webinar will be glowing. They could probably be written today.

 

I think it's obvious you've already made YOUR evaluation.

[instudiocity]

For the record: I do not flag posts. I never have and I never will. I enjoy erection photos, and I have no desire to moderate this board or play board nanny.

If you fail to flag a violation and the Federal authorities get in here, they will begin by giving Daddy the FullAnalInspection. He will shut down this board. So not being a rat about erections is detrimental to us all.

 

But go ahead, feel proud you aren't a RAT especially when you can no longer access our wonderful personalities... sarcasm intended.

[RockHard]

sarcasm intended.

 

That's good, because there's no way I'm going to respond to your post with any honesty. Other than to say, I would not use the term "rat." I associate that term with an ugly subculture with whom I have no association.

 

I have never been the nosy neighbor type. Unless I feel someone is enduring unwanted pain or his/her life is threatened, I'm the last person to call the authorities.

 

ps If you can't afford to pay a car tow, it would be wise not to park in a "no parking" zone, even when there's no street sign to inform you.

[RockHard]

Empowering my men.

 

are you saying that business people, even those that are service oriented, are not allowed to express frustration?

 

Every business owner in America is free to shoot himself in the foot. Freedom of expression gets more complicated in other countries. Personally, I hate to see talented, creative people I like commit unnecessary, hurtful blunders. But I can't save everyone (and most business owners can't afford my fees).

 

Every service business comes with varying degrees of frustrating side effects by default. How you handle those side effects, particularly in public, defines your level of professionalism.

 

One simple example: Restaurants with high overhead can no longer afford to leave no-show customers to chance, which is why, today, they pay someone to call you to "confirm" your reservation 24 hours in advance (even though they ask you to call, too). The cost for a confirmation service far outweighs the financial loss of relying on inconsiderate customers.

 

Still, if you cancel with just two hours notice at a 4-star restaurant, I can't imagine you will ever read about that frustration from a top professional chef or restaurant owner. The truth is, even if you cancel just minutes before, a leading professional will always thank the customer for calling and express a sincere desire to service that customer in the near future. I can assure you, in a professional service business, any discussion about customer behavior and loss of revenue will be held in private.

 

let me be clear, many of the individuals i was talking about DIDN'T pay me.

 

Negative perception does not require the transaction of money. Negative perception is the silent killer of business. Unprofessional behavior will always leave a negative impression.

 

what is your point, that because i am receiving payment from some people, i shouldnt be upset that others are not paying me?

 

My point is simple: NEVER, EVER discuss your business finances in a public forum. NEVER, EVER complain about your customer's behavior in public, even the customers who frustrate you the most and deserve chastizing. Every low-level beautician is taught this in beauty school, and I can assure you, they're not making $1200 a week, let alone $120 a day. Do you have less business acumen than a beauty school graduate?

 

If you have a legitimate question or concern about your business, a question that needs an answer or a response you can't easily find elsewhere, post your query anonymously and word it creatively. If your goal is to vent, then find a girlfriend and invite her over, but be sure to warn her about the forthcoming bitch-fest. If your goal is to remind the men who expressed an interest or made a reservation that it's time to pay up, then post the following:

 

"Gentlemen, the deadline for the $50 seminar fee is due by (insert date and time here). Together, let's remove the clothes of the "Best Client Ever," and watch me as I reveal the secrets of creating the most pleasurable escort experience. I look forward to your participation in this sexy webinar first. If you have any questions or concerns, please email me at (insert email here). Thank you for your interest. It is always my pleasure to service you."

 

i’m not really doing this for the money

 

Well, if that's absolutely the truth, then there would be no need to publicly discuss "flaky" customers who signed up but have not paid. A labor of love should illustrate love. It should not appear as some over-winded lecture on flakes, dishonest customers, silly teacher salary comparisons, and your negative opinion regarding transparency on this board that caters to and respects anonymous members.

 

as humans, we are all misunderstood sometimes when we attempt to communicate.

 

I'm sure Reed Hastings of Netflix will appreciate your sympathy. His blunders have cost his company millions. He went from most promising star business leader to the the top-10 Worst C.E.O.'s of 2011, in one very short year. I imagine he feels a lot of pain these days. Yes, humans make mistakes. The key in business is to avoid them every chance you get because they can be costly.

 

i was trying to emphasize how important that FIRST step is - that one must attempt to communicate (instead of ceasing communication at all).

 

And I offered a suggestion, a statement that actually illustrates a little love for the customers.

 

funny though, this forum has a really good way of getting escorts to say "screw it" at some point and cease communication on it altogether. i wonder why. i wonder if you have any insight to that, Rockhard?

 

There are many reasons why people and escorts say "screw it" to this board. I've written plenty on that subject through the years, with tons of insight. Testing an escort's business acumen might put some escorts on the defensive. I feel, in the company of a smart challenge, there's always something positive to learn. Hence, some escorts handle themselves quite well here.

 

i don't know, i'm feeling somewhat attacked by you here. but maybe you've just somehow put me on the defensive without meaning to do so.

 

I meant no attack. I read the post and then I commented, offering supportive criticism, nothing more. If you feel "defensive," then I say that's on you.

 

guess what - since i made that post, i've had FOUR of those guys contact me.

 

Good. But do you know at what cost? A negative impression is very difficult to measure, especially with the men who have not been with you yet and remain on the fence. All I'm saying: there is always a better way to win the majority over. The key in business is to find the appropriate way.

 

you are berating me, and "all" of my brothers and sisters in this industry.

 

And I see it as encouraging "all" escorts to stimulate your brains and improve your money-making skills.

 

apparently i have touched a nerve with you, and i'm sorry that you seem to be so angry with me.

 

Oh goodness, I haven't a speck of anger within me. Like I said earlier, I hate to see talented people I like commit unnecessary, hurtful blunders. Think of it as tough love. Try to feel my tongue sliding up your ass as I swat your butt cheek for being a bad boy.

 

one way of doing good business as escorts would be for us to stay off this forum completely.

 

For some, this is a smart choice. On the other hand: bravery, intelligence, humility, generosity, and kindness on a sexy man can be the most satisfying aphrodisiac of them all. If you've got the goods, there are plenty of readers here with money, shopping for a quality experience with a high quality guy. If you have what it takes, they will take a chance on you. If used properly, Daddy provides the best marketing tool available today.

 

escorts are fantasy to many people. and god forbid, fantasy should be anything other than laughing, smiling, and agreeable.

 

Movies with sad endings don't do well in market research. Fantasies are fake by default. The best actors always rise to the top in business. Yes, one has to be careful in the business of fantasy. But there's a boatload of opportunity out there and most escorts are drowning.

 

i am fun, or kinky, or romantic, or silly, or sexual - but also always real and honest with them.

 

All good attributes, but do you mean to say there's no room for improvement?

 

Sharing certain truths with your customers can have unintended consequences. It's OK to be friendly with all your customers but it's not OK to treat all your customers as friends. Appropriate decorum exists. Find it and use it.

 

No Business 101 class exists in any curriculum that I am aware of.

 

Business 101, in this context, is a figure of speech, perhaps a metonymy.

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Every business owner in America is free to shoot himself in the foot.....

Wow, RockHard, this is your greatest post ever. It's like the syllabus of a 5 day, $2,500 business seminar.

 

Too bad you had to get called out before you started being educational...